so, us hunter's get 2 new weapons to play with, what would be better, this or Lotrafen, Spear of the Damned ?

obviosly, we'll have to fight for both, as, well, ferals will want the spear, and fury warriors the sword. they are almost as good. 1 more agi on this one compared with the spear and 1 less crit rating on the sword compared to the spear, then there is the stamina, the sword has more stamina, meaning more AP for us hunters so I would say the sword is better over all, but I wouldn't pass either to anyone unless I had one or the other.

Комментарий от 356917

This sword has some really nice stats for an Unholy DK using the 17/0/54 spec, the crit is awesome. At first glance it does look like a Hunter priority weapon but no DPS be it melee or hunter should pass up on this bad boy. I do prefer a weapon with strength rather than AP and agil but this is too well itemized to be overlooked. I plan on paying up some DKP for this when it drops.

Комментарий от 141095

best mitigation tanking weapon .7-.9% more dodge than inevitable defeat.

Комментарий от Darthdavo

Saurfang looted this...
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=12779

This weapon was the result of his ownage.

Комментарий от pminnieur

For Human Blood Death Knights this sword is better than our beloved Voldrethar, Dark Blade of Oblivion.

Комментарий от Tsarnkoth

I picked one up last night and am currently using it in my MH as fury. It's got Berserking on it, and so far it's working out really well, it's faster than my old mainhand ( The Jawbone ) but it has more top end damage and a lot more DPS, so that's not really a problem. (If anything the slightly higher speed helps with rage generation.) I'd had horrible luck on 2h weapon drops (I was offhanding a Claymore of the Prophet or Titansteel Destroyer depending on my other gear options) so this was a massive upgrade all around.

We had discussions among our physical DPS about letting hunters bid on it, and ultimately decided to let the market make the decision - none of them bid on it when it dropped, however, mainly because we've seen lots of the staff drops so they were happy to let me take this. It's an excellent hunter weapon but it's probably better off in a melee DPS' hands especially with the paucity of weapons you can use with Titan's Grip in Ulduar (Worldcarver and this sword are the only 2h weapons that can be dual wielded before Yoggy and hard mode bosses). And with Lotrafen being almost identical to Rune Edge, Arms warriors have a difficult choice on their hands (coming down to Sword Spec vs Poleaxe Spec). Hunters of course would make good use of either weapon, as would Ret Pallies and DK's.

For a fury warrior this and Worldcarver are basically the best you can do before Yoggy drops Earthshaper, which is clearly superior to either from a fury perspective.

It should also be pointed out that if you've been losing a lot of crit going from T7 to T8 gear (take a look at warrior T8 to see how crit drops) Rune Edge will pop you right back up again.

Edited to Add: I'm now DWing it, and I think I'm going to sit with them until I get two Volds. Don't see a reason to 'upgrade' before that. I might go for two Aesir's Edge if they drop, but I do the ten mans sparingly.

Комментарий от Grksinner

Just got it on my pally really nice weapon. Damage is high, Crit is good,not as much stre or ap on it but Berserking makes up for it. Arp not a stat i go for but with a warrior tank i see it being usefull as well as the boost

Комментарий от beemerider

Got this last week for my hunter. Nobody else wanted it and I'm tired of the stick weapons that hunters seem to end up with lately. I didn't need the +hit that comes with the staff equivalent so the +ap is very nice.

Комментарий от 299213

For Dk tanks this makes a great placeholder until you can get

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=45516 ,voldrethar, being realistic you wont be getting the chance any time soon

or

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=45165 , worldcarver, Lot more realistic chance of dropping but random loot is random, gz if you get any of these, there all great weapons

Комментарий от 394640

Say what ever you want but taking this with death knight over hunter is bs.. Im dk and i rather be waiting for xt hard mode sword then taking this if even 1 hunter needs it from guild... i think same goes for pallys also but im not sure.

Комментарий от 505492

I Got this tonight on my hunter... i spent some dkp on it . Great Stat stick and it hits for a ton. Wow loot calls this a hunter weapon hands down. http://www.wow-loot.com/raid_ulduar25.htm

Комментарий от 372817

Hunter is happy.

Комментарий от 415510

Hi!
This good weapon for Retribution Paladin?

Комментарий от 318373

After thinking it over, I have no problems with a hunter rolling on equal footing with a plate melee on this weapon.....

It was a problem with the Betrayer because Betrayer was the clear BIS weapon for Plate Dps at that level of content. This is not the case with Rune Edge.

Комментарий от Magmy

Renamed from Rune Edge to Stormrune Edge in 3.2. This change obviously happened due to a Rune Edge already existing as a level 52 Uncommon One-Handed Axe created from Blacksmithing.

Комментарий от 429260

Hello mates!
I think that is the best sword for Retrebution paladin!
An paladin that is on Retrebution needs those stats.
1.Stamina
2.Strenght
3.Critical strike rating (you need that for vengeance)

That weapon have them!
Also it haves extra good damage!

With my paladin i do 3-4k on hit!

Ok! Have fun :P

Комментарий от kemperlol

Check your shield swap macros if you have them, they changed the name of the sword.

Комментарий от 117253

3.2 Changed name from Runed Edge to Stormruned Edge

Комментарий от 395490

Ok i know this point has been driven into the ground because people always QQ about the subject, but if im on my warrior im not gona roll for the BiS ranged weapon for me if ANY hunter needs it. It would be an upgrade in my stat slot for me, but as a warrior im not gona be sitting back and shooting a gun at any raid boss ever. Im gona be up there swinging the sword that 99 million +1 huntards whine that they dont get to roll for because its the BiS for their secondary weapon. The reason that I as a warrior would get a melee weapon first is because my skills and entire class concept is geared around hitting things with a melee weapon to the greatest effect for the same reason that hunters as a ranged class arent up atacking a boss from pointblank range. As a raid leader i would definatly give this to a hunter due to the fact that it is a very nice stat piece, but only if there were no melee in my raid that needed it more. When i give out loot i try to maximize the effectiveness of the raid so that close clear we had this week is an easier clear next week. Which in turn means that in a few weeks you hunters WILL be getting this for your stat slot since we can progress more, get more loot, and get our melee dps comparable melee weapons.

*The reason that melee dps like DKs and warriors will roll on weapons like this is weapon dps is the #1 dps increasing stat for them. On my warrior this weapon would be a signifigant upgrade over https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=46016 due solely to the fact of the weapon dps. While there actually are more points itemized towards dps on weapons with agi and ap, than straight str, the biggest factor in getting an item like this is the weapon's hit strength. Could go on explaining about weapon speed on top of that, but the main thing is that this would still be a dps increase of of any str weapon for a 2h using melee class with lower weapon dps.
Below is the chart for a blood dk's stat weights showing how superior a weapon dps increase is to any other stat

Stat APE
Attack Power 1
Weapon DPS 9.89
Strength 2.89
Armor Penetration 2.75
Hit Rating (to cap) 2.51
Expertise Rating 2.47
Crit Rating 1.56
Haste Rating 1.5
Agility 1.37
Hit Rating (to spell hit cap) .52
Armor .03

Комментарий от Summerdale

I thought it was called rune edge, did they rename it because of the nubby rune edge axe?

Комментарий от 451133

Just had a DK tank bid max dkp vs ret paladin, and hunters. When I questioned them I was told "dont question my decisions for my gear." So I am asking.. am I a bastard for being glad a hunter got it and questioning said DK's decision?

Комментарий от Blackriver

Technically speaking, this weapon IS itemized for a Hunter. Has Agility but no Strength = not itemized for plate-wearers.

However, the design intent and the actual outcome are two totally separate things unforunately, leading to the melee vs. Hunter debates...

Edit: Downrate me if you please. Weapons with Agility but no Strength are not intended for plate-wearers.

Комментарий от Warriorforlife

I Just had a BM hunter in my guild win it over me(fury warrior).Luckily we had kaliban loot list so I got it from him(ty bliz for giving 2 hrs to trade stuff).Listen Hunters This weapon is excellent for you but it wont inscrease your dps as much as for a warrior/dk/ret pally.You can get the staff from XT which cant be used dk's and pally's and the speed is stupid for a warrior.Just like your dps increases when you get a better ranged weapon so does this for a melee class.

Комментарий от 445645

Its unfortunate for any huntard to get this over a DK tank or any dps plate wearer for that matter. Its already been explained that a melee weapon is a secondary weapon for hunters compared to the primary for the plate wearers. In regards to Dk tanking Almost all agility/ap 2 handers give a greater amout of avoidance at the cost of putting out less threat to higher dmging Strength/parry 2 handers. A good Example of weapons to compare for tanking are Marrowstrike Vs Edge of Ruin. The only way I'd take Edge over Marrow is if I am an Orc who gets the 5 to expertise from the axe specialization. Good Dks know how to put out significant amounts of threat and so that shouldnt be an issue unless they are under geared, some dumb toon starts to attack before threat is established or the dps doesnt spec into their threat reducing talents that will never be an issue.
An added plus for the AP 2 handers is that they give 2 armor for every 1 agility. Stormrune gives an additional 242 armor (thats better than the cloak enchant & the arm gained from agility may scale w/ the 60%arm buff from frost pres(unsure on that)) which adds small amount of dmg reduction for the tanks...something that is very minimal but adds up to a lot in the end for the DKs. The way I look at it is that anything that adds to your dmg reduction or increases your healing (improved blood pres or prot pally talent) is giving you more overall HP for the fight. HP is the number 1 thing looked at when comparing tanks in a raid (which is unfortuanate b/c sometimes the better geared tank doesnt have higher hp).
The only thing I would say to look out for is the 2 handers is fast attack speeds(anything below 3.4=fast) & haste rating.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Drops of Iron Council (25); nice upgrade over betrayer for melee, or as a stat stick for hunters.

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