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I can only hope the sets will be upgradeable as the specialization blacksmithing weapons are. But if they are, the following upgrades better have a different set bonus than merely increasing spell hit rating by 48 and 72.

Also, a vest is funny looking on casters. We've grown used to seeing ourselves in robes. Have 2 patterns with the same stats? :)

Комментарий от zhek

Quite a number of tailoring items have vest forms, so it's not terribly unique there. On the high end (raiding, etc.), it definitely tends towards robes for casters, but tailoring has quite a few examples.

The specialized weapons I think are kind of on another tier entirely. If you look at the materials they require (particularly after you start upgrading them) then they definitely look more exclusive then these do, where the mats could be soloed. My impression so far is that by the time the high end crafting weapons are being made there'll be raiding weapons that surpass it. As it stands there doesn't seem to be raiding weapons that really even pass up Gladiator ones.

So basically, it's early, and the weapons kind of seem like the patterns are out earlier then they're going to be made right away. These definitely look more obtainable.

Комментарий от 11484

As a shadow priest this is definitely a set I will go for as soon as possible to get some decent epics for the 25 man raiding as I know a lot of the drops I need will go to mages & locks :P

Комментарий от Lobo2me

Total for the set is +66 sta, +44 int, +177 frost damage and +177 shadow damage. The 3 piece set bonus is "Your Frost and Shadow damage spells heal you for 2% of the damage they deal."

The total material costs of all 3 Frozen Shadoweave items are:
468 Netherweave Cloth
52 Arcane Dust
26 Primal Shadow
26 Primal Fire
38 Primal Water
8 Netherweb Spider Silk

If you are Shadoweave specced you only need ½ as many Netherweave cloth, Arcane Dust, Primal Shadow and Primal Fire.

Комментарий от 14958

What do you mean by half as much materials? Isn't it required to be Shadoweave specialized in order to get the pattern at all?

Комментарий от 3511

The set bonus shows as 12% on my client, but on a friend's it shows as 2%. Not sure which is right.

Комментарий от 18690

So this works for dots also from the comments I'm hearing?

Комментарий от 21278

The only problem with this set is that it looks so horrible artwise. I feel like such a chump wearing this.

Комментарий от 23751

Is it still the same in 2.07?

Комментарий от Warlucky

Dots work with this too also the healing it does can crit.

Комментарий от ilovemrdoe

Does anybody know what the chance for it to crit is? it would be amazing if it was your own crit chance

Комментарий от Warlucky

According to critline the crit chance of shadowmend(the name of this effect) is very very close to my own so yes its your own crit chance.

Комментарий от 35325

I don't understand why this set emphasizes Shadow and Frost damage together. If any locks or shadow priests figure out how to spec Frost, or if any mages learn how to spec Shadow, please let me know!

Seriously, though - what's the point of this set? Mages have no use for it: they can spec Fire/Arcane (and most do anyway) and get the full benefit of Spellfire tailoring. For locks and frost mages and shadow priests, though - why burn the gold on something you can only use half of?

Комментарий от 20895

Why there is no +crit stat? Don't warlock dots crit? I mean, isn't +crit as important for warlock, as for example, for a mage?

Комментарий от Benegesserit

Can you craft this set, then get a new profession, only to lose the set bonus or does it unequip this gear?

Комментарий от trinket

Changes in 2.1:
-8 int
-34 frost / shadow damage

Комментарий от 6460

2.1.0 Nerf Details for +shadow dmg on the set:

Frozen Shadoweave:
Shoulders
PTR: 39 damage
Live: 50 damage

Vest (Robe)
PTR: 60 damage
Live: 72 damage

Boots
PTR: 46 damage
Live: 57 damage

This nerf will almost completey chew up the extra +dmg I have on my weapon (+40).

If they nerf the spellstrike set I'd be very dissapointed with Blizzard. However, this isn't live yet so they may change it if enough outrage is generated.

They have been known to switch things back after a nerf (ex. Girdle of Ruination).

Комментарий от 704

Apparently not getting the nerf bat in 2.1 now: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=100430525&sid=1

Комментарий от 15313

anyone knows if the heal from the setbonus affected by fel armor? fel armors tooltip says "increasing the amount of health generated through spells and effects by 20%" does this count towards these?

Комментарий от 53160

This set could be great for warlocks that want alot of stamina, sure there are more stamina on other items but these three items can be great if you don't care about the socket bonuses.. 66 stamina + 12 x 6 stamina gems + 150 hp on chest + 10 stamina from Zandalar and + 12 stamina on boots gives you 175 stamina from three items.. With demonology talents you can get it to x 1.18 more which makes it 2060 hp from 3 items. Imo this is pretty great combined with +179 shadow damage :)

Комментарий от 14605

I'm not sure when exactly, I assume 2.1, but the Robe no longer looks like a vest.

It is what it is supposed to be which is a full robe that goes down to your feet and covers your pants. Look at the 5th screenshot posted here, the default one no longer applies.

Комментарий от norda

What would be the best gem combo, when being a aff. lock.

Комментарий от 73686

The Jaedenfire Gloves of Annihilation (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27889) match this set perfectly on the glove slot, as does the Coldwhisper Cord (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27547) for the belt slot.

As far as I know there is no matching helm, though the Evoker's Helm of Second Sight (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31104) is a decent match

Комментарий от 90646

I personally love this set.
As a frost mage it takes my bonus damage to 750 (thats bonus frost damage) i advise using http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30668#comments From kara -if you manage to get it because it's another + frost damage with good stats.
It does however take a while to make, just stick to it i had my doubts at first but it really pays off :)
Very funny/handy set bonus!
Enjoy.

Комментарий от Eidrian

In regards on where to farm for these materials, I listed the best possible locations - from personal farming experience - for the regeants.

Netherweave Cloth
You're obviously going to need a lot of these to level up your Tailoring. A LOT of them. I started farming these things in Netherstorm (at Manaforge B'naar). The Sunfury Magisters there are very easy to kill, they drop Arcane Tomes and Sunfury Signets, so if you're a Scryer or someone just looking to make an extra buck on the auction house this is definitely a good place to start. However later on, I found Oshu'gun (in Nagrand) to be a prime farming spot for two reasons: 1. The Voidspawn mobs there are very easy to dispose of, 2. they drop both Netherweave Cloth and Motes of Shadow (often 1 or 2 at a time). Just do a full circle around the huge crystal in the middle and pick off any Voidspawns that you catch around there. Keep an eye out for Durn, though. He travels clockwise so it would be wise to travel counter-clockwise just so you can see him coming from a distance.

Primal Shadow
By far the easiest thing to grab despite its droprate nerf in 2.1. Hellfire Penninsula (Void Ridge) and Nagrand (Oshu'gun) are prime spots for farming this. Void Ridge is a bit of a headache with me being a shadowpriest, since a lot of the voids there absorb the magic type of the first spell that hits them and the other voids collapse on you. Even at 70 they tend to hit me for 1500 at a time after collapsing which makes for a major headache when you've got a rogue nearby waiting to drop you. I would highly recommend Oshu'gun for this as the Voidspawns there drop both Netherweave Cloth AND Motes of Shadow which makes for very efficient farming.

Primal Water
Absolutely nothing beats the Elemental Plateau when it comes to farming motes. Except for the fact that it can get quite crowded with both Alliance and Horde during primetime playing hours. If you can get the place exclusively for yourself, though (which can be easy if you're a night owl, just farm this place after everyone gets some shut eye) you can easily rack up a good number of Primal Waters from the Crashing Wave-Spirits there in under an hour. The fishing spots here also can bide your time while you wait for the Crashing Wave-Spirits to respawn (the fishing required to get the motes is 380, however, so pack some lures and that Nat Pagle's with you if your fishing is high enough). If it gets too crowded and you want an easier way to farm these things, Terrokar Forest is a great alternative. The Shimmerscale Eels there (surrounding the lake right above the Cenarion Thicket) have about a 20-25% droprate and it's much closer to Shattrath, allowing you to repair and sell without any hassle at all.

Another thing to note, you can get yourself some Primal Fire here from the fire spirits that are adjacent to the lake that houses the Crashing Wave-Spirits. This is what makes the Plateau such a great and coveted place to farm for these things.

Netherweb Spider Silk
Black Morass (Caverns of Time) and Terrokar Forest (Bone Wastes) both provide some nice areas to farm for these things. While the drop rate can sometimes seem painfully low, the respawn rate of the widows in the Bone Wastes and the exclusive farming privileges of the Black Morass are both the fastest ways to net you the silk. Whichever you prefer, whether it's the quiet, orc-invading atmosphere of BM or the quicker, closer-to-Shattrath Netherweb Ridge, you'll find a good amount of silk from either of these places. It's really up to your preference as to where you'd want to farm: convenience or solitude.

Комментарий от 4515

With this set, I've got 1200 frost spell damage unbuffed now. I find it very hard to replace the set items for tier 4, because the set pieces is to darn good. I am looking forward to see if blizzard gives the tailors more goodies ;)

Комментарий от 81968

I'm always hearing people go on about the shadow spell bonus of this set. But what about the frost spell bonus? Im a frost mage, would this set still be good for me or is there some other frost set that I dont know about?

Комментарий от 40642

Take a good look at other alternatives before deciding to craft this set.

This epic set is iLevel 105, while most level 70 rare gear is iLevel 115. The basic stat bonuses are relatively low and while the spell damage bonus is nice it does not include healing bonus as is found on almost all other caster gear. Additionally the full set bonus is plain useless; picture fighting a raid boss to which you will deal a total of, say, 50 000 damage during the whole encounter, the benefit to you for having the full set will then be a tiny 1000 hitpoints healed.

This is the typical TBC itemization by Blizzard - sacrificing potential stats and bonuses in favor of sockets for customization. Even with very high quality gems this expensive to craft set will only be "that little extra" and most likely poorer compared to a good choice of rare gear.

Комментарий от 91023

Epic and Rare items have different item level ratios, they are separate categories.
This set is viable well into the end of TBC and does compare nicely to T6 for Shadow Priests.
The boots for example are the best boots hands down in terms of flexibility and raw damage, you should not be replacing the boots at all ever (or until there is a better item released).

Комментарий от Morixi

The coolest thing about this set for an affliction warlock is that combined with siphon life and dark pact you can literally go all out on dps forever and never run our of mana/health, no healer or drain life required

Комментарий от 79259

I leveled from 67-70 on rest xp collecting the mats for these pieces and finishing up my tailoring. It was worth it to put on 3 epics right when I hit 70. =D

Комментарий от 86842

Have you noticed that for frost mages this set is not really oh-that good?
Warlocks seem to benefit most of it since they can change additional hp into mana, both warlocks and priests can dot few targets and enjoy constant hp regen while doing something else (fearing, healing, shadow bolting), but frost mage? At level 70 you'll be doing 1000-1500 damage with your frost bolts (not counting crits) which is 20-30 hp/ 2.5 seconds..8-12hp per second, your instant spells are even weaker and you won't cast them faster than one every 1.5 second which makes this set pretty useless in my opinion, especially for pvp, where there are so many (3 atm) nice gladiator's sets that should suite everyone's needs!

Комментарий от 128843

this and AOE = major hp regen,especially if ur a frost mage using blizzard,for pvp,ull be getting major regen from constant insta-cast ice lances which will most likely crit.

and btw,this is major ownage anyways even without the hp leech,great spell dmg and fairly ez to get on my opinion

Комментарий от 139641

If you create the Shadowclothes yourself, it'd take you around 52 days, to get the 26 shadowcloth needed for the set considering that you get 2, if you are in shadoweave spec.

Комментарий от 145511

Combine this set with http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=559 This set is also a 70 craftable set by tailoring. Filling head and pants slots. Not bad if you gather all 5 items before kara. GREAT spell dmg and effects.

Комментарий от ZaraBeth

What about gems here for a warlock? ignore the gem bonus's? or try to go with the flow?

Комментарий от 193426

Does the set bonus get any benefit from bonus healing given from your gear?

Комментарий от 195625

Here is something I posted on the Shadowmend comments, but it could do with repeating here.

It should be noted that the healing is not actually the damage you do to the enemy. At least not always.

The healing you get back from Shadowmend is not the damage you do, but rather the damage done to the enemy. Let me explain what I mean by that.

For example, lets say my frostbolt does 1000 damage, simply for ease of doing the math.

Shadowmend's 2% would be 20 healing from that. And it is, under certain circumstances.

Now, lets assume the mob that frostbolt hits has 100 hitpoints. The damage reported on the screen, and in the combat log, is 1000. However, the damage actually done to the mob is 100. And 2% of 100 is 2. That is how much healing you will receive in this case.

What this means is, the frost spell that kills the mob will almost always get less healing than it otherwise might seem like it would. I once got 1 healing from a 2k icelance crit, simply because the mob could have been sneezed on and it would have died.

Any frost spell that does not kill the target will receive the full amount of healing that you would expect.

Комментарий от DJScythe15

As of the latest beta patch, this set no longer gives bonuses to only Frost and Shadow damage and instead give lesser bonuses to general spell power. The set bonus still only applies to Frost and Shadow damage.spells.

Комментарий от Interest

The items of this set have more spell damage than their T4 equivalent.

Комментарий от 208352

is there any other higher lvl sets with an healin effect like this one?

Комментарий от 171044

This set got nerfed in the last patch.

Комментарий от Aomknight

Shadoweave Tailoring WAS required for this set, but no longer. It is now BOE, and can be used without any tailoring at all, or by someone with another spec. With Wrath out and 3.2 expected soon, motes and primals are impossibly hard to buy/sell, so you'd likely end up farming the mats yourself, and then leveling out of it. If you are shadoweave specced(like me) it might be worth a boost leveling your first character to make the shoulders and try to sell it, but you'd sink a lot of time into getting the mats. The stats are great, but, it would take a few days farming to get the mats. If you have a easy way to get the primals, go ahead, but if you have wotlk, it's probally not worth it.

Комментарий от 396245

Is the level 70 requirement to use the gear still valid? It seems odd to have the requirement when you can get specialization at lvl 60 w/350 in tailoring and needed to be a tailor to equip it. Just wondering if I should pursue it with my 65.

Комментарий от 417228

This set looks good with a tabard of the Kirin Tor

Комментарий от Senpraks

These are the total materials costs for the set; Застывшее тенетканое одеяние, Застывшие тенетканые наплечники and Застывшие тенетканые сапоги:

Застывшее тенетканое одеяние: This item requires a Портняжное дело level of at least 375, and the following items:

Застывшие тенетканые наплечники: This item requires a Портняжное дело level of at least 355, and the items:

Застывшие тенетканые сапоги: Lastly, this one requires a Портняжное дело level of at least 365, and these items:

This brings it to a total of:
26x Тенеткань
38x Изначальная Вода
8x Изначальная Вода

Тенеткань can be crafted with level 350 Портняжное дело, and requires:

Рулон прочной ткани Пустоты can be crafted with level 325 Портняжное дело with the following items:

Finally, Рулон ткани Пустоты is made out of 5x Ткань Пустоты.

The total amount of raw materials required, is:
38x Изначальная Вода
8x Шелковая паутина Пустоты
26x Изначальная тень
26x Изначальный огонь
52x Чародейная пыль
390x Ткань Пустоты

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