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For a hunter this set gives +4.16% dodge, 135 AP and 16mana/5sec over the desolation set.

I was doing some theory crafting and this is the stats you'll gain taking this set over desolation:

+ 4.16% dodge
+ 135 AP
+ 16 mana / 5 seconds

And the stats you'll lose if you take this set over desolation:

- 0.586% crit
- 260 health
- 378 mana
- 4% chance to hit

If the set bonuses weren't hunter specific id say this is a enhancement shaman set, as a shaman would get nearly double crit % from this set than desolation as shaman get 1 crit % for every 20 agility where hunters need 40 agility. So if a shaman was wearing this the only things they'd lose would be 4% chance to hit, 260 health and 378 mana, while they would gain about 3% crit, 135 AP, 2% dodge and 16 mana/5sec. Is the 4% chance to hit worth all that for a shaman? Because of the set bonuses yes, but if the set bonuses were the same for both desolation and beast lord then i'd take beast lord on my enhance shammy and just get some good +hit rating trinkets/rings to make up for it. But then again i guess you could just make up for the losses (3% crit, 135 AP, 2% dodge and 16 mana/5sec) with trinkets n crap aswell. In which case just go with the set whose set bonuses suit you best and get trinkets to make up the slack, as both sets are pretty similar, with only 1 major difference between them, being dodge %.

Personally ill be going with the desolation set for my hunter. I can always get +AP trinkets to make up for the 135 AP i lose (i dont care about the lose of 4% dodge). But i'd take quite the effort to make up the 64 hit rating, 260 hp, 378 mana if i was to take beast lord.

Комментарий от 19607

Looking at base stats on both Desolation and Beastlord set and not worrying about which gems you get to slot into the gear, this is what I get:
Calculations are at lvl 70 are:
22 crit rating= 1% crit chance
16 hit rating= 1% hit chance
approx. 47 agi for +1% crit
13 mana per intel

*MM spec includes the talents Combat Experience, Careful Aim, and Master Marksman all completely maxed out.

Desolation: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------w/MM spec*

+1140 Hit Points (1254 w/Survivalist)
+1482 Mana --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+1626 Mana (125 int)
+237 AP +160 on chance(397) ------------------------------------------------------------------+323 AP +176(499)
+3.63% chance to crit ------------------------------------------------------------------------------+3.64% crit
+4.0% chance to hit
+0 mana/5sec (29.5 with viper)

Beast Lord: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------w/MM spec*

+880 Hit Points (968 w/ Survivalist)
+1222 Mana --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+1295 Mana (100 int)
+335 AP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+421 AP
+2.66% crit chance ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+2.71% crit
+0.0% hit chance
+16 mana/5sec (38 with viper)
+600 armor debuff on enemy chance
============================================================================================
In comparison:

Desolation --------------------------------------------------vs. ------------------------------------- Beast Lord
+260 HP (+286 HP w/Survivalist)
+260 MP (+331 MP w/MM Spec)
+62 AP on chance(+178 w/MM Spec) -----------------------------------------------------+98 AP
+.97% crit chance (+.93% w/MM Spec)
+4.0% hit chance
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+16 mana/5sec
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-600 armor debuff chance

Комментарий от 20755

Who - Where - %

Beast Lord Curiass:
Warp Splinter - The Botanica - 10.3

Beast Lord Handguards:
Warchief Kargath Bladefist - The Shattered Halls - 13.1

Beast Lord Helm:
Pathaleon the Calculator - The Mechanar - 15.7

Beast Lord Leggings:
Warlord Kalithresh - The Steamvault - 11.6

Beast Lord Mantle:
Warlord Kalithresh - The Steamvault - 9.2

Sonic Spear:
Murmur - Shadow Labyrinth - 11.1

Комментарий от 25470

I'm currently collecting this set for my 41/20 BM Hunter. Not only does it look alot better than previous Hunter sets, I'm a fan of the bonuses on this one.

Can't wait to stick a Swift Skyfire Diamond in that helm. :)

Комментарий от 25614

Hetfield - unfortunately Swift Skyfire Diamond requires two yellow gems to power it, of which Beast Lord only has capacity for one...shame really. Of course you can get a belt / boots / wrists with the socket, but to make up for the lack of +hit on the set you could try: -

Wild Stalker Boots - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27450

Rigid Dawnstone (for the single yellow socket) - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24051

Bone Chain Necklace - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27779

Ravenclaw Band - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27925

Ring of the Shadow Deeps - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27761

Icon of Unyielding Courage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28121

Hit those instances folks!

Комментарий от ezzy

You do know that you can put a gem in a different color socket, but you'll miss out on the socket bonus.

Комментарий от 29180

So, anyone know of a pair of boots that match this set?
Because I currently have 3/5 of the set and a pair of bright red/orange green quality boots (looks horrible), and am trying to figure out a pair of boots to be trying to get.

Комментарий от Johan

I'm definately going for this set for my hunter. I'm a BM/MM (42/19) specced hunter and hence, I really find the set bonuses on this set useful since I without it have 30sec cd on traps. But with 26sec cd and 20sec trap duration, I can easily keep 1 mob constantly freezed if I freeze, move and use concussive shot when he breaks free.

As for the boot request by previous poster: I've been wearing my Sky-Hunter Swift Boots (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27915) from Sethekk Halls since level 68, and besides from the nice stats they have, I've also found them to be the best matching boots in terms of looks to go with the Beast Lord set. I have yet to come across better boots after beeing 70 for a while so my guess is that I'll probably be haning on to these for a while.

Комментарий от 45262

By Siolayani 2 months ago
If your getting Beast Lord, I'd wager your a Hunter (or an opportunistic Shaman), and if your a Hunter your going to want the Sonic Spear (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27903

I've been using Terokk's Quill for a while and I am pretty pleased. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29329 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27903. It's the same dps and .2 sec faster. It doesn't have the bonus to hit rating or AP, but I think the +Agi makes up for that.

Комментарий от evein

So, heres my plan..... neither of the sets have a very good 4 piece bonus, but both of the 2 piece bonuses are awesome. so, that leads to: BL chest and legs+deso gloves and shoulders=i think the best set here. alot of ap, +hit, +crit, mana regen and of course the bonuses!

Комментарий от 46112

Knocking off 600 armor is the same as knocking off ~4% damage reduction.

Комментарий от Shada

If you're a hunter, you're not going to be taking melee hits all that often, certainly not often enough that 600 Armor less will make as much of a difference as it would to, say, an Enhancement Shaman. Hunters can kite for a reason, and if you're PvP where melee hits are more of a possibility, you'll have your PvP/Arena set anyway.

Armor rating is a secondary consideration *at best* for hunters.

Комментарий от 60888

This is probably going to get me called an idiot by somebody but as a BM hunter I'm looking to split my set bonuses between Beast Lord Armor and Desolation Battlegear (http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=660 the enhance shammy set). My reason for not going for the 4-piece bonus here is that 1) I am a ways away from being hit-capped and so the Desolation bonus is very tempting and 2) 600 armor is not a terribly sizeable chunk on a lvl 70+ trash mob. Yes, the debuff lasts a while, but I am still liking the +hit on Desolation.

I'm hoping for legs and shoulders from Deso and the gloves for Beast Lord (currently have chest, legs and shoudlers of Beast Lord, kind of a shame). Filling out my head slot with a Storm Helm (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23534) and I figure I'm set for a while as far as PvE goes.

Комментарий от ZombiePope

Chest: Botanica, Warp Splinter (Last Boss)
Hands: Shattered Halls, Warchief Kargath Bladefist (Last Boss)
Head: Mechanar, Pathaleon the Calculator (Last Boss)
Legs: Steamvault, Warlord Kalithresh (Last Boss)
Shoulder: Steamvault, Warlord Kalithresh (Last Boss)

Комментарий от 73219

I did some math.

Beast Lord helm & http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27430
(gems are http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23100 , http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31862 , and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31864 )

56 AGI
49 STAM
35 INT
108 straight AP
7 Mp5
3 hit rating

Beast Lord legs & http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31106
(gems are 3 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23104 )

61 AGI
49 STAM
27 INT
128 straight AP
11 Mp5
9 crit rating

Assume you have the beast lord gloves, chest, and shoulders and you have the 4 piece set bonus either way. Personally, I would use the BL legs and stalker's helm, but maybe I'm using the wrong gems.

Insight, please.

Комментарий от Xodiv

The 4-piece bonus is very very good for BM hunters; good enough to consider keeping 4 pieces past Karazhan.

Fully sundered, most bosses have 20-25% mitigation from armor, which means 3000-4000 armor. Ignoring 600 of that gives you a 2.5-3% DPS increase on every shot except Arcane, which scales with your other gear.

Комментарий от 92812

ok i see alot of numbers and about 10 people saying they like bla for bla bla reason but very little of it means any thing to me can some one just be blunt and say <set > is best for <spec> i am one of few survival hunters on my relm and so its hard for me to get advise from others most dont even know what a survival spec is let alone know any thing about them so plz some one tell me wich one i should pick and not just throw a crap load of #s on the screen

Комментарий от 105071

hey, can someone please submit a screenie of a male wearing this set please? preferably an orc

Комментарий от 95570

well..... iam using 4 pieces set bonus and debuff on armour whit Warr tank is like ur fighting naked boss. also trinket (Icon of Unyielding Courage) and just sit back and auto shoot him down :D

42/19/0

iam not taking it off untill i have 5/5 t4 set.

Комментарий от 151059

This set also drops on heroic mode? And if so does it have a higher drop rate on heroic?

Комментарий от 151753

Shamans: Don't be afraid to roll on this gear, even if you've got a Hunter in the group. The stats on these pieces are equally as good for Enhancement Shamans as they are Hunters. I had a Hunter freak out on me not too long ago for rolling on a piece of this, despite the fact that he was wearing two pieces of Desolation gear. It's certainly not fair that Hunters expect to get two gear sets, and Shamans get left out in the cold..

Maybe if Bliz would start putting Strength instead of AP on some pieces of mail gear, we wouldn't have these problems..

Комментарий от 137982

The maximum for trapping players is only ten seconds? I cant believe how retarded blizzard is for everything PVP. I waste talents by putting it into improved traps, only to have it have no effect on enemy players?
It seems like just to help people who cant effectively PVP blizzard throws in these trinkets that remove things with the simple click of a button, making it utterly pointless for you to put in the effort to calculate where your foe might move, and entrap him. Everything just a 'Hah, I win!' button.

Комментарий от 156334

I think the latest patch in which Kill Command was changed has introduced a bug in this armour set. I no longer seem to be receiving the armour ignore buff when I use the new Kill Command with my set 4 Beast Lord.

Shall update after reporting bug :P

Комментарий от 998897

Some nice alt helms if you wanna let your hair down:
Полный шлем Зловещего Плавника Same model as Шлем Камня Скверны
Повязка героя
Шлем трясинника

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