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Post by
madwonko
This is my feeble attempt to add a different kind of content and focus to WoW.
I love to Quest and to Raid, but I have always thought that it would be relatively painless to add a different focus to this already great game. And I am thinking of a Stock Market.
The rules thet come to my mind are the following:
A company is created when a company charter is purchased from the City Business Bureau for an amount to be determined (around 5000G)
Stock will be created to be sold to investors according to owner preferences (10000 share would set the cost of each share at 5G).
The newly created company will lease space for the operations in the city or purchase a space outside the city for construction (whenever the 'building' patch will come)
The company charter specifies the items that the company will sell and the initial sale price
The availability of products, the weekly sales and the popularity of the stock will determine, after some number crunching, next week suggested value of the company stock.
The investors will benefit from weekly returns from company dividends.
Public contracts can be recorded between companies that will allow the exchange of goods and help meet the production goals.
A BBB kind of office will track any unfulfilled contract and assess company rating.
At the end, Production + Sales + Company Rating will determine the value of the stock.
A Basic economy is already in place: wouldn't this addition make everything more deliciously complex?
Am I out of my mind?
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GenXCub
IMO...
The Auction House fills out a lot of functions of real world markets (Commodities, and in a sense currency, which most people just buy commodities, convert them to other commodities and sell them, without actually using them).
While having an actual stock market would be a great idea, the fact that people can just leave the market without consequence is kind of like playing poker with fake chips. Whereas the AH has some impact.
you know if there was a crash in the market, people who lost their ass would just leave the game.
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Post by
mindthegap5
Did you come here from eve?
It might have worked there but I just don't think it would work on WoW.
The auction house is kinda like the stock market...
This, in a way.
Post by
madwonko
The complexity of it would actually be my motivation to use it: It would be a different way to acquire monies for someone that is tired on farming or doing dailies....
Hospy, I would love to see WoW become more like EVE... It seems to me that the latest 2 patches have added just hack and slash kinda of content and not enough anything else...
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GenXCub
GenX said it perfectly: it's playing poker with fake chips and no buy in.
With nothing to lose or win you see your friendly poker game buddies make some really stupid bets they have no business making and screw up the result of a lot of hands to the point that the person making the right moves loses and that's no fun for anyone. The poor player isn't learning to play the right way and the good player is losing the game.
Well, and the idea I think I muddled up was,
The idea we expressed here is if it's a player-run market, but if it's a blizzard-run market (which would pretty much be required for some of the ideas in the OP), any loss to people due to blizzard-centric stuff would just anger people out of the game. Losses from player-centric stuff would just lead to flaming. I'm ready to start my Ponzi scheme now Mr. Madoff.
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madwonko
GenX and Montezuma, WoW economy is obviously drugged (no increased scarcity of mats, money movement with no evident life impact, and so on..). But i insist that the investment (both economic and time) necessary to 'play' the market would be high enough that only experienced players (and I believe that there is a basic correspondence between gold owned and experience) would be interested or even compelled to enter the stock game.
Obviously my idea is a basic one, with many modification needed to make it work...
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thrakx
The complexity of it would actually be my motivation to use it: It would be a different way to acquire monies for someone that is tired on farming or doing dailies....
Hospy
, I would love to see WoW become more like EVE...
It seems to me that the latest 2 patches have added just hack and slash kinda of content and not enough anything else...
yah i gotta say this is one of the worst ideas anyone has ever had.
WoW does NOT need to be EVE. If we wanted that guess what? WE WOULD GO TO EVE right?
It would take Enormous effort to program and impliment something of this magnitude that only a small percentage of the player base would even UNDERSTAND much less try to become involved with.
Last two patches added only hack n slash content? Are you upset by the catering to the casual players more? Is that it? While im not going to say im the authority on what the Percentage of Casuals to non-casuals is, i AM willing to bet Blizz is smart enought to cater to whichever group has the higher numbers, and as evidenced from at least the LAST patch i would say my opinion is that the casuals outnumber the super hardcores at this point.
WTH would they want to waste their resources making up a stock market when the idea is so fundamentally flawed in the first place?
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Squishalot
Ok, the OP's idea of the WoW stock market isn't great. I haven't played EVE, so I don't know how it works necessarily, but the key point is that it's unfeasible to expect a large group of people would want to set up trading companies in the game. (And yes, if people invest tens of thousands of gold into my shares, and I take the money, buy my epics and fold up the company, people will be unhappy.) But the principle of a stock market isn't a bad one, provided you have the right mechanism, and the motivation to participate.
Imagine each faction as a company. Take the Argent Crusade as an example.
1000 people complete an Argent Crusade daily quest each day. Upon completion, the AC receives 1 gold apiece. After 7 days, Argent Crusade will have 7000 gold.
At the end of the week, this gold will be distributed to the 'shareholders' of the Argent Crusade company.
People can trade shares of the Argent Crusade company on the stock exchange. If each share pays out 10g a week in accordance with the above example, then players can determine for themselves how much they're willing to buy/sell their shares for.
Different shares would be worth different amounts, based on estimated payouts. Argent Crusade would be worth heaps, due to the sheer number of related quests. But Valiance Expedition and Warsong Offensive would be pretty valuable too, I would imagine.
Based on rumours of new Argent Tournament dailies to be released in 3.2, you would have seen prices rise in 3.13 as people increased their expectations of how much gold they would receive each week.
This solves the problem of having players participate - essentially, by doing dailies (or quests for factions), they are participating in the 'company profit' generation process. By giving them a market, they have the opportunity to buy into such companies.
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