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Downtime Tuesday #50, 6.2.4 Live, Legion Hippogryph Mounts, Murloc Slippers, Legion Ability Pruning

Опубликовано 2016-03-22 в 14:06 perculia

Downtime Tuesdsay #50TradeChatFunko popstrailersBattle.net Voice Chat Alphaalpha updatesrevised world mapLady Liadrin heroLegion Pop CultureNew Hippogryph MountsYouTube playlistBlizzard Murloc SlippersRudeismmurloc prototype slipper

A PROTOTYPE, only-one-in-the-wild murloc slipper. IT MAKES MRGRGRGGLRL SOUNDS IT'S SO AWESOME I LOVE IT pic.twitter.com/qoLNW35ecw

— Rudeism (@rudeism) March 22, 2016Patch 6.2.4 Live

Blizzard

Battle.net Infrastructure

Client support for Battle.net infrastructure changes, including some memory optimizations.

Ability Pruning in PvP

Blizzard

WoD started and Legion continues pruning. I suppose abilities of all types have been pruned, but what we really feel the most is the pruning of abilities that don't directly contribute to damage rotations, of which there has been a ton. We feel the loss of a unique spell much more than replacing or combining a couple of nukes.

This trend is very bad for pvp, which really needs lots of interesting abilities that aren't purely damage. Abilities like grounding totem, spell reflect, curse of tongues, curses in general, gouge, dark sim, and many more. Even simple choices like which armor to use (fel vs demon) are engaging in pvp. Some of these abilities come back in pvp talents, but you're only able to pick 1-2, rather than the 3-6 (or more) that kits used to have.

Without these abilities, pvp feels like a damage spam. In the past, it was the case that pvp battles were significantly more complex, in terms of the types and number of different abilities being used, than pve battles, even raid bosses. However, with very significant pruning of non-damage abilities, and pve fights getting ever more complex, this may no longer be the case. It may be true that raid boss battles now have more going on than pvp, and that makes pvp dreadfully boring (since it's lacking other things that make pve interesting). Even if it's not true that pvp is less complicated than raid bosses, think about the weight that puts on players, backtracking in depth so far. What if the first raid of Legion was equivalent in depth to vanilla Molten Core? People might not be so happy--yet that's basically what's happening in pvp.

The result of removing all sorts of different non-damaging utility spells and replacing them with 1-3 pre-boxed pvp talents is that pvp starts to look like a moba with really complicated (for a moba) damage rotations. You might say: that's not so bad, mobas are really popular. Yes, they are very popular, but WoW's pvp audience wants to play WoW pvp, not a moba. Worse, WoW pvp looks like an extremely watered down version of a moba, missing all sorts of incredibly intricate and interesting elements, like map positioning, farming, ganks, on-the-fly-builds, map objectives, etc.

I understand you're trying to make the game more appealing to new players. I share the concerns of making WoW (and pvp specifically) easier to get into and easier to watch on twitch. But it does nobody any good if those new players have nobody to play against. WoW pvp needs kit depth in utility and non-damage abilities.

For Warlocks -

No baseline Demonic Portal - Remove gate way and give us Portal Back
No ShadowfuryFor me, abilities like Dark Simulacrum added a great level of depth. A friend of mine loves the ability and the freedom it offers: do I need a heal? Let me put it on a healer. That mage is probably going to Mirror Image, let me steal that. That sort of stuff.Темный симулякрBlue Postsilvl Scaling in PvP

Desvin

Low levels are currently set to the same scaling values as level 110. The baseline item level is different for each bracket. It is approximately the ilevel of an heirloom item at the max level for each bracket.

Alpha Invites

Desvin

This morning, a wave of invites was sent out with a focus on PvP experience. We'll continue to monitor participation. Thanks!

PvP Prestige Appearance Unlock

Комментарий от Phlynch Love that new hippogyph model, way better than the old one Комментарий от Eighjan Is 6.2.4 starting to pave the way for pre-Legion event...? Комментарий от OldStoneface Did he get a single slipper? And does he has to dance to 100 again to get the other foot? Комментарий от Jhakuzi Is 6.2.4 starting to pave the way for pre-Legion event...?Комментарий от Orenorie Just so everyone knows, the patch that came today also seems to have included the ability to filter your raids in the group finder with "Hellfire Citadel (Mythic)". Комментарий от overthinker So PVP will be loosing some abilities? Not that I PVP alot but I get in on the weekly event every now and then. So please do not take this the wrong way when I say PVP has always been about big numbers damaging each other.or a "damage spam". The Resistance on armor had always lowered the damaging numbers but not really by much over all. I still get 3 shoted when I am in my PVE gear and even when I am in my full set of 740 PVP gear. Sure having more abilities come in handy, but even if you have a damage reducing ability and a root ability and a cc ability what more do you really need? PVP is supposed to be challenging. Hit the person harder then they are hitting you. Shield yourself, root them and if you are outmatched CC them and run away.
If they reduced the cooldown on the trinkets to 30 seconds instead of 2 minuets this I feel would solve everything. Комментарий от linktoheaven If they reduced the cooldown on the trinkets to 30 seconds instead of 2 minuets this I feel would solve everything.Комментарий от zjones666 Could we get Downtime Tuesday during downtime on Tuesday? Комментарий от Orenorie Could we get Downtime Tuesday during downtime on Tuesday?Комментарий от perculia Overnight we had some big news about N'Zoth that was very popular with users, so we promoted that news in the morning. You can subscribe to TradeChat's YouTube to get alerts whenever her next video goes live. Most of the time we have no Tuesday maintenance, the title is a bit tongue-in-cheek :) Комментарий от Moriquen TDIL i need a pair of new slippers Комментарий от mathiaslindberg I'm jealous of the people who felt the ability prune during Warlords, because Windwalker Monks certainly did not feel it, and they were not very enjoyable. Комментарий от Lolia Go Kiwis! <3 Комментарий от Random0056 Murloc slippers! Congrats to Rude. Комментарий от igorsan Oh no, they are using the Hyppogryphs models without fixing the awful looking wings... (ó_ò)' Комментарий от Interest Interesting...I was wondering if a blue would address the whole ability squish thing. May need to analyze the overall situation at some point myself, especially for loss of depth (which is often indirectly described as a byproduct issue of squishing even more). Комментарий от Albaharmamar The hippogryphs are just different color variations of the RaF mount, can't say i'm surprised but i am certainly disappointed. Комментарий от Ishna Hippogryphs <3 Комментарий от Silmafarion I don't use slippers but I'm getting a pair if they become available on the store. Комментарий от Robjec What's wrong with their wings igorsan? I always felt they had the best wings on any flying mount.

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