Уже несколько раз прошли таймран. Хочется написать несколько советов тем, кто планирует его проходит.

Часть советом очевидна, но всё же.
1) В группе крайне желателен БЛ (героизм/кровожадность/....), но не обязателен - проходили и без него. Сдаётся на Акилзоне и на Халаази.
2) Крайне желателен максимально отбафанный сетап. +Фласки/поты и прочее.
3) Зелья невидимости не помогут. На Акилзоне и Налораке необходимо убить треш до босса, чтобы вступать в бой с ним. На Джаналае разведчики палят стелс. Последник пак перед Джаналаем, если его пропустить, спулится при пуле босса. Перед халаази возможно пропустить только первый пак кошек. Стелс-паки кошек палят невидимость игроков.
4) Крайне желательно 2 рдд (а можно и всех трёх, но двух хватает).
5) Мультидотинг и меньше сбиваемого контроля. Чем больше вы контроллите - тем медленнее умирает треш. Поэтому в бою должно быть столько треш мобов, сколько способны выдержать ваши танк и хил.
6) Паки можно и не лутать - особо ценного с них ничего не падает. Пленников из клеток можно освобождать после прохождения таймрана. Необязательно делать это сразу же.
7) Старайтесь выдавать максимум дамага не срывая агро с танка. Рес игрока задерживает группу сильнее, чем меньший нанесённый урон. Если же необходимость реса встала - по возможности пусть ресает дд а хил отпивается.
8) 1 вайп - не провал, если в группе есть сс и масс рес (25-й уровень гильдии)
9) На многих перебежках целесообразно использовать маунтов.

Кратко по боссам:
1) Акилзон. Ничего сложного. Треш простой. На боссе убиваем белых ворон, сбегаемся под тучку и сливаем босса. БЛ в начале боя.

Треш-пак между Акилзоном и Налоракком быстрее обходить не по лестнице, а с левой стороны (если смотреть на Налоракка) по траве.
2) Налоракк. Треш перед ним так же не сложен. В паках по приоритету убивать целителей (и их идолы защиты и исцеления) и метателей топоров (они станят танка и за стан в танка влетает сильный дамаг от пака). На боссе 3 человека стоят в ренже. Босс чаржится в самого дальнего игрока. Если у вас 2 мдд в пати - то пусть первым дебаф получает один из мдд, чтобы потом вливаться в босса. Первые двое после получения дебаффа бегут в мили. После третьего чаржа все могут разбежаться - за фазу медведя дебафы спадут.
3) Джаналай. Трешш перед ним жестокий (особенно Разведчики и Заклинатели огня).
По пакам перед ним:
в первом "паке" один разведчик - убиваем его
затем пак 3 моба + разведчик. позади пака так же есть патрульный разведчик который может оказаться рядом.
затем пак из тролля и дракондоров. позади стоит разведчик, который "пулится" вместе с паком - его нужно оперативно застанить и убить
далее стоит одинокий разведчик и сразу за ним пак с другим разведчиком. Первый разведчик не связан с паком и может быть убит за стан/руты не спулив пак за своей спиной
после этого пака стоит обычный пак и затем сам босс.

Стоит обратить отдельное внимание на Заклинателей огня. Они бафаются очень неприятным бафом +300% хасты и 200% скорости передвижения. Если у вас в группе нет мага - их необходимо оперативно диспелить и убивать в первую очередь. Если же маг имеется, то бафф можно соспеллстились и наоборот убивать заклинателей огня последними, чтобы маг поддерживал на себе бафф. На боссе с бафом у нас маг выдал 50к дпс простым спамом пиробласта без аое по дракондорам.

Касательно боя с боссом: Пропускать одного из троллей к яйцам, убивать драконов, избегать огня и бомб.
ВНИМАНИЕ! если на момент смерти босса лежат невзорвавшиеся бомбы - НЕЛЬЗЯ выходить из зоны боя с боссом, иначе игроки попадут в ловушку и получат дебафф тикающий по 35к в секунду и убивающий их в последствии. Дождитесь взрыва бомб и затем идите дальше.

Комментарий от kolbaska

Я не в курсе знаете ли вы, но можно абузить систему случайных тролльских подземелий. За всё время после выхода 4.1 ни разу меня не подвела данная фича.

Ладно, ближе к делу:

По моей статистике один и тот же тролльский данж не может попасться снова после полного прохождения оного, но обязательно появится если вы не прошли и ливнули/разошлись .

Примеры:

Вначале бегал один; записался в рандом, прошёл ЗГ, попал в ЗА, потом ЗГ, и снова ЗА - они всегда чередуются при полном прохождении. В ЗА ради ценного опыта уходил на разных боссах: после лива и отката всегда попадал снова в ЗА, с ЗГ всё тоже самое.

Далее проверил с группой: лидер всегда определяет случайный героик в который вы попадёте. Пройдя ЗГ, я набрал пати с гильдии, мы попали в ЗА. Людей заманил "тайм-раном" и они горевали, мол, не получат 140 очков, однако были очень удивлены когда их получили! Пройдя ЗА, с пугами *ибо так можно скипнуть боссов аж до ласта, но не всегда везёт* пробежался по ЗГ (снова пользуясь исключительно поиском случайного героика). Набрал ещё разок пати на тайм-ран, и угадайте куда мы попали? Всё верно, в ЗА.

Мораль: пока можно абузить систему - абузьте. У вас есть доступ к бесконечному числу медведей для всех. Пати лидер прошёл ЗГ, набрал народ на тайм-ран. Прошли 4 босса, получили мишку, дисбанд, пересбор, лидер снова записывает всех в рандом, повторить 4 раза или сколько вам медведей надо.

Upd:
Собрали 5 человек сделали всем медведей за несколько часов, потом друзьям стали делать.

Видимо это сообщение минусуют те кто не понял или те кто не хотел делиться "секретом", ведь так можно продавать этих самых мишек.

Комментарий от 797782

Печально что это новый бронзовый дракон. Через 2-3 месяца пробежав рандом, будет:
Разыгрывается:
Предмет некому не нужен.

Комментарий от 797782

Собрал статик, за 6 ранов выбили всем пятерым мишку (да я краб и один раз сфейлили). Хоть бы другое название и модельку сделали, ведь реально через 2-3 месяца его будут получать все пуги как бронзового дрейка.

Комментарий от Sethgor

зачтется автоматом

Комментарий от Xagli

ребят.ходит слух что его уберут в патче 4.2 его хотят убрать - напишите пожалуйста,правда или нет

Комментарий от 721009

легко выбивается 5 мишек за 2,5 часа в Зул'амане

1. нужно всего лишь 5 раз подряд встать в очередь в случайное подземелье "Возрождения Зандалара" (героич)
2. убить 4 босса за 25 минут (Акил'зон, Налоракк, Джан'алай, Халаззи)
3. после убийства четвертого босса (рыси) нужно освободить заложника Кайша (находится в первой клетке сразу справа от входа. Кайша начнет бегать по комнате и разбивать кувшины. если вы успели за 25 минут, то из последнего кувшина появится Сумка Кайши и из нее выпадет 100% Аманийский боевой медведь
4. пятого (Повелитель проклятий Малакрасс) и шестого (Даакара) босса убивать не нужно. после того, как получите мишку просто вставайте опять в очередь в зулы. 100% кинет в Зуламан, потому что не был убит последний босс. и делаем тайм-ран заново.

Комментарий от 797782

Ещё можно скипнуть треш между медведем и дракондором, только если в пати есть шам или лок, нужно пробежать на маунтах в упор к лесницы дракондора, умереть. Лок или шам встают и подымают всем масс ресом.

Комментарий от Ramsharick

вопрос: Сколько голды будет стоить "заказ" мишки для пати?Ну вообщем купить его за голд?

Комментарий от win32

Покупка таймрана на РФ стоила 10к голды. Сейчас неактуально, сейчас есть хорошие шансы пройти его даже в рандоме.

Комментарий от 864235

Ничего сложного нынче в получении этого мишки нет, из-за чего он и лишился ачивки. Прошли без проблем рандомом дру-танк, я маг-аркан неодетый, хант,вар и пал-хил. Ещё 3 минуты в запасе осталось.

Итого, 3 недели как перешел на оф и уже с аманийским мишкой, о котором мечтал на личе даже на пиратке)

Комментарий от 884741

Приветствую.

Итак, если вы собрались на ТР желательно иметь следующих игроков в группе:
● Ферал друид (медведь/кот). Их способность Тревожный рев поможет выиграть время.
● Маг / Шаман / БМ Охотник. Ради их БЛ (Искажение времени/Жажда крови/Героизм/Древняя истерия)
● ДК (танк или дд) ради их способности Льдистый путь, альтернативой может послужить Левитация у пристов и Хождение по воде шаманов. Благодоря этим способностям, можно без каких либо проблем и лишней траты времени пробежать по воде озера перед последним боссом (Халаззи) на тайм ран.
● Контроль. Это не обязательно, но желательно. Лучшим вариантом будет ШП. Худшим - рога.

Треш:
Ничего особо сложного нет. Выходим из войд зон, диспелим селф баф Заклинателя огня (либо контролим его (рекомендуется делать это ШП с помощью Контроля над разумом, ибо тогда вы не потеряете лишнего времени); ломаем идолы.

Тактика по боссам описана ниже, особых замечаний или желания внести изменения нет.

P.S. Медведя можно нидить уже имея в своей коллекции(и в последующем передать), есть резон идти не одному, а с друзьями.
Никакой сложности собрать группу на тр нет. Просто поспамьте в /4 чат что собираете группу на ТР с одетым ilvl выше 360. Не забудьте чекнуть ;)
Кстати, одним из персонажей я изначально собирал группу на ТР с выкупом маунта за 1к золотых.
P.P.S. Если вы, и ваша группа имба папки, то забудьте все что вы прочли. Для вас тактика одна - пиу-пиу ататата!
P.P.P.S. Удачного стечения обстоятельств, и пусть ВКР окажется на вашей стороне :)

Комментарий от 812785

Выбил с третьего ТР. Сролил 42/38 при троих отказавшихся. Походу он уже не нужен никому.

Комментарий от Kifirok

Тоже выпал мне со второго раза.
Первый раз проиграла.
Кифи,Борейская Тундра.

Комментарий от Shushei

Достался только с 7 раза:(
Очень красивый маунт мне кажется. Всем удачи с роллом:)

Комментарий от 955213

сегодня улыбнулась удача и на первом маем удачном таймране выиграл медведа , Белем барейка

Комментарий от SaintsDemon

Маунт хорошой, но... Как Миша в мешочек поместился?

Returning as of 4.1, in the newly 85 Heroic rendition of Zul'Aman.

Бронированный ящер Раззаши and the Стремительная зульская пантера will be available from Zul'Gurub, replacing their since-removed brethren, Стремительный зульский тигр and Стремительный ящер Раззаши.

From the re-made Zul'Aman, we will once again have a crack at a Warbear, namely a remake of Аманийский боевой медведь.

I only managed to get the Raptor in old Zul'Gurub and no Warbear...I'm quite thrilled with this change.

Комментарий от 776348

It should also be noted that as of today, there is no discernible difference between the 3D models of the Battle Bear and the War Bear. This, however, is likely to be changed.

EDIT: Ohmigosh its purple

Комментарий от 236602

I'm thrilled to see this, now we all actually have a chance for the bear. Just that the old one is just going to turn out into a status symbol to say. "I've played for a long time, and I was also a accomplished raider during the Burning Crusade."

Комментарий от Philes

I'm glad they're bringing this mount back. Losing the opportunity to loot this mount forever would have been unBEARable!

Комментарий от 179481

How do we obtain it? same way?

Комментарий от 227009

We all know the red ones are faster anyways.

Комментарий от futbolaholic

Do we know If there's going to be a chest event? Or is this going to be a random drop?

Комментарий от 200272

Quoting from the end of the official content preview released today:

The Swift Zulian Panther and Armored Razzashi Raptor are obtained in Zul'Gurub, while the Amani Battle Bear can be earned by killing the first four bosses of Zul'Aman in a limited amount of time.

Also, finally a screenshot of the new bear: http://us.media4.battle.net/cms/gallery/A1869W1ZSL0L1301010282853.jpg
Looks like it's the same model, with the shoulderguards and toned down from vivid red to a more subdued green (and the trim and secondary colors adjusted to match).

Edit: From live reports, looked like the color scheme was changed since the official preview (see uploaded screenshots). I dub this new look the "Shadow Bear."

Комментарий от perculia

Completed the run with 3 minutes to spare today. Mount is more purple than previous models linked (not green at all) but has exactly the same textures as the old one (screenshots uploaded for comparison).(##RESPBREAK##)140##DELIM##perculia##DELIM##

Комментарий от 232509

The mount run works exactly as it did in TBC, in that only the bear and eagle bosses give you more time, you only need to clear the animal bosses, and only one mount will drop.

Happy farming.

Комментарий от Harson

Well, they picked Pink instead of green for this Warbear.
Very nice choice Blizzard!
/sarcasm

Комментарий от Illearth

How much time does the eagle boss give as compared to the bear boss? I know from last time i did it that it wasnt standardized, but i didn't pay enough attention.

Комментарий от 199002

the bear is easy as it was at 70, we did it with a bear tank, priest healers, hunter, ret paladin , and my (enhance shaman) skipped most the trash killed each boss didn't open chest and had 8 mins left on lynx boss and killed it and got the bear

Комментарий от 199002

also..i don't know if its intentional or not but this doesn't come with an achievement for looting i'm sure they will add one later on in game ...hopefully

Комментарий от 199002

i'll just post our strat here for anyone interested

skip the main pack from eagle and bear boss, run up to eagle kill only the caster first on each pull then keep pulling up aoe'ing everything down til you get to the top and pull the big add that stops the birds from spawning,

then pull the eagle boss blow hero,a dps will get picked up by a giant white bird (you can dps the bird if your picked up) then back to blowing up the boss should take you 1 min to kill him with hero popped

skip chest go to bear boss

pull his first set of adds and the first set of bears and aoe them down together then head up to the stairs and continue to aoe pull each pack , then when you get to the last pack next to the boss cc 1 of the adds , if its a flamecaster it will be immune to cc (idk if its a bug or a glitch or just that platform) so cc the other and burn the flame caster then pull the boss, have 3 players picked out to stand in range to lessen the bosses dmg in human form(1 at a time soon as they get the debuff)

head to dragonhawk you should have 17 mins or so left on the timer after killing the bear boss, so mass pull adds and aoe , and be sure to kill the scouts , continue to aoe pull til you get to the stairs of dragonhawk, be sure to cc the adds and kill the juggernaut first, he can be purged when he gets the earthquake buff on him which helps him die faster, kill these adds and pull the boss, blow hero again and burn him down and aoe the hatchlings that come from ignoring the hatchers in the fight, you should have about 12 mins or so left at this point.

jump down, skip the juggernaut and the healer pat that go from in front of lynx and dragonhawk area and run to the side of the stairs heading to hex lord and pull the lnyx pack, then after they are dead skip the other adds and that are avoidable and pull the add with the 2 crocks burn them down, then have your tank pull both packs of lynx mobs and pop cooldowns and aoe them down, your healer will most likely need to drink so drink fast and pull the last pack on the stairs

then lynx boss you should have 8 mins left on timer so just pull him ignore healing totem and lightning totem and just zerg him down and you got your mount and free gold on the ground, just be sure your roll hax are on and you have your brand new za bear.. hope this helps those trying to get theirs

Комментарий от sneepy

Me and my team are using group setup below:

Tank- Prot Warrior- 190k hp and about 8k DPS on bosses.
Healer- Holy Paladin- about 10k HPS on bosses.
1DPS- Survival Hunter- about 18k DPS on bosses.
2DPS- Feral Druid- about 18k DPS on bosses.
3DPS- Ench Shammy- about 17k DPS on bosses.

With last run we've got 3 mins left.

We are using "Hit and run" strategy. Once last trash mob is dying, tank is pulling another group of trash. After killing a boss, we are mounting up immediately!

Notice that your team must know tactics perfectly. Any of deaths may cause you will run out of time.

Комментарий от 64233

It probably isn't needed, but Зелье невидимости can probably be used to skip a trash pull at the beginning of the trash on Dragonhawk boss, and then again on the last pull before Lynx boss.

Комментарий от 503166

Owkeej so you say that you have 368 gear fully nuked everything and still had 1-2 minutes left?

Think you took a wrong route since we did it with a good pace many communication on ventrilo and had like 4-5 minutes left. Not really a challenge if you already did it back in TBC.

Edit:

Protection Paladin
Holy Paladin
Feral Cat
Fire Mage
Shadow Priest

Комментарий от danonek

We did mount time ryb 5 times today with 1 offspec and 2 alts.
Pala prot- alt (355)
Shaman ench- alt (357)
Pala ret-offspec (367)
Another Pala ret (366)
Pala holy (367)

Everytime we had 4 min left.

Комментарий от 39713

I have a small tip after doing the run succesfully 5 times in a row. Just before the bear boss, there will be trolls on warbears. Usually when you kill the rider, the bear will get maximum health and you have to kill that as well. Here is the trick: stun the handler when he is at roughly 40% hp and the bear won't spawn! Since there is 4 of these mobs, it will easily shave off ~30 seconds which can be vital if you are having abit of trouble.

Best of luck guys!

Комментарий от 717223

Some notes for the bear run:

Each run only gives one bear.
You need to kill the Lynx boss before the timer runs out. If the timer runs out while fighting the lynx, the captive will still die, and it will fail.

You will need to kill the four bosses (eagle, bear, dragonhawk, lynx) before the timer on top of your screen runs out.
You start off with 15 minutes, and you get another 5 minutes for killing the eagle and the bear boss, giving you a grand total of 25 minutes to do it.

If you can't manage the DPS, try bringing hex sticks with you, and go into a clean instance and unhex the frogs to get the buffs, then group queue (Note: You have to apply the buff before rejoining ZA, because the item dissappears when zoning, while the buff does not.) at ZA again. The buffs will stick with you until you die.

EDIT: Some more info

Комментарий от 818915

Did it 5 times today, wasnt that hard with a good healer.
Our composition looked like this:
Prot Warrior
Resto druid
Bm hunter- just for the hero, using it on the eagle and dragonhawk boss
MM hunter
Shadow Priest

Usualy we were engaging the last boss with 6 minutes left, cleared all the trash, most of the problems we had was the dragonhawk boss our tank and in a few runs a healer died there but we were able to do it nevertheless with the help of mass ressurection :)

Комментарий от 814081

Just did it with my guild mates with vent ofc
360 lvl item everyone

Protection paladin Me<---
Resto shaman
Combat rogue
Shadow priest
Furry warrior

We did it with 6 minutes left
Try to skip as packs and patrols u can ,pop bl/hero at 1st and 3rd bosses ,be fast on your mount ups, and also dont do any ninjapulls, cause from one simple mistake u can lose the run.

Комментарий от 200272

The posts here which happily proclaim they got their bears with X minutes left, without mentioning how geared their group was (or if they had any stacks of the LFD buff, but that's unlikely) are beyond annoying. Gear makes a difference. Please include it in your posts.

Thanks!

Комментарий от 199002

idk if my post i made earlier shows up or not but i'll do it again, most the juggernaut & healer pats are avoidable this helps you alot in the run, once you avoid the one from dragonhawk to lynx pull just the first set of lynx trash at the steps of hex lord. after they die have a shaman or if you have a dk water walk the group and run just past the hut and run straight out across the water skipping the croc pat which saves you a min of pulling and walking time, have your tank run in grab 2 packs of lynxs blow cd's and the group aoe's these down, doing this plus the water walking saves you atleast 2 mins hope this little extra bit helps you guys

Комментарий от 250447

Guide for ZA timed run

The gates open. 2 mobs appear and the one coming from the right is attackable 4 seconds earlier than the one on the left. nuke it first. Go down the stairs from the left and jump to the grass at the left. Like that u can avoid a bit better the pat. Mark the pat with a stupid mark, like star or triangle, so that it can be noticed fast. Jump up the thrash of the hawk. You pull first pair and kill the caster, repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat, killing the melee mobs with cleaves and such. Pull big fugly guy and make the birds stop spawning. Go to hawk fast (healer has to even drink when the tank is pulling stuff) and pop hero. Nuke it, stay spread 10 yards and hug at his tornado. He dies, mount up and go down. You can even jump from a part of the wall to save time. Go down to the swamp and avoid the 2 pats. Killing these 2 takes 2-3mins of your time. You don't want them

Right about now 3-4 volcanic pots are used. Pull the first thrash and aoe down, when first mobs dies the tank can pull the bear pack if the healer's mana allow it. I am not sure but i think popping mirror images causes buggs on the bear part, so save them for boss fight or use them when u reach the first mounted bears. Go to the stairs, pull, nuke/stun the medic man and kill his 40k hp totem that causes immunity asap. When 3 out of 4 are dead the tank can continue walking higher. Those are the first bear pack. Pop some soft cds or 2 min cd or less and like usual use pots to increase your dps. This after all is a dps + survival race. when they reach 35% of hp u can stun them and bugg them, so the bear isn't spawning with them (saves 1 min if you add all 4 bears). Go up and pull the mobs. After 4 seconds of pulling u can cc the medic man and the other fugly melee and kill the bears like before. (use pot!). Kill the bears, break the cc and kill the mobs too. Pull boss, make a 3 range charge share (use pot!) and kill him like that. when he is dead u hafta be swift, mount up and rush to the first scout.

Scouts are really hard to aim for, the first 2 are easy and the only hard one is the one behind the dragonhawks pack. Try to be careful with that one, since tank must pull the mobs and dps nuke the scouts down. If you have a mage in group you don't cc the casters at this thrash pack. Mages can steal a buff allowing em to move 300% speed and also increases spell haste, making em capable of literally nuking the mobs there. If no mage in group, a shaman or a priest or whoever can, must dispell. if that's not possible too u have to CC the casters as much as possible. Dispelling/stealing also applies to the mob with the earthquake buff. Moving on u nuke em like that, blah blah.

Dragonhawk boss (USE POTS FFS) and pop hero again (yeah u should have it). Kill 1 hatcher at start, let the other hatch eggs, aoe em down, avoid fires, etc etc.

Mount up and move to the west, down the swamp again. Yeah, you guessed right! You avoid the pat again! Shocked. Next to the temple stairs there is a pack of kitties, pull em and nuke em down. (yeah u just used your pot. AGAIN!). When they are dead, you click the icon of your flask and drink the water walking elixir. If you got shamy or dk u save 100g :]. Move between the temple ruins and the troll pack at your right and go near the shore. If you are lucky the croc pack isn't at the egde of their route so u can enter the water and run to the other side. Once there you activate kitties, nuke em. Once 2 are dead u activate the next pack. (used a pot and reused your flask by now). You do the first normal MB and pull the next kittie pack. 3 are dead u move on. Once that's done you wait again and heal up to full, and go for the last pack of kitties. When they are dead u pull the last mob pack. it's the hardest one imo, cause u get rather stressed with the whole situation. Nuke the two trolls down first and then the kitties.

You use pot before pullin lynx and u reuse it like you would have done in a raid (this applies to ALL bosses and packs done yet). You don't have hero, but u keep nuking the boss only. All but boss must enter the water totems for + mana if u caster or healer. When he splits you nuke the boss, not the lynx and also nuke the lightening totem. Again you pull boss out of water totem.

1 death is enough to fail this. Every second counts. You don't need to loot or free the prisoners or antihex the frogs during this. Looting wastes 1 min in total by distracting you too so you gotta be careful

That all. GL with it if you gonna try it

Qwerg

Комментарий от 825914

A New Hope for the green amani bear? :D

Posted by Zarhym:

It's purple. Yes, the one we originally previewed is a different color and we may make use of it one day. We try to get information to you as quickly as possible via content previews. The major issue we run into though, is that we're pushing for image assets and functionality information as soon as they come off the presses from our developers. So the quicker we are about getting you information, the more likely it is that something will change between the time the preview is posted, and the time the feature/content goes live. This is one of those cases and we're trying to work on ways to minimize them as much as possible.

Source: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2483738657?page=1

Комментарий от 250447

It's not the lynx giving you the mount :) it's saving all of the hostages before they are sacrifised. Lynx is just always last cause ZA was designed in such a way that it would be pointless and stupidly time consuming to go in another route other than Hawk>Bear>Dragonhawk>Lynx
Edit: This was cause of a comment that was downrated and removed questiong why not rush for the lynx and forget the rest of the bosses :<!

Комментарий от kolbaska

Random troll heroic feature. Since the start of 4.1 this feature has never diappointed me.

Here's the deal:

According to my statistics the same troll dungeon can not show up again after full clearing of it, but it definetly will show up again if you haven't cleared it or left party.

Examples:

At the begining I was alone: queued up for radmon, cleared ZG, then got ZA via random, then again ZG and again ZA, etc. - they are always changing after full crealing. Also for the experience I left ZA few times after killing few bosses: after leaving and waiting for cooldown to take off I always had ZA in my random heroic, same with ZG.

Then I tried it with group: party leader always defines which random heroic will show up. After clearing ZG I took guildmates to check it - we got ZA.

Moral of the story: use this feature till you can. You have an access to unlimited amount of bear mounts. Leader cleared ZG then took people for time run. Just kill 4 bosses, loot the bear, disband, party up again, queue for random and repeat till you collect needed amount of bears.

Good luck everyone!

Upd:
We made a party of 5 friend and in few hours gathered bears for us, then we took bears for guildmates. (it is possible to sell them via /2)

Комментарий от thxyoutoo

Video Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNcErxIBIv0

A little info on this video:
1) Travel time is sped up.
2) Combat is in real time!
3) Flasks and Potions are not used.
4) Captions and tips are inserted throughout the video.
5) This is not our fastest kill. It is perhaps our slowest kill so far!

Since 4.1 released our guild has attained about 15-18 Bears. We did not use the mass rez spell ever and only obtained our bears legit. Many videos up for this bear run possess extremely high dps, optimal group compositions, and/or non-optimal pulls and routes. I do not claim this video to be the ultimate guide. There may be more optimal ways of kill orders. However, this is what we've found to be extremely successful. This may be useless to "pro" players. However, this was made for the average player to learn how to succeed in a realistic manner.

Again, we are not running an optimal composition. We do not use Potions and Flasks. We also are not running full 372 gear. This video is a demonstration that the ZA Bear Runs are obtainable by players with moderate gear levels.

Thank you for your time and please let me know what you think.

I hope that this guide is useful to someone.

edit: updates to this guide as well as written supplementation can be found here http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/901523-4.1-Zul-Aman-Bear-Run-Video-Guide!

Комментарий от 656165

Completed this run with the following party:
- tank : prot warrior (358 iLevel)
- healer: resto shaman (358 iLevel)
- dps1: fire mage (357 iLevel)
- dps2: mm hunter (357 iLevel)
- dps3: frost dk (357 iLevel)

During all 5 runs we completed the circuit with 1 minute (on average) to spare. In one run none of us had the timer active and we didn't know how much time we had left - we still got the bear. As we missed some critical buffs (no druid or paladin in the party) we used flasks for all the runs, food buffs, drums (of the forgotten kings) and potting on bosses. Bloodlust was used on the eagle and dragonhawk bosses. To spare healer mana we CCed (poly and frost trap) on the run with the DK deathgripping mobs away from CC and the tank picking it up as soon as it landed. We used Path of Frost to skip the crocodile patrol. Hunter's misdirect allows full nuke right from the start on all packs/bosses.

Комментарий от enojy

The dragonhawk trash (on the stairs, last pull before the boss) does chain with the boss. However, we were able to skip the trash right before lynx boss with invisibility potions. Then, on a consecutive run, we used invisibility potions once more for the same pack, and it aggro'ed us.

Only two things I can think of for the invisibility potions to be successful -- one, make sure you wait two full seconds for the world to phase out before approaching the pack, and two, line yourself up between mobs prior to taking the potion, then run straight through (not sure if invisibility potions act as a stealth or as true invisibility.)

Комментарий от 790454

For anyone wondering how this works, there are 4 Scouts around the lvl, each has you killing a boss to save them. Upon being saved, they will unlock a loot chest. You have 15 mins, and the first 2 kills will add another 5. So you have 25mins total to save all 4 Scouts. This is REALLY hard. If you wipe once you can forget even saving 3, let alone 4. You need Five Star DPS to totally plow this zone to even have a chance at getting all 4. Luckily the 4th has nothing but this mount, which isn't important. Bag 3 isn't important either because there are other weapons to get. The only bag that matters is number 2.

This is the loot...
The first chest opened always has a worthless bag of coins. Blizzard knew this is the only one newbs would get, so they made it a waste of time.
Chest 2 has 1 of 8 different pieces of armor. This is the one most people will get, and as far as they will get. It's pretty easy to farm this chest. You'll have 20mins to drop the first 2 bosses to get this chest. It has a random purple in it. 1 of 8 different items.
Chest 3 has 1 of 2 different weapons, a caster dagger or a 2h.
Chest 4 has this mount, and requires saving all 4 in the timer order to acquire.

The only ideal strategy I can give is to HAAAAAAUL ASSSSS. Kill everything really $%^&ing quick, and don't die. Expect to have a trio of 20k+ DPS to even stand a chance. Most groups can barely get the first 2 before the clock is out. The rest can't even reach the third boss in time.

Комментарий от parkwaydrivelol

The timed run really isn't as difficult as people make it out to be. I've pugged this twice in a row with the same group whom I had just met in LFD. We had a Prot Warrior, Resto Druid, Ret Paladin (me) Demo Warlock and Feral druid. To show how easy it really is (not ridiculously easy but still) we had no heroism, we didn't use a single cc the entire instance, and me and the feral druid had average gear, blues and a few ZA/ZG epics. We downed Lynx with 3 minutes to spare, and I won the bear. DPS was roughly 20k per person on each boss fight. We skipped a few trash packs, but nothing gimmicky, just like every other pug group would do. The feral druid died on Jan'alai, and on Lynx trash, and again, we had no heroism.

TL;DR: Not THAT difficult in the general scheme of things. Provided you don't dawdle with freeing prisoners, and pulling unnecessary trash, It's a breeze, and you can expect to accomplish it in every ZA run you do with people who aren't braindead.

Комментарий от LSavage

Gear doesn't make a real difference, good communication and some brains that is what really counts

I won't argue that good communication and some brains are important here, but gear still plays a huge role in being able to do this.

Even if you assume that all fights can be won even in minimum level gear (ilevel 346 is required to do this instance using the LFG tool), your gear level has a massive effect on how quickly you can kill the mobs. And in this case, it isn't just about being able to defeat the mobs successfully, its about being able to defeat them quickly as well.

It doesn't matter how good a player you are, your dps will always be limited by how good your gear is. Higher dps means mobs and bosses die quicker and you spend less time in combat. If you cannot kill the mobs quickly enough, you are going to run out of time even if you never wipe.

So Fathimir's point holds true.

Комментарий от Trungalung

An arcane mage makes this run extremely easy via Spell Steal.

The Zandalari Juggernauts have a buff called Tectonic Plates which gives them a chance to apply earthquake on the ground that deals ~30k aoe damage every sec + able to crit (seem to have a base crit of 5% or less).

Any mage spec can spell steal but why arcane? The reason is because of Arcane Flows that lowers the cooldown of Invisibility and Prismatic Cloak that make it instant. You can spell steal the buff and invis away which save you time to have actually kill the trash.

Here's what I usually do. There's one juggernaut patrolling between bear and eagle wings. Steal that buff and use it to clear eagle trash. After eagle boss is dead (time warped), go back and steal it again then use it on the bear trash. Kill the bear boss then go back to the same juggernaut and steal the buff AGAIN. It will probably last for two trash pulls for dragonhawk. The last trash pull before dragonhawk boss will have a juggernaut so you don't have to run all the way back. Only downside is you have to kill it. Just make sure the juggernaut dies last so you can have a full duration buff. Use the earthquake on the dragonhawk boss and ignore all trolls. Pop mirrors when the dragonhawk hatchlings are coming out then jump around and melee everything so you have a lot of earthquakes which will probably kill them in like 3 - 4 ticks. The next juggernaut will be the one patroling between lynx and dragon hawk wings. Just steal it use it on lynx trash (will last up until the last two trash mobs if you're fast). After you kill the last trash, there will be a juggernaut to the right. Steal it and use it on the boss (time warp).

Sorry for the wall of text and bad English, but I just want to give as much details as possible. I have successfully pugged through this 3 or 4 times now with people having blues and za/zg gears with my mage in 359s gears and 372 pvp dagger and wand.

Комментарий от Daudgrim

I tested out a theory to get 5 mounts quick with my guild. You Start a ZG Run, finish that one, and then do the bear run in ZA. DON`T Finish ZA!, by that i mean don`t do anything but get the mount, then you requeue for ZA again. Since you didn`t finish ZA, you will get ZA again. Use this method and you get 5 ZA runs in a row while just having to do ZG once. Saves you a ton of time, and since it was a guild run, we all got the bear fast and easy with 8 mins left on the timer When we got to the lynx. (Out setup was, 1 dk frost, 1 survival hunter, 1 pally tank, 1 healing sham and 1 dps druid.)

Enjoy!

Комментарий от 841317

just an fyi if u have a rogue in ur group u can have them sap 1 bear thats sitting on the path to the stairs of bear boss and skip the 2 bears to save some time

Комментарий от Alterraia

I've run this in pugs various times. Kind got tired of playing on my main, but run this on my DK (who's now tanking), and my ele shaman (newest toon).

We just ran this 5 times today, and got 5 bears, on the same toons. So, here is my bear strat:

Buffs, table, everything before opening the gates. Everyone mount up inside, and start running. Have one person open the gate, then mount up quick. As soon as you can move, run down the stairs, agro the non elites and kite them to the eagle trash. Normally the first elites at the entrance will NOT agro. When you get down the first flight of stairs and take a left, go left and go over the little wall so you're on the grass, and hug the wall so you shave off a few seconds.

Sometimes, the pat will be right there, depending on how long you took to get ready before opening the door. If so, wait, but the guardians or elites, you skipped at the start, will for some reason agro and follow you. If so, just ignore them and go up the gauntlet. You can AoE them down as you go up.

Gauntlet is still the same. Kill the Wind Walker and grab the next group. Everything dies from AoE. Grab the tempest as soon as it's safe, then kill. Give healer 5 seconds to get mana, pull and burn boss.

Skip the prisoner and go to bear. Watch the pat. Jump the wall on the way down from eagle. Come around the side to get ready to pick up the first pull: 3 mobs. Tank them w/ your back to the wall so you don't get knocked back towards the pat, if it's nearby. When the last one is at 25% hp or even 50%, go to the next pull.

On a side note, I need to point out a glitch that has happened, that we've all noticed. The trash automatically will move, if you get in proximity range, and then stop. ALL dps, threat, et cetera, resets after they stop moving. They move to their spots, then pause for a second and then agro like a body pull. So dps have to watch it there. It's not the tank's fault. This is because when converting to a 5 man from a 10 man, the way the trash reacts now is weird. The bear pull is ok. The 4 pull on the stairs is immune to CC until they stop moving and engage. The mounted bear pull on the next stairs resets agro until they stop at the bottom of the stairs and then they engage. The final pull before the boss move forward a bit, I think to that turquoise pattern on the ground, stop, then engage. They are immune until they are actually chasing someone. Have to wait 2 seconds.

So, anyway, killed the bear pull. Then the 4 pull. We didn't have CC, so we just blow up the medicine man, tank has back to the stairs, bc of knock backs. Move up as last one is about to die. Have the mounted pull. Wait till they stop at the bottom of the stairs to build threat & start dps. Stun them if you can, at about 40% so they don't spawn a mount. Next pull is tricky. When I'm on my DK, or have a DK, I pop army. If I have an arcane mage, I have them use presence of mind, and then insta poli the medicine man. I go for one of the mounted trolls, and kill its bear after, then the ax thrower. Then the other mounted troll, and lastly the medicine man. In my actual bear runs, we feared the healer, then hexed him. I popped CDs as I needed them.

Kill bear, move to next.

Range kill scouts. Pulls with scouts, make sure to purge, dispell, or spellsteal the flamecasters. As a tank, I ran in on a mount, slowed w/ Avenger shield, or stunned. As a DK tank I'd grip then chains them. This pull is a hard pull, because of rend and sigils, so big heals, and even popping divine shield (if pally) to remove debuffs. I have a macro to cast it and then cancel it in a split second.

Next pull, rush in stun the scout, then aoe the rest. More than likely there will be 1 or 2 more pat scouts there. Watch out. We had one run where we had reinforcements come 3 times, and still were successful.

Range kill the lone scout, then rush in and kill and aoe down the next group, scout dies in the aoe. Remove the buff from the flamecaster.

Next pull, 3rd hardest pull on a run, we CC'd the 2 flamecasters (not always successful). Purged if we had to. I had my shaman purge the Juggernaut of the quake buff he has. I do that all the time on my ele shammy. Then kill the guardian & casters and go to boss. Hatch 1 side (to be safe). Kill adds over boss. Clean up the first set as the first set of bombs go off. Then burn boss and make the rest all come. As a pally, I popped my raid wall and a CD, and dropped conse at the bridge. Died in seconds. Burn boss. Sometimes you kill him just as he does his fire bomb thing, meaning you have to wait for the fire wall to end.

Drop down and go right against the stairs to hex lord. Watch for pat. If you have a rogue, you can sap the elder lynx and hug the wall to the right of the lynx and skip that group. With the changes to CC in 4.2, I'm sure you can do any CC and skip that pull.

Watch for the gator pat. If you have water walk, use it. If not, swim as far as u can till you are around the pat and then proceed to the stealthed cats. 1 group at a time, because they run right passed the tank, so tank needs time to get threat. As the pack is about to die, kite towards the next spot and get rid of that group. Same for the last one.

This last pull with 2 cats that stun first on agro, and 2 trolls who MC, is very hard. With a DK, you can pop army and alleviate the damage. A mage can use presence of mind and insta poli one of the trolls as they come down. In my case, 5x times, we hybernated one cat, shaman spammed hex a troll, our lock feared another troll, though only did it once out of the 5 times. Killed them one at a time. Pulled the last of the group into the boss room.

As soon as the boss drops his 1st water totem, pop lust and all CDs, burn and that was that.

Since you have to kill the last boss in ZA or ZG to be able to queue up for the other dungeon, we requeued and did it over again.

My group was:

Prot pally
Enh Shaman
Destro Lock
Boomkin
Disc Priest

Boomkin is great for using their moonlight ability that silences if mobs are in it. Works very well against flamecasters and medicinemen. No totems, and no time to buff themselves with the crazy haste buff. Also good for keeping the tamers just before Lynx boss, from casting domesticate. Any druid, roots is GREAT for those pesky scouts!

Shamans are great for dps, CC, and purge. Purge is the BEST for them. I prefer ele myself, but enh works. Can't trust mages to be quick on the spellsteal, so purge the haste buff. Purge the quake buff.

Hands down, paladins are the BEST tanks for ZA bear runs. They were in BC, they are in Cata. Raid wall, LoH, conse, salve, BoP, Divine Shield, hammer of the righteous, crusader aura, resist aura, hammer of justice, avenger's shield with glyph for dazing shield. Since lvl 70, I've mounted up, rushed in HoJ the scout, then he died quickly. Drop conse to pick up the rest of the group.

DKs are great, as tanks or dps because of deathgrip on scouts or kidnappers. Chains of ice as well is VERY handy. Army for the pulls before bear and lynx. Blood boil is great to pick up the stealth cats. Path of frost for the water part.

Rogue is nice for sapping the first bear pull and the lynx pull next to hex lord stairs.

Arcane mage for insta poli via presence of mind. If they are quick, spellsteal for flamecasters.

So, we did all this 5 times in a row, and we walked away with 5 battle bears.

Комментарий от Dradee

I'm glad I have this mount, but really, let's face it; it looks like the Amani War Bear that has been left for too long in the dishwasher.

Комментарий от 849053

i got my bear yesterday with a pug. it was a prot warrior, resto shaman, ret pally (me), arcane mage, and a lock. we got to the last boss with 3 minutes on the timer and beat him with like 20 seconds left. we used no cc and pulled as much as possible and no invisibility potion or other elixers. and the other 4 were on the same server and had some 353 gear so its possible with anything.

Комментарий от Vaev

Just got this as a resto shaman (ilvl 363) running with a low ilvl Paladin tank, a Warlock (had 2 pvp pieces on), Frost DK and a Hunter. We were ahead of schedule and almost used the LOCK SS pull through the surprise mobs of Lynx through, then mass rez from the soulstone rez... However, the tank opted out of the plan and we pulled them regular with about 5 minutes left on the timer. Tip: Don't need to wait for the healer to mana up before the actual boss encounter and keep that head on a swivel!

glhf

Комментарий от 355492

Very possible to do a bear run in a pug if people are geared enough, focused, and the tank is a good leader nonstop

Who cares if this will eventually be "the new bronze drake". The difference is this Amani Battle Bear isn't butt-ugly like the bronze drake. I have the Zulian Panther which is actually rare but the bear mount is much cooler looking

Комментарий от 722089

Had the most epic bear run with this pug tank named Fuzzybear from Arygos server.

I won the first bear and was so happy! I felt bad for the tank though cause he had lost the roll for the 4th time.
I told him if we were able to specific qeue I would have gladly gone with him so we could try again. So then it was on.

We qeued again, got ZG over with and then ran ZA again.
This time it was his turn to win-- and with that-- he did! I was so stoked for him! That was going to be his last run but we decided to go one more time so my friend could get his bear.

Finished ZG quick-- then back again in ZA.
My friend won the roll for the 3rd bear run with a roll of 13, LOL. I was so happy!
I just want to thank you one more time Fuzzybear if you ever read this. It was wonderful running with you and I really wish there were more people like you in this game. I am really happy you got your bear finally. =)

Комментарий от 136408

That is an awesome story; it is great to see more people like this in the game.. I have a counter-example of a bad tank: ME .. but wait it turns well..

Two nights ago I decide to see if I am ready to tank ZA full (I'd come in as a late tank before - no issues). Get a group, 2 guys from my server.. That's gotta be a good sign right? WRONG. I totally botched up the Eagle trash b/c I didn't realize about the guys who come running up from the bottom so I was subconsciously not looking anywhere but 'forward'.. Healer is screaming "TANK! ARE YOU F*(# BLIND! PAY $(*$(ING ATTENTION", I'm going "where are they?" in my head trying to find them.. We get them down, get the party back together.. bottom of the stairs up to boss.. same problem.. WHERE ARE THESE EXTRA MOBS COMING FROM! Healer is ripsh*tpissed at this point and I'm so flustered that with all the "gogogo" and the "kick tank after this fight" I ran in on Eagle boss too soon... not realizing the healer was outside.. valiant effort.. wiped, dropped, hung head in shame, healer PST'd to call me "Garbage" (I replied back something nasty.. got ignored)..

Tanked a ZA run about 10 minutes later.. Not the smoothest thing but no wipes, no major problems..

Still I stewed on that guy for probably 16 hours off and on.. Not in a "god that guy is terrible.. ".. What got me is he was RIGHT; my performance was utter garbage; I just don't know how it had gone so wrong. So I decided to send him an in-game mail apologizing for being rude in response to his critique b/c he WAS right after all and sent him 10gold toward repairs. We talked later yesterday and smoothed it out.. He was in a bad mood that night and felt like I wasn't paying attention, etc etc.. I apologize, he apologizes.. Now we're good.

But now the GOOD party of this.. So this morning at about 5:15 am I'm deciding "sleep or play a heroic" once I notice they reset the weekly counter.. So, still a bit nervous about it I signed up to tank, got in, warned everyone I was 'green' for ZA, got reassured healer was pro (and man was he!) and off we went.. Well from there on out it was an absolute massacre. Tanking as bear I was the low-man dps averaging out to about 13k (iLvl 366). We had some psycho DK who was pulling 22-26 constantly and the other two bounced around from 14-19k sustained.. I felt like I was hanging on by a thread but we only had one death (his fault) and he was back up before the boss was done.

I don't know how close we were but the timer seemed like it had said "1 minute left" forever.. Halazzi died with what I imagine could not have been more than 5 seconds left tops.. Battle Bear came down to 3 b/c 2 had it and I got lucky.

After Saturday, I was utterly demoralized as a tank hearing "Garbage" in my head whenever I'd go to tank anything.. Today I get to sign out on a high note with the last thing said to me about it as "You could be tanking FL".. Now I dunno about all that.. 60k dps in a 5-man makes any tanks life easier, but it was nice to hear..

So I dunno.. maybe this will serve as some 'feel good' cheesy thing to make some tank not give up hope a bit..

Комментарий от 529304

i dont hope this mount will lose its value like the bronze drake did , would be a shame really.

Комментарий от sponge

Surely, you may have won the battle, but have not won the war.

Комментарий от Goats

On my demo lock, after 4.2, it has been quite a bit easier to carry groups with high aoe dps and high single target dps thanks to certain trinkets combined with meta. I'm usually pulling anywhere from 25-35k depending on how lucky I am with rng crits on single target bosses. My gear consists of valor, daily and jp gear. A lock with raiding gear could probably pull better numbers, but good luck finding one that needs to do 5mans.

Комментарий от lxbrgs

If you have a hunter or a shammy(with reincarnation on CD) and you see your time is ending by the lynx mobs, all your group can mount, and go aggroing the mobs, and when you get at the boss room the hunter can FD or the shammy can die and use reincarnation and mass rez everybody, and there you go! you'll probably kill the boss in time and perhaps win the mount!

Ps: The hunter or shaman need to be on a lvl 25 guild, cause the shaman pobrably won't have range to rezz all of the group(And we need to save time here too), and hunter, well, they cant rezz you, unless you're his pet. lol

Комментарий от dexter98

This mount is so easy to get now. Yesterday was my first time doing ZA and our random dungeon group was able to pull it off with few minutes to spare. I was ret pally in ilvl 358 gear doing 17k - 20k dps.

Today I did it again with the pug, this time as a tank but unfortunately I lost the roll both times. Anyway, it is possible to get this mount with random dungeon finder pug, as long as people aren't stupid and doing 8k dps. It will get easier over time and by the time patch 4.3 hits, this will be the new Bronze Drake of WotLK.

Комментарий от Rtucci

Tanked for a really good pug and came about 20-30 sec from getting it. Would've had it if we all knew that we were in for a non fail pug. But it started off slower because everyone just thought it was going to be a normal run I think lol. Lock was pulling 42k dps as demo on single target lol. Oh wellz. I just hope I get it before they remove it again : /

Комментарий от Xuazvius

Just done this with 7 minutes remaining. Overall dps 82.3k

Комментарий от LeDPS

Finally , I got this sweet bear today :D

I was in a pug and this was my third time I saw this bear dropping but never really managed to get it until today , I rolled a need and I rolled a 98 :D ,

For the DPS , The highest was 24K and the lowest was 16K

Honestly saying (although I think the first one is better) the bear looks good and I'm happy to have this version :) .

Комментарий от 922173

Yay now I have two Amani bears! :D

Комментарий от mimee

With patch 4.2.3 out and everyone in DS normal gear. This run is very easy.. our healer DC and we wiped on trash and we still made it with 11min left.

Комментарий от 976829

It's good to use a Tablet at start, 10% of my dps was the bonus dps from it.

Комментарий от Wazdakka

My group was waaaaaay overgeared for this, with the lowest ilvl being over 370. However, the Amani beast-tamer (mob with the crocodiles) nearly wiped us with his mind control. I (warlock) was controlled while I had a bunch of procs, and nearly killed one of my group members, but saved them by instead aoe fearing them, and nearly pulling more mobs. So stay sharp!

Комментарий от 81052

Anyone know if it will be still available with MoP? Any Blue Posts on that?

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