well, I found this enchant to be a bad one for pvp/pve mostly because stamina is a cheap stat (the gem rate value is 12 stamina=9spd/8int/8agi/16ap/8DR) so basicly, the 12in is better for casters for pvp(if your oom your as dead as your with 0hp) 12str for warriors and 24ap for rogues/hunters is better too. for tanking I would take the 12DR and for pve casters I would go for the 15 spelldamge
all give you much more expensive stats then stamina in less cost (all but the spelldamge, but pve costs lots of gold)

Комментарий от curley

Although the stats are undercosted as compared to an enchant like spellpower, the stats arent linear. For example, the higher stamina you get, the harder it is to get more. 8000 - 10000 may be easy but 10000 - 12000 would be much more difficult. The level of gear the player is using also has to be taken into account. The balance of stats has to be taken into account. To say that X Y and Z enchant is better is a falacy since you cannot say with 100% certainty that the enchant you use will be best for everyone.

From my perspective as a mage the 2 premier stats in pvp are Resilience and Stamina. Spell damage and intellect are more easily picked up on other slots at a much lower cost and are valued less to me as compared to survival tools. As I stated above stamina is harder to get at higher levels so in my pvp bracers I tend to run the hybrid steady talasite and the 12stam enchant.

Комментарий от clavarnway

Can we please move discussion for the Enchant away from this thread. This is for discussion of the Formula to learn the Enchant...some actually want to come here to see how often it drops in practice, since drop rates on these types of items are skewed on Wowhead.

Комментарий от 100775

is it better to put this enchant or the enchant that gives bonus healing for pvp resto druid?

Комментарий от 131642

Dropped for me in SV normal, had 3 other enchanters in my party, luckly I won it :P

Комментарий от baconbaconbacon

you can be lvl 1 if u want (in enchanting) it drops if you got the profession.

Комментарий от 85074

Drop rate on this formula his horrible, ive been using 3 accounts to solo farm for it, only killing first 3 packs, then only pulling those with a orcale in them, one of the chars went from friendly to exalted and it still hasn't dropped for me :/

Комментарий от 266788

Does it only drop in heroic or normal as well? wowhead is only showing it in heroic..

Комментарий от 171419

Just dropped for me in Heroic SV. I had to kill 5 Oracles before it popped, so don't despair if the first few kills don't pay out — the drop rate is high in Heroic, but not guaranteed.

Комментарий от 237003

i dont know if you guys have friends or family who work for blizz. but i´ve cleared the front room at least 10 times and no recipe. if there are oracles anywhere else in the instance, i wouldnt know, wowhead doesnt show where mobs in instances are on any instance maps. and nobody on this page or the page for the npc has commented on their exact whereabouts.

edit: i just got it , took over 15 clears of the front room. at least i got some armaments and a lot of greens. cloth classes are obviously have a big disadvantage when it comes to farming heroics, PW:shield is gone after 1 hit and after that 2k+ hits. so farming hc´s is out of the question. really unfair, especially considering that prot pala´s can solo farm the battered hilt.

Комментарий от ToviValdora

Just solo'd (80 Shadow Priest) both of the Fortitude patterns (boots/bracer.) Both dropped first run on Normal Mode.

Комментарий от 241082

I would suggest farming this pattern on Heroic. Like most patterns that can be farmed from TBC instances, it dropped off the second (Oracle) kill for me. Happy hunting.

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