По вовхеду шанс 25%, а на деле 1 к 25.
Учесть ещё что шанс Эликсир древнего знания 30% - получаем один заветный флакончик на 75 рарников.
За то время, что тратится на его получение, можно спокойно самостоятельно прокачать персонажей и при этом намного быстрее.
Не завидую только тем кто делает достижение А сумка могла бы быть и побольше . И подозреваю, что во флаконе находятся слёзы тех, кто так и не смог его выбить

Комментарий от Nemodamned

убил рарника и выпала сумка в ней флакончик! )))) так что шанс еще есть! )))

Комментарий от Valkyrrian

8 раров убил - нет сумки.

Комментарий от ahimas

Она вообще в новом патче падает?
Убил около 70 рарников и ни одной сумки

Комментарий от sczappp

Убил около 60-90 рарников за все время (не считал). Выпали 5 сумок и с каждой по фласке. Бил Аогексона и Гагрога.

Комментарий от DesBR

41 килл Гагрога - 1 сумка... 15%?.. не похоже.

Комментарий от BomBom1488

Пфф..Сначала за 150мобов примерно выбил 7-10 сумок , из них 2 зелья всего) Сейчас 140+мобов , сумки нету(

Комментарий от 1601080

Сумка дропается. Я не любитель фармить репу с археологами хитрой шестеренки, но с раров таки 10-15 выпала сумка. Флакона нет, но куча древесины. Это большой плюс, т.к. одна доска стоит 95 голд, а дропнуться может и 5 сразу. Так что, если нужна голд, лучше фармить именно на рарах. Так же, если их нет, попрыгайте по серверам с помощью поиска группы. Например, чел ищет пати на казака. Вы с Борейской тунды, а он с ревущего фьорда. Если вы присоединитесь к нему, то вы попадете на ревущий фьорд. Там наверняка будет этот рар. Если нет-не огорчайтесь, попробуйте поискать на других серверах.

Комментарий от LeoSDruiD

похоже дроп сумки очень сильно понерфили, убил 12 раз и упала только 1 сумка, конечно эликсира в не выпало

Комментарий от madshadow

Итак начнем с самого главного - это респ рарников.
Увы но побегать по одному маршруту не получится ибо у всех раров разное время респа.
Самые шустрые это Злобнорог и Гнусокоготь ~ 33 минуты.
-Бергруу - 45 минут.
-Аогексон ~ 50 минут.
-Му' Гра - 45 минут
-Тек'Гок - ровно 60 минут.

-Время респа остальных рарников засечь не смог в силу обстоятельств. Но в целом идея ясна.

-Далее шанс дропа сумки. Убито 48 рарников. Выпала 1 сумка (шанс явно не 12% или я просто неудачник). Зелья конечно же в ней не оказалось...

-С учетом того что рарники не будут ждать вас с распростертыми объятиями, а скорее всего будут убиты вашими конкурентами раньше Вас, считаю эту затею провальной.

-Фармил их в 5 утра и конкурентов хватало. Что там происходит днем или вечером я даже выяснять не собираюсь. Скорее всего просто кошмар...

Ну и на паследок. Пока я занимался этой дичью мой друг поднял твинком кучу лвлов и знатно поржал на до мной.

Делайте выводы и удачи всем котятки :)

Комментарий от funtikBel

Кто может подсказать, убрали таки банки на эксп из сумок в 7.3.5 или нет. 70+ рарников, 4 сумки, банок 0. Надежда всё ещё присутствует, очень уж упростила бы она кач в нынешних реалиях=)

Opened 2 of these yesterday and both contained an Elixir of Ancient Knowledge, one of them also had a Warped Warning Sign in.

So I'm assuming it contains old rare items? Sadly I couldn't check to see if it gained credit for the Bigger Bag achievement because I already had it, but it would make sense to count as blizzard would probably rather have us in Draenor than farming Timeless Isle forever

Комментарий от Rifkin11

I looted one of these from Злобнорог and it yielded Замысловатая древесина x4 and a Старый предупредительный знак

Комментарий от BobNintendo

it seems that these are a guaranteed drop from your first kill of each nagrand rare, and afterwards they will never drop again.

Комментарий от 1127473

Pretty sure the droprate of these got nerfed this morning.
Killed ~20 rares and have gotten one bag. Others have complained about not getting any, and usually only 1 person in a 20 or 30 man group will get a bag

Комментарий от ajhuah

Hotfixed and nerfed to the bottom of the abyss.... Will MAYBE drop 1/10 kills and will almost NEVER drop the elixir now.

Комментарий от haschtomten

Have these been removed? Been farming with 2 friends for 3 days straight and none of us have seen one so far, before we got one every 3rd rare or something.

Комментарий от 1433786

Not worth going for anymore unless you need the rep. I've farmed these beasts for the past 2 days, got one bag with no elixir. It's honestly faster to lvl a character on your own then to farm for this.

Комментарий от Furrybites

Just got done farming for one of the bags, killed 20 mobs with on average 4-5 people per mob. I was the only one who got a bag out of all of them, I'm betting the drop chance is somewhere down below 10% now. The exp pot was in that one bag though, so I can't tell if I'm lucky or if they didn't nerf the actual drop chances inside the bag.

If you're looking to farm rep or bags, our fastest path seemed to be starting at bergruu, clearing to direhoof, running up for aog and gagrog and then looping down towards Vileclaw. Unless Thek'talon is the last one alive, don't waste time looking for him, he'll show up eventually. We did it late night, and with no competition for the rares there was actually no wait time between respawns running back from vileclaw to berg. Best of luck.

Комментарий от 1388992

is it possible that the droprate got buffed again? only killed rares before the nerf and now after months, i killed about 13 while farming elite beasts and got 2 bags with 2 potions.

please confirm or help with finding evidence about buff or just luck.

Комментарий от Esploratore

I have an issue which I'm pretty sure is not common, so I'm asking if anyone has this too, should be pretty rare if I'm not the only one: I am now unable to see the skull icon on the minimap which helps detect these rares, which is really annoying especially for thek'talon and bergruu because they patrol.

Back in december I was able to see it, also note that I can see the skulls on mop rares just fine, on apexis rares just fine, and on draenor quick respawn rares just fine, even mount rares on draenor, just not on these 9 rep rares.

Any idea what to do to fix? Tried already deleting cache, wtf and interface folders.

And about the drop rate, I agree, it's nerfed: despite my issue with skull mark I killed 9 of them now in 30 mins solo and none dropped a single bag, pretty sure I was getting 1 every 2-3 back when I farmed rep in december.

Комментарий от 352455

You're better off farming Krol by using LFG to server hop around 3am.
Drop rates have slumped. These are my results after 81 kills.
Mainly did Xelganak @ 32 kills and Aoegexon @ 42
3 bags: Warped Warning Sign, 12 complicated wood, FINALLY a potion.
http://puu.sh/gKyf0/1612b09b9f.jpg

Комментарий от froznwaffles

I killed 69 Nagrand elites today multiboxing five hunters, so 345 loots.

Results were 17 bags and 4 xp elixirs.

Комментарий от Elaylda

If anyone is new to this thread or unaware of the real drop rate, as the presented drop rate here is wrong from my data. I can only provide anyone with an average of my data. I spent all weekend killing 100 of the rares and got only three bags so just going from that alone you have a 3% drop rate from the rare. I did not take into account the drop rate on different qualifying rares. I'm not saying this data is official but this is from my experience only

Комментарий от 1507126

If anyone is thinking about farming this the drop rate is around 1-2% now from my experience. Have killed about 130 and gotten two bags, no XP pots.

Комментарий от clear3

After 1 hour of farming Gagrog the Brutal and 24 kills later, got 2 bags. Neither had potions in them. I would say if your farming the potion, don't bother, you may or may not get lucky and get one, but the time would be better spent on just putting regular leveling into your alt. Let me know if you have better luck on a different mob.

Комментарий от sibilant

My friend goes and farms this rares if he is bored. He ALWAYS gets a potion whenever a bag drops. Ofcourse the bag drops very rarely, but whenever it drops it contains an elixir. I've tried my luck now, killed 7 rares, got 1 bag and it contained a potion. Going forward until the next bag.

Комментарий от Akribos

After the nerf its almost pointless to farm these unless you're extremely lucky, I'm currently 234 kills in, 76 Xelganak, 81 Vileclaw, 36 Mu'gra, 41 Aogexon, 1581 Gorian Artifact Fragments, and I've only gotten 3 bags. 0 of which that contained the elixir.

It speeds up kills a lot if you rotate between Vileclaw and Xelganak while using the Cross Realm Assist addon, and occasionally pulling a second non-elite mob (to stay in combat) so you stay on the realm you're on when you get the kill. GL

Комментарий от Warbalz

Well guys i just want to share my experience of grinding this bag for the elixir of ancient knowledge.. I've killed enough rares to raise 3 of my characters' repu to Exalted (I dont know the exact number) in Nagrand so far, and i havent seen a single bag.. Meanwhile my brother who sometimes joined me, killed around 40 rares, got 4 bags and 1 elixirs. I dont know if this info helps, but im not too lucky with the bags as it seems.

UPDATE:
After a long run and farming today i finally got my first bag out of Gagrog the brutal.
Here's today loots for me:

http://imgur.com/JbvRxFb

43 kills 1 bag 0 elixirs.

Комментарий от tulipzp

Yea, if i were you, i would doubt that 13%.
75 rares, one bag, no elixir
My guess would be that these numbers just slowly crawl down from some_time_ago_50% towards nowadays reality.

Комментарий от Cellatha

Thought I would aid to this comment section with my recent findings on the loot in this nasty bag as of the latest patch 6.2.4.
After counting all the purple reputation items in bags I counted 81 rare kills which yielded this loot:

Roughly 1 in 20 rare kills gave me a bag. Only found 1 potion from the 4 bags. Hope you find this information helpful, good luck!

Комментарий от 1260961

For those of you who want to farm this, despite the bad drop rate post-nerf I'd suggest using Cross Realm Assist and farming the wasp, Xelganak, as he has the lowest health total at 1,957,080 (others go mid 2m or even above 3m). With under 700 iLevel Enhancement I could kill him in a little over a minute (1m10s, +/- 10s) and find another realm with him up in about 15s average.

For my results, I gave up rather quickly though. Farmed for 15m and got 12 kills, no bags.

Комментарий от Nativ

I was farming the bag today with a couple guildies and one of them got the bag 3 times out of 5 kills and each time it contained the elixir. Absolutely astonishing luck.

Комментарий от Koolaider

It's a relatively small sample size, but out of 100 kills during 6.2.3, I looted three bags, two of which contained the potion. As others have said, crossrealm will help you tremendously.

Комментарий от Neriand

11-15% Drop chance my ass, just killed 63 of them - 0 Bags.

Комментарий от Oneoflethal

Today I killed Xelganak 30times - 2bags and 1 elixir...
I should've farm these more, back when droprate wasn't ^&*!ty like now.

Комментарий от Fuseymore

does this even exist anymore?.... ive killed 100 and gotten 0 bags

Комментарий от Jmvcyber

Farmed 39 rare mobs in just about 3 hours straight without realm jumping/hopping. Got 1 bag and therefor 1 elixir...

Комментарий от azteh

Have spent the last 3 days farming this. I have spent a total of about 10-18 hours farming rares in nagrand. After 150 kills I gave up. Here are my findings.

1st bag - 20 kills - 1 Warped Warning Sign and some Complicated Wood.
2nd bag - 98 kills - Some Complicated Wood.
3rd bag - 121 kills - Some Complicated Wood.
4th bag - 134 kills - 1 Warped Warning Sign and some Complicated Wood.
5th bag - 150 kills - 1 Warped Warning Sign and some Complicated Wood.

Out of 150 kills I have gotten 0 Elixir of Ancient Knowledge. This might be RNG screwing with me, however I would not say this is a "worthy of your time" farming method. I could have leveled my alt from 1 to 85 in the time I have spent farming.

Комментарий от t81shop

I have killed nearly 30 of these by myself, and none of the kills have contained the Partially-Digested Bag.

Комментарий от Coffinboffin

Thought I'd add an update as of 7.0, for anyone who's still after these. Over the past 3 days, I've killed 22 of these rares, got 3 bags and 0 potions. The overall drop-rate from the rares as a group is around 1 in 8, so that ties in with my recent experience. The potion's just over one in 3. Bottom line is it's just RNG and killing x amount doesn't guarantee anything. Just a case of killing away and keeping your fingers crossed :)

Комментарий от Blaen

As of 7.2 I've started farming these for the first time. I've just killed my 300th spawn tonight and in that time I have had 7 bags, 0 elixirs. I'm not certain that the 30% containment within bags is still accurate, or perhaps I have just had some really bad RNG. Will update when I finally get the elixir I need.

Update today, just killed my 464th rare and it dropped my 11th bag, still no elixirs. Seems to me the drop rate is around 2.5% now for bags, certainly not close to 10%.

510th kill dropped my 13th bag, still no elixir, does it still exist?

553rd, 14th bag <sigh>

Stopped farming at 600 kills. I got 15 bags in that time, so a 2.5% drop rate seems accurate. Zero elixirs though, talking to other players in Nagrand and those killing Krol, not one person has had an elixir since Legion. My advice is don't bother, I strongly suspect the elixir is no longer available after Legion.

Комментарий от Silin093

/way 34.6, 51.0 Mug'Ra
/way 48.2, 28.6 Gagrog
/way 60.4, 38.6 Direhoof
/way 64.6, 34.4 Dekorhan
/way 65.4, 22.5 Bergruu
/way 41.6, 45.0 Xelganak
/way 37.6, 39.0 Vileclaw
/way 51.6, 16.0 Aogexen

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