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News Round Up: Reduced Droprates for Heroic Mounts

Опубликовано 2012-08-06 в 12:48 perculia

Draztal

Will the mounts be an 1% drop ish in MoP? Or do they stay as current 100%?

I haven't seen any information on this as of yet :).

Thanks for reading.

Hit the cut to read the rest of the blue posts on pet battles and Gold Challenge Mode rewards!Pet Battle XP Changed

Mumper

We have made a few adjustments to the both the weakened by capture pets and the overall XP curve. Details below!

Catching any pet level 15 or under retains its current level.
Catching a level 16-20 pet will lose 1 level.
Catching a level 21-25 pet will lose 2 levels.
We have dramatically reduced the XP required to level for pets after level 10.

Thanks for all of your feedback on this stuff guys.

Reviving Battle Pets

Mumper

This is a good thread, here are a few of our thoughts:

Healing pets to full after every battle is not a change we are interested in making. We want to encourage players to not only win a battle, but to win by taking the least amount of damage or by using pet heals in a smart way. Attrition is a driving part of the gameplay and it won't be going away anytime soon. We do have tunable factors that we will continue to watch though. (Battle Recovery, Revive spell cooldown & pet bandages)

In regards to the spell, we have just reduced the cooldown to 10m for the next build. (Down from 15m) We will keep a close eye on the feedback and continue to monitor how often players are using the Stable Master to heal. The Stable Master should be a fallback, not a requirement. We know the pet bandages are a bit too sparse right now too, we are going to amp that up as well to help fill in the gaps.

Finally, the cool-up's that we added to the heal spells (both the player and stable master) are to deal with exploit cases of players using multiple characters/accounts to avoid cooldowns. We used 3 minutes as a baseline since most players can fly to one in that amount of time from pretty much anywhere on a full speed mount.

Thanks for all the feedback, we are listening!

Consuming Content Too Fast

Draztal

There's a broad spectrum of players on this game. And the LFR is interesting to some of those players, just as Heroic, soul-crushing bosses are interesting to a different set of players, and then you get everything in between. The community is way more different that what some of you think it is. Even the motivation behind each of us is entirely different in some cases. Some might raid for the loot, some might raid for the lore, others for the achievements, others for the challenge, others for the social experience of tackling content with their friends... and so on.

Heroic Elite Items

Draztal

Have you heard about the Heroic elite in the new raids?
I haven't read much about it but it's like an extra hardmode I think, correct me if im wrong.

hereGold Challenge Mode Teleport Reward

Watcher

They share a cooldown with each other, but not with the or other player spells like shaman or mage Teleport. Whenever you complete a challenge mode, this shared cooldown is reset.

Beta Class Balance Analysis

Rygarius

Also, a little tidbit for DKs who kept reading through all that Mage stuff: is back off the GCD in the next build.
Doing LFR I realized that my bloodworms were doing about 35% of my healing done (compared to live, where it does less than ~5%.). I was also competing against healers on healing done. (I was averaging out to 40k HPS on the stone guards, compared to other healers who are just a bit higher.) Is this intended?

Zarhym

Hunter level 90 talents (, etc.) appear not to be triggering Marksman mastery. Is that intended?

benefits from BM mastery, but does not. What's the intent here (e.g., presumably benefits from it)?

incurs a 1.5s global cooldown, unlike the 1s incurred by any other direct damage hunter ability. Is this intended?

Rygarius

Here’s another bit of info I want to pass on sooner rather than waiting for a new build to get to you all, about Arcane Mages.

One of the defining characteristics of Arcane Mages has been that they can trade more mana for more damage, at a decreasing efficiency. In other words, they can play conservative, and use their mana as frugally as possible in order to maximize sustained damage. Or, they can play aggressively and increase their DPS now, in exchange for lower sustained damage over the course of the whole fight.

Arcane’s sustained damage is about where we want it (as well as Fire and Frost), barring some minor tweaks perhaps. But, they’re currently playing very high on their stacks. The goal is to have their rotations change significantly based on which level 90 talent they pick. An Arcane Mage with should play very aggressively and frequently stop to recharge their batteries. An Arcane Mage with should generally play rather conservative, but stay at relatively high mana to maximize . And with , an Arcane Mage should generally play the traditional mix of conserve/burn/evocate.

What we’re actually seeing are all three styles playing much more aggressively than we’re aiming for. There’s effectively a ceiling of just how much you can convert more mana into more damage. Invokers are playing so aggressively that they never drop their s at all, Rune users are staying at a 4 stack for a majority of the time, and Incanters are able to play more aggressively during their conserve phases and burn longer.

In order to try to solve this, we decided to try raising the ceiling. So, in the next beta build, you’ll find the max s has been raised from 4 to 6, and the damage increase per stack is back up to 25% from 20%. I’d like to emphasize that the goal of these changes are to create the gameplay flexibility that we’re hoping for there to be with Arcane, not to change Arcane’s overall DPS. There will likely need to be additional changes after this to readjust their damage back to where we want it. Feedback about how it feels, and theorycrafting analyzing the effects this has on them are especially appreciated.

Zarhym

Latest finds from doing hitting dummies for an hour.

* Judgment can be dodge/parried from 30 yds away
* is really bugged.
---- Nova is doing only 1-2 damage at several AP levels
---- It really only hits for 0 yds.

So, blues might want to check this... if that's ok with you... that is...

Rygarius

It seems that and have a DR now... is it at "beyond 6", similar to /?

Rygarius

Earthliving has a 20% base chance to proc, and an additional 80% (additive, total of 100%) if the target was below 35% HP when the triggering heal landed. After that, the chance is multiplied by 0.3 for , and 0.5 for .

For example, a chain heal on a healthy target has a 10% chance to trigger . A tick on a healthy target has a 6% chance to trigger .
So, if I am reading this correctly, on targets below 35% HP, each jump should have a 50% change to proc , and each tick should have a 30% chance to proc ?

Is this correct, or was the datamined change to Weapon actually the removal of the 80% increased proc chance on and ?

Rygarius

There is some major bug going on with and & . Tagging a target with seems to cause & to over double in damage.

Комментарий от ant340 I've been wondering something for a long time now. What has happened to the 100 mount acheivement? Will they increase the amount to like 150 or something? Otherwise everyone is going to be riding dragonhawks lol Комментарий от Jebnus What they may do is add-on to the achievement and add another reward for getting, say 200 mounts. That's what I would assume anyways. Комментарий от Rystrave I've been wondering something for a long time now. What has happened to the 100 mount acheivement? Will they increase the amount to like 150 or something? Otherwise everyone is going to be riding dragonhawks lolКомментарий от dagoberg I wonder when exactly are they changing the drop rate on the mounts, when MoP comes out on the 25th or when the pre patch goes live. Anyone remember how it was for Wrath? Комментарий от leobolin I wonder when exactly are they changing the drop rate on the mounts, when MoP comes out on the 25th or when the pre patch goes live. Anyone remember how it was for Wrath?Комментарий от Adamsm Really not surprised to see this happening. Комментарий от Linkno1 I've been wondering something for a long time now. What has happened to the 100 mount acheivement? Will they increase the amount to like 150 or something? Otherwise everyone is going to be riding dragonhawks lolКомментарий от Interest Not surprised. People are already trying to sell Heroic DS runs. =) Комментарий от Randoom worst idea ever! some of us havent been as lucky or had it stolen from ML ninja leader's... why should we miss out for your mistake blizz? Комментарий от Adamsm worst idea ever! some of us havent been as lucky or had it stolen from ML ninja leader's... why should we miss out for your mistake blizz?Комментарий от shao That dragonhawk is kinda disappointing for that 100 mount achievement. I think I've had it out once since I got it. But good question. Maybe they'll add more achievements with the new mounts coming out.

Bummer on the low drop rates. I've been running Vortex Pinnacle and Stonecore a bunch lately, and have yet to see any of those mounts drop. Now it's going to be even harder for DS and FL :(Комментарий от Strand Regular/heroic dungeon mounts will have the same drop rate they do now. Комментарий от Thorvas On the droprates: In the article, did it say that even with lower droprates the firehawk and handmaiden will be even easier to get overall than the wrath ones, because their droprates won't go as low as them, or that they are easier to get NOW, than the wrath ones was in their time?

A bit confused, sorry for my ignorance. Just hoping there will be a slightly bigger chance in MoP for these mounts. I'd sell my soul for the firehawk, unfortunately I haven't been able to get into a FL heroic run. I doubt that's going to change. Комментарий от Adamsm On the droprates: In the article, did it say that even with lower droprates the firehawk and handmaiden will be even easier to get overall than the wrath ones, because their droprates won't go as low as them, or that they are easier to get NOW, than the wrath ones was in their time?

A bit confused, sorry for my ignorance. Just hoping there will be a slightly bigger chance in MoP for these mounts. I'd sell my soul for the firehawk, unfortunately I haven't been able to get into a FL heroic run. I doubt that's going to change.Комментарий от perculia There's a precedent for it in Wrath, but unsure if it will be 1% or something slightly less harsh. Seeing how Blizz was so adamant about meta-drakes being removed in t7 and then keeping the remaining ones in...who knows if something different could happen.

The BMAH has also put Дымящееся яйцо Миллазор up since it drops from normal mode...unsure if that will stay. Комментарий от felhunter Seeing how Blizz was so adamant about meta-drakes being removed in t7 and then keeping the remaining ones in...who knows if something different could happen.

Слава рейдеру (25 игроков)Комментарий от Randoom worst idea ever! some of us havent been as lucky or had it stolen from ML ninja leader's... why should we miss out for your mistake blizz?Комментарий от Adamsm worst idea ever! some of us havent been as lucky or had it stolen from ML ninja leader's... why should we miss out for your mistake blizz?Комментарий от Interest Seeing how Blizz was so adamant about meta-drakes being removed in t7 and then keeping the remaining ones in...who knows if something different could happen.

Слава рейдеру (25 игроков)Комментарий от zanatorix I must say, my guild has been raiding BoT, TotFW and BWL since a few weeks into the expansion, we have yet to see a Drake of the Southern Wind, we've been raiding FL since the day of its release and HC as of just over a month later... we have seen ONE i repeat "ONE" pureblood firehawk from Rag... and DS... we've been raiding from the release day and we've seen two handmaidens and a single "experiment" mount from Ultraxion... and you're now rducing the drop rate on all cata raid mount drops? i'd say increase the bloody rate until cata.... else increase the drop rate per raid lockout where a mount hasn't been dropped.

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