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This appears to be the "universal" leather Dungeon 3 set. Every type of armor has a "universal" set designed to be at least somewhat useful for all classes that can wear that type of armor; alas, this set doesn't appear to have much of a bonus for Balance or Resto druids, so only Feral druids and Rogues will be fighting over these pieces. Fortunately, the abundance of sockets will allow you to fill out your personal requirements nicely...

Комментарий от 10128

Rogues really do get 2 sets instead of one. This is clearly better for a Rogue than a Feral Druid, the stats speak for themselves.

Rogues get a lot less attack power from Strengh as we Druids do, meaning raw AP is a lot more important for them. A well-equipped 70 feral druid will roughly have 2500ap, whereas a rogue will have a hard time hitting 2000ap.

The usual attractive stats for a Feral are high strenght, high armor or high stamina. This set has none, and only carries high Agility and AP.

Of course a Feral druid would benefit from this set greatly, but leave it to the Rogue if he wants it.

Комментарий от 16211

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=27837

for the still messing Leggings.

Комментарий от 19203

Personally, I think that the set as a whole is not something that I'd use for tanking. The helm and the gloves would be a good selection, mixed in with any number of other pieces with much more armor, etc. It's simply a matter of a lack of defense and armor. Defense might be addressed by the sockets, but the armor, even with +armor enchants, won't cut it. If anything, though, get the 2-set bonus.

Комментарий от 15985

Honestly, it's just a dps set designed to work for both rogues and druids. Since rogues dps just about 100% of the time, the general consensus is that it should go to rogues first. However, if a druid wants it, there's nothing stopping them from taking it. The rogue might whine and cry but it's just loot. It's not that big of a deal imo, it will drop again.

As was pointed out earlier, there are better alternatives for tanking and the excessive amount of +hit rating. (69) and attack power make it seem to be more oriented toward rogue dps, but that comes out as 4.37 hit. Which is still reasonable for a feral druid (without any other hit gear) because of the default 5% miss rate. (I'd assume feral druids would like strength better than raw AP because of Heart of the Wild)

The set is slightly more rogue dps oriented but I wouldn't complain and whine if it went into the hands of a feral druid.

Комментарий от 6780

Feral druids will benefit from this. Don't knock agility. The dodge and crit bonus is nice for bear form. The red sockets would mostly benefit from +STR gems. Yellow would benefit more from +crit unless you are woefully behind on +hit. Blue sockets I would recommend stamina

Комментарий от 22941

rogues.... assasination set ===that=way===>

aint to shabby for a drood tankin or full feral fighters, unless u rogue want droods to start taking assasination from ya....

Комментарий от 20753

Does anyone know the proc rate on that 4 piece bonus? :)

That may be the breaker for taking this over Assassination for roguish little me. ;)

Комментарий от 19321

i started collecting my assassination set and while the bonuses are nice stat wise for a mutilate rogue this crushes the assassination set anyone who think that this is a druid only piece has never played a mutilate rogue right or at all. As for the comment of rogues whining then druids should start taking the assassination pieces well they already do. And if your in a guild that will take a kitty druid as melee dps over a rogue and give them the same priority on dps gear good game cuz either you have some shitty rogues or your not looking to progress. Put this on me a mutilate rogue and on a kitty druid and i'll show you how they cant even break within 10% of my dmg

Комментарий от 27661

What I am still having a hard time figuring out is why these pieces are in the heroic places mainly when the gear you need to complete those intstances has to be better than what you're going after. Its not fair that every other set piece of other sets drops in normal instances and the general pieces for this gear set and the spell dmg general one are in the heroics only. Id like to be using this for my DPS set as a feral druid and this makes it impossible and frustrating. As to the who rogue and feral druid fight; Im DPSing with the best rogues and i tank with the best tanks. I dont pretend that i can out DPS you but a lot of the time I do. If you have a problem with that I dont have any sympathy for your crying. I play to have fun and get better to do more. Thats it. This gear is unattainable for me with be having some of the best lvl 70 gear out side of getting the tier 4 from Karazhan. If anyones got tips on how to do the heroic intances let me know, cause i want this gear and im pissed cause its not fair.

Комментарий от 30385

this set is excellent for a combat rogue, tho seams like most (rogues) would focus on helm and chest for the hit bonus, while getting assassination gloves, shoulder and leggings.

Комментарий от 27225

Having read the first 12 or so posts, it strikes me as interesting that people are calculating the following (which is correct without talents I should say):

Bear
Str 1 pt = 2 AP
Agi does not give AP

Cat
Str 1 pt = 2 AP
Agi 1 pt = 1 AP

*However*, if you have the normal talent build, Str gives 2.4 AP per point, not 2. Very, very few bears or cats are not going to take that talent.

Комментарий от 21328

I've seen through most lvl 70 sets, and as far as I can remember, all of them have 1 meta sockets and 6 other random sockets. This has 1 meta and 11(!!!) sockets, only in 5 pieces! If you are a feral druid and see a lacking of other stats like strength and intellect, this feature may be useful to personalize your druid, adding whichever stat you find more useful. This should be implemented on epic sets too, imo.

Комментарий от 35309

There's no real reason for a rogue to acquire more than the shoulders and chest for the 2pc set bonus of 35 hit rating (absolutely godly). There are much better items that are easier to obtain for a rogue's other item slots.

Put http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24061 in your red/yellow sockets,
and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24055 in your blue sockets, and you'll be a pro.

Комментарий от 41652

Couple things many folks don't consider when deciding Str vs. AP:

- Talents
- HOTW and SOTF both improve Str, but not AP (except as granted by stats)
- Nurturing Instinct works on Str, not AP

- Buffs
- BoK improves all stats, but not AP (except as granted by stats)

Bears w/ full SOTF get 2.03 AP per Str.
Cats w/ full HOTW and SOTF get 2.43 AP per Str.

That's not to say this stuff wouldn't be /great/ to DPS in or to tank in (mmm, agi and stam), but consider your gear choices carefully before you go play your druid... If you play a cat that never shapeshifts in combat, you may need to go roll a rogue. If you play a bear that never shapeshifts in combat, you may need to go roll a warrior.

Hope this helps!

Комментарий от SaxxonPike

I'd rather have the Assassination set. That set is more geared towards rogues. This set does not have rogue-specific bonuses. Also, feral druids need some lovin'. So I'd give them this.

Комментарий от Gymnos

I wrote down two ideal comparisons of the Wastewalker and Assassination sets for myself, and decided to share it. Keep in mind; this is Rogue-based.

Assassination set:
1 meta - (24 attack power) Swift Skyfire Diamond
2 red - 2(12 attack power) Bright Blood Garnet
3 yellow - 3(3 critical strike rating & 6 attack power) Wicked Flame Spessarite
1 blue - (4 AGI & 6 STA) Shifting Nightseye
118 AGI
256 attack power
25 critical strike
39 Hit rating (2.47% more chance to hit)

Total stamina:
134
Total attack power:
444
Total critical %:
5.31%.

Wastewalker set:
1 meta - (24 attack power) Swift Skyfire Diamond
4 red - 4(12 attack power) Bright Blood Garnet
4 yellow - 4(3 critical strike rating & 6 attack power) Wicked Flame Spessarite
3 blue - 3(4 AGI & 6 STA) Shifting Nightseye
116 AGI
190 attack power
22 critical strike
88 Hit rating (including set bonus, 5.57% more chance to hit)

Total stamina:
157
Total attack power:
414
Total critical %:
7.94%

It depends what you want, I suppose. I'm going to go for this set over the Assassination set due to the extra ~3% critical, 230 extra health, and ~3% extra hit chance. A loss of 30 attack power doesn't out weight the other things for me.

Комментарий от 55924

Also dont over look that you only need 4 pieces to get the pretty handy set bonuses.

therefore you can swap one piece for another, which may be useful depending on your spec.

On my SS combat rogue, i will probarbly be taking this set without the helmet and replacing it for something better for
atk power and agility, as long as it has a meta slot ofc,that is if there is such an item :D

Комментарий от amaterasu

why would someone want to compare one set with another in its entirety. the point of a set composing of 5 pieces is that you can choose between different sets and optimize the overall effect, instead of simple-mindedly choosing one set and ignoring another.

sigh...

Комментарий от Royi

one thing i dislike, I think this is by far the hardest set to get, Rogues at least can get Ass Armor, but for feral druids, you might as well get into a kara guild and get loot from there. It will save you ALOT of time and hardship, reasons why this set sucks (in getting it, at least on my server):

4/5 pieces are from heroic dungeons
Mana Tombs is insanely hard on heroic.
No one ever wants to run Escape from Durnholde on heroic, and from what i've heard, its also insanely hard.

I know i'm a noob in many aspects, but after wasting 2 months attempting to get full Shadowcraft on my rogue a year or so back, I know the needing feeling people get. It takes over your soul and you become a warcraft drone. If you run a heroic and it drops, great! grats! But the game is meant to be fun, I never have fun running an instance 15 times in hopes that 1 item will drop :( In the BC there are many things from Rep rewards and newly crafted items that are on par with a lot of new gear.

Otherwise,

Oh, Heavy Clefthoof for Druid tanks imo. Armor, Def, + Stam are the most important things for a druid tank. (one could argue agil/dodge as well)

Комментарий от Rainfall

Summary for the set for easier planning ^^

Wastewalker Tunic
Drops from: The Blood Furnace (Heroic), Keli'dan the Breaker

Wastewalker Gloves
Drop from: The Shattered Halls (Normal & Heroic), Warchief Kargath Bladefist

Wastewalker Helm
Drops from: Old Hillsbrad Foothills (Heroic), Epoch Hunter

Wastewalker Leggings
Drop from: Mana-Tombs (Heroic), Nexus-Prince Shaffar

Wastewalker Shoulderpads
Drop from: Auchenai Crypts (Heroic), Avatar of the Martyred

Комментарий от 69531

The lack of strength on this makes it a lot less desirable for feral druids. Looks like I'm going to have to look elsewhere for a viable feral set.

/sigh

Комментарий от 11253

Wastewalker Tunic - Keli'dan the Breaker (Heroic Blood Furnace)
Wastewalker Gloves - Warchief Kargath Bloodfist (The Shattered Halls)
Wastewalker Helm - Epoch Hunter (Heroic Old Hillsbrad Foothills)
Wastewalker Leggings - Nexus Prince Shaffar (Heroic Mana-Tombs)
Wastewalker Shoulderpads - Avatar of the Martyred (Heroic Auchenai Crypts)

Комментарий от 57456

Which is better this set, or the assasination set

Комментарий от 6736

As a rogue, you really are best off getting mostly Wastewalker for raiding stats.

Wastewalker Shoulderpads
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27797
This item has hit on the shoulders while Assassination does not. Socket with hit and you have a very impressive 32 hit rating.

Wastewalker Tunic
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28264
Three yellow socket for hit rating and socket bonus. Otherwise the agility and ap on both chests is virtually identical but Wastewalker has more stamina.

Handgrips of Assassination
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27509
More hit then available through sockets on Wastewalker and significantly more AP then ungemmed Wastewalker. Even AP gemmed Wastewalker would only have 5 more ap and no hit compared to assassiantion.

Wastewalker Leggings
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27837
While the Leggings of Assassination slightly more raw stats then Wastewalker Leggings, Wastewalker has 3 gem slots. Breaking the socket bonus with 3 hit gems would net you a very impressive amount of hit. Extremely impressive leggings.

Wastewalker Helm
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28224
It has hit and the Helm of Assassination does not. Dump a hit gem in there and you have an impressive 26 hit rating for a mere 10ap difference between the two.

Wearing 4pc Wastewalker will also net you an amazing 35 hit rating and the occasional extra AP when simply attacking. It is true that Assassination does have Rogue specific bonuses, Wastewalker bonuses are simply better geared for a raiding rogue. Once mobs become immune to stuns the 2pc Assassination bonus is worthless and raiding rogues simply do not use eviscerate and envenom enough to justify wearing it over Wastewalker's attack power bonus.

Gemming entirely for hit rating and using the 22ap/speed increase meta you'll gain an extremely impressive 125 hit rating. Furthermore, since combat spec rogues need 363 hit rating, you're virtually halfway to your hit goal with only 5 pieces used. You also have 12 free slots to use and you'd need about 20 hit rating per slot to reach the hit cap. But, since all of the Wastewalker listed above drops in heroics, you'll be gaining badges to help get to that hit rating. Good luck rogues!

Комментарий от 155265

For those looking for the missing pieces that match this set, just for looks, here they are, as far as I can discern. No set bonus.

Boots of the Shifting Sands - Laj (Heroic Botanica)

Dunewind Sash - Ghaz'an (Heroic Underbog)

Forestheart Bracers - Kargath Bladefist (Heroic Shattered Halls)

Комментарий от 157111

heh Dex you must be from the Diablo days?

I knew ya meant Agility though.

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