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Чтобы получить это достижение, необходимо оставить 1-го из аддов босса, который появляется во 2-ой фазе, в живых до конца боя, и под конец, когда у ал'акира останется мало здоровья убить адда, затем босса.

Комментарий от peffik

Сейчас оставляется боссу 500-1кк хп и сносится адд последний,за то время успевают снести босса с дебаффом,без всяких бл, ачива очень легкая.

Комментарий от Fatalsub

Вторую неделю пытаемся выполнить достижение, все безрезультатно. Вот ответ Гейм-мастера на данную проблему. Судя по английским комментариям он явно что-то недоговаривает, ибо там по запросу засчитали данное достижение. Остается ждать 5.2 и надеется, что в этом обновлении это недоразумение исправят.

При всем желании, гейм-мастера не смогут Вам дать подробную информацию, что пошло не так. Критерии достижений и механизм достижений скрыт в глубинах программного кода и далеко не все критерии могут быть проверены нами. Именно по этому мы проверяем выполняемость самого достижения. Поверьте, подобных проверок было проведено великое множество и я могу Вас заверить, что достижение работает исправно. Я допускаю, что что-то могло измениться, по этому мы проведем повторную серию проверок, если что то работает не так, разработчики игры приступят к устранению неполадки. Со своей стороны желаю Вам удачи в следующей попытке выполнения достижения, надеюсь, она будет успешной.

Судя по английским комментариям, достижение в 5.2 снова работает нормально.

Комментарий от Danik007

Аналогичная ситуация. Убили босса, на нем оставалось 2 стака.
Ответ гм:

Несмотря на то, что до настоящего момента подобные проблемы не были нам известны, благодаря предоставленной Вами информации мы сможем провести соответствующее расследование и передать информацию о ситуации разработчикам. Будем надеяться, в будущем такая ситуация Вам не встретится.

Если Вам потребуется наша помощь по вопросам внутриигрового процесса, наш отдел всегда будет рад Вам помочь в рамках правил игры.

С наилучшими пожеланиями

СУдя по английским комментариям ждем 5.2

Комментарий от Czen

Сделал соло, все очень просто. ковыряем босса автоатакой до 2 фазы, на 2 фазе появляется моб, убиваем его в мили алакира, смотрим чтоб на боссе появился дебаф "ответная реакция", если дебаф есть у вас есть 25 сек чтобы убить босса, у меня ушло на это 2 абилки)))
Вервульфхант-Разувий

Комментарий от ImbaHunter

Видеогайд по достижению:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYSOBREDUZ8

Комментарий от XoJloD

Наш ответ - https://youtu.be/M_30aCHYJ5E

Комментарий от Ruberoid73

Все просто-пинаем босса автоатакими примерно до 8-7 лямов,появляется моб,его убиваем,на босса кидается баф.Пока висит баф убиваем. Ачив готов

As for how to get the actual achievement; Feedback is a stacking debuff that goes on Al'Akir when you kill the Stormling adds in phase 2. The Stormlings only spawn until he reaches 30% and the debuff only lasts 20 seconds. So to kill him while he's got the debuff on him I guess you have to keep one of them alive for all of phase 3. The adds do AoE damage which prevents them from being melee'ed so keep it tanked in the ranged camp and kill it just before the boss dies, and this achievement should be no problem.

Комментарий от 331845

The way to obtain this achievement is to ensure that you push the boss over the 25% mark while he is affected by Feedback. If Al'Akir goes into phase 3 while affected by feedback, he remains affected by it for the duration of the fight. This is why it is key to get a full stack of 8 feedbacks before pushing into phase 3. With 80% more damage taken, it will become the fastest phase in the fight.

This really is the responsibility of your Stormling tank + ranged dps to make sure the stacks stay up. If they fall off during the second phase, be prepared for a wipe.

Комментарий от 149216

Fairly easy achievement when Al'Akir's other mechanics are clear.

Leave the last Stormling alive and let the tank tank-dps it down - away from the group (while ofc dodging the clouds with
the group)
By the time our group had downed Al'Akir down to 1-2%~ the Stormling died on tank's damage. After that the group has 20 seconds to kill the boss. I did this achievement for our group without them even knowing i was at it

Комментарий от 402433

Can confirm that this strat works rather well. We just left the stormling in the raid and I bounced smite heals off it, it died at about 3%, free achievement. The damage from the add is so miniscule, and its HP pool is rather small.

Edit: This was supposed to be as a reply to Oreia, didn't work =(

Комментарий от Euphemia

Here's Flaskaholics doing the Four Play achievement. Really messy towards the end, with people dying like flies, still - the stormling went down and debuffed Al'akir just in time, but it does show how getting the achievement shouldn't cause much trouble if you only make sure not to kill the last Stormling too early.

Good luck!

Комментарий от Kazlehoff

Completed last night without even realizing it.

not a hard achievement at all for a compitient group.

Комментарий от Chiasmus

Just a heads up to anyone who is looking to complete this: last night our guild killed Al'Akir while he was affected by Feedback, but we did not receive completion credit for the achievement. We suspect this may be related to the duration of Feedback being increased to 30 seconds as of patch 4.2, and that if our kill had been within 20 seconds of Feedback (like it originally used to last) being applied, we would have been awarded credit.

Edit: Upon making a ticket, the achievement was awarded to us.

Комментарий от 828244

I actually just lol'd.

Комментарий от Heritech

This achievement currently seems bugged. A group I was in did this achievement and did not receive credit for it. Was able to speak with a GM who informed us they couldn't help because the encounter logs do not track buffs/debuffs (what?). We escalated to a supervisor and after some back and forth we used the logic of: A Stormling dies and then places a 30sec Feedback debuff on Al'Akir, You can view the log and the the time the last Stormling died you can then look at the time Al'Akir died if the time difference is less than 30 seconds the requirement is met.

The supervisor was able to confirm this and proceeded to escalate further to get the achievement awarded. Still waiting on the response from that second escalation but at least the supervisor acknowledged the requirements were met.

Комментарий от Jigs

Achievement still glitched as of today.

This is the second week I'm trying this, and I've not gotten the achievement even though Al'Akir was affected by Feedback every single time we killed him.
The first time the achievement glitched I opened a ticket stating this problem. I got an automated response saying that they can't just grant me the achievement without proof.
This week when it glitched again I opened a ticket on the website with an added screenshot of the combat log:
xx:15:26: Dies.
xx:15:29: Dies.

Basically Al'Akir died three seconds after we killed both of the Stormlings, putting Ak'Akir on two stacks of Feedback. So this was solid proof.
However, a GM told me I could have photoshopped it and therefore cannot grant me the achievement.
So I guess it's gonna be a waiting game now until they finally hotfix this..

Комментарий от Raqi

Achievement still bugged, GM said Q&A is working on it, but no Achievement.

Комментарий от 764305

attempted last night.....had been on wowhead before to double check a number of achs we where doing so was aware of this potentially not working.

had several responses from Blizz and this is latest one....confirming bug in 10 man which should be cleared in next patch

Thanks for contacting us about this.

The reason that we declined to grant you the achievement wasn't that we don't think that there's a problem with the achievement; actually we have an active bug report about this particular issue (Four Play not being granted in 10-man).

The problem is that in order to grant achievements we need to be able to verify that the criteria of the achievements are met. We're not doubting that you did so; it shouldn't be an overly challenging feat an expansion later.

However, the great challenge lies in verifying and demonstrating that the criteria were met; we're not able to do this for this particular achievement as we were not able to locate the log line detailing the death of the Stormling and therefore we can't grant it.

It's not all bad news, however. The current bug status shows that this issue is resolved in patch 5.2. While patch results are never live until they're live, we recommend that you reattempt this achievemtn following the next patch.

Комментарий от 26079

Today GM-Zolnax told me that Q&A has been "unable to replicate" this bug.

Edit: And then told me that it might be addons causing the problem. And that people can "photoshop" combat logs.

Комментарий от Jerigothiel

You can get the achievement right now, tho it's a little complicated.

It's bugged until 5.2, however I just got the achievement last night, might be that a GM will tell you he can't help 2 times but if you tell them about another time, where a GM looked into the log to determent if confirm something then they suddenly learn how to do it. :O! They do have access to a complete log of everything that happens, which means they can check when the stormling died and if that's less than 20 seconds before Al'akir then the requirements for the achievement was met and they will add the achievement to your account.
I think it took the GM 10 minutes to check it in the log, if he had not spend 6 minutes starting with "I can't" then it would have been done a lot faster. I got the same messages as you guys, "We cannot grant achievements without prof" just tell him to check the logs, which he have access to in order to find proofs. :)
I hope this will help some of you.

(You can check my armory if you doubt that I got it)

(Not sure how to make a post below so I make it here)
he told me that he couldn't at first, but I could give him an example of another GM who did such a thing for me. He could tell me what happened down to the last second. They do have access to the information needed proof that you accomplished the goal, but it's "annoying" to search the logs and add achievements to each account. Which means that if they can avoid it they will, but it's part of their job. :P

Комментарий от Fangoria

I did the achievment this week and didn't get it. I looked it up here and saw all the bugs it had. So, I had my whole group put a ticket in regarding this bug. I spoke with a GM about an hour ago and they said they now have permission from the devs to give this achievment out if you have completed it, but didn't get it. So there should be no problem getting your achievment now if it bugs out.

Hope this helps

Комментарий от pyakuz

Doesnt working on 25man either... hoever we wrote a ticket and GM response:
"That achievement is one we can verify and credit now but a while ago we didn't have approval to do that from the developers. I've verified you earned it and credited it to you now."

Комментарий от Jmech1986

Achievement works as of 5.2, just got it in 25 man.

Комментарий от Lissidragon

As of 5.2, this achievement has been fixed and is no longer bugged.

Комментарий от 909777

In 5.3 its very easy to over DPS. Take note that adds don't spawn until phase 2 and do NOT spawn in phase 3. Phase 2 starts at 80% and the stormling spawns 20 seconds - do NOT nuke him lower than 25% (35% to be safe from dots etc.) before the add spawns we did.

After the adds up you can push him over whenever (there's about 5 seconds of immunity in p2/p3 transition that you'll need to compensate for and the debuff only lasts for 30 seconds) and kill the add at any point between its spawn and before the boss dies for the achievement.

Good luck!

Комментарий от Hoboonaparkbench

Tried this achievement today after doing Stay Chill, accidentally blew him up too fast before he got Feedback. Just a bit of warning for anyone doing this to make sure you don't do too much DPS and wait a second for feedback before finishing boss off.

Комментарий от Glitterangel

Extremely easy achievement.
Completed this on my 583ilvl Fury Bloodelf warrior.
1) DPS boss till he reaches phase 2 @ 80% health that is.
2) Wait for him to spawn a small lightning add called a Stormling.
3) If lower geared preferably push boss to 40-50% keeping add alive.
4) At 40-50% Boss HP kill the add giving the boss a buff called Feedback, which lasts for 30seconds.
5) Nuke boss, note that at 30% he will shatter the platform and you will have to fly and kill him.

Extremely easy :)

Комментарий от vitor210

How to complete the achievement:

when the boss is at 80% health he starts phase 2, where you need to avoid several hurricanes, but he also spawns a little add called Stormling, and if you kill him (at 638 I 1-shot him, perhaps even at 600ilvl you can 1-shot him) the boss gets a debuff for 30seconds called "Feedback". Yh you read it right, you have 30seconds to burn the remaining 80% of the boss to get this achievement.

2 quick tips though:

1) I tried this 5minutes ago and it worked but the 1st time I killed the Stormling that spawned, for some reason the boss didnt get the debuff. Glad I was paying atention, or else I would have killed him and had to come back next week. I had to wait for another add to spawn, kill taht add and this time the boss got the debuff.

2) when phase 3 begins, the boss destroys the plataform and you fight him on the hair. Unfortunatly, during the "Rp scene" you can't atack him, so that means tecnicaly the debuff can run out before you even got a chance to finish him. I had 7seconds left when he became targetable again but alas at 638 he just stayed alive 2 more seconds :P

Комментарий от Mydge

Legion update.

Dps very slowly (weapon only).
Phase 2 begins around 80%.
Keep slowly dpsing until a stormling appears.
Run under his feet (if you arent already).
Kill stormling (one weapon hit did it).
Nuke boss.

Al'Akir was only at 50% by the time I was ready to nuke. Platform didnt shatter but was still able to fly up and got the achievement.

Комментарий от DrumD87

Four Play - https://goo.gl/YtmvMK

Комментарий от bunnyladame

Ran into an interesting bug when trying to solo H25 during Legion...

After unequipping all of my ret pally's gear I realized it was a bad idea because without a weapon I couldn't use enough of my damage-dealing abilities to DPS the boss down while Feedback was still on him to get this achievement. Whatever, no worries, I wiped in Phase 3 to try again with my weapon equipped.

On that 2nd attempt, I was still able to one-shot the Stormling, but post-wipe it would not apply Feedback to Al'Akir. I tried this with a few Stormling spawns, same thing. D'oh.

Unsure if it will happen on other raid diffs -- H25 just happened to be the one I was doing at the time -- but there you have it. Make sure you don't screw up the first attempt like I did or you're out of luck until the following week. (Submitted a bug report, we'll see if QA can reproduce/dev chooses to fix.)

Комментарий от ZeroEdgeir

Good news: With 8.0.1's item squish, it is far easier to not over-DPS him to get the buff on him.

Bad news: With 8.0.1's item squish, it is a bit more trying to put out enough DPS before the buff wears OFF (especially cause you are likely to be inactive for a few seconds while you get thrown up into the air).

Комментарий от X2GG

If you are trying to do during 8.3, remember to remove your necklace and corruption gear otherwise you are going to oneshot the boss.
I removed neck(which will also shutdown azerite traits) and all corruption gear and attacked with weapon only until add spawned. Nuked the add under the boss then nuke the boss.

Комментарий от moechaos77

Just did this as an ilvl 200 Boomkin, I just removed my weapon, melee'd boss once which got him to 65% HP, add spawned I killed it then nuked boss once he got the feedback debuff

Комментарий от xLunacyx

Hope Blizz doesn't come around and deem this achievement as Problematic

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