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Самое долгое и нудное достижение. В отличие от WotlK и Cataclysm в TBC были отголоски ванилы, поэтому чтобы выполнить все достижения Награнда вам предстоит облетать половину Запределья, излазить ту же часть подземелий, выбивать из мобов квесты, а так же находить их в самых неожиданных моментах (убил двух гвардов - и нпс рядом дает вам квест).
Согласитесь - в WotlK и той же Cate квесты выполняются динаичнее и ограничиваются, в основном одной зоной, а не целым континентом)

Комментарий от 1141241

ачив для задрота

Комментарий от Smerymanl

Интересно то, что Орде нужно выполнить на 23 квеста больше Альянса..

Комментарий от pasratka

Самая неприятная часть общего ачива Хранителя Мудрости. Ещё с прокачки мне запомнилось то лёгкое, но отчётливое отвращение, которое вызывали квесты в запределье, а теперь я отведал его сполна.
Десятки, СОТНИ одинаково занудных обитателей этого несчастного мирка всё время жалуются на свою тяжёлую жизнь и суровых угнетателей, при этом просят даже по самым незначительным поводам устраивать настоящий геноцид. Благородные дренеи, пессимистичные сломленные, совершенно типичные (и не менее раздражающие) друиды Кенария, Саргерас их побери, разбавленные местными пигмеями всех мастей и расцветок, выдают самые кошмарные задания, какие я только видел. Квестовые мобы размазаны тонким слоем по доброй половине зоны, при том дроп необходимых по заданию итемов ощутимо занижен, во всяком случае, сравнительно с ванильными и личёвскими локациями. Дурацкие итемы для дейликов так и норовят забить сумки, постоянная конкурренция (спасибо кроссерверу!) с другими игроками невероятно выматывает... Об этом отдельно: я вообще против ганка низкоуровневых персонажей, но в запределье я безжалостно откручивал головы всем встреченным ордынцам независимо от уровня, и мечтал сделать то же самое со своей фракцией. Сами квесты тоже расставлены абы как, часто приходится возвращаться в уже вроде бы пройденные зоны, убивать уже раз убитых мобов и вообще страдать какой-то малопонятной ерундой. Постоянно приходится лезть в подземелья, потому что там-де стоит очередной чёртов разведчик, квесты которого я давно уже сделал, но которому должен зачем-то отчитаться о прибытии.
Такую ненависть вызывают, правда, не все задания. Есть и весьма интересные цепочки, преимущественно в гномских и гоблинских поселениях, а так же в фракционных крепостях альянса (не все), но большая часть квестов вызывает изжогу своей однообразностью.
Отдельного проклятия заслуживают люди, делавшие квесты для Острова Кровавой Дымки. Хоть он и не входит в этот ачив, примазавшись к хранителю мудрости Калимдора, общие черты маразма и дурогонства весьма характерны.
Уважайте людей, сделавших Хранителя Мудрости Запределья. Они этого достойны.

Комментарий от denn23rus

Пожалуй самое простое - это "Тень предателя". По крайне мере просто прилетел и стал делать квесты в долине призрачной луны до тех пор, пока не получил ачив. Даже пара лишних квестов осталась

Комментарий от xxxKoBoltxxx

Ввиду последних введений сайта wowhead.com сделать ачив Хранитель мудрости стало проще.
Необходимо в личном кабинета сайта добавить профиль персонажа, на которого пытаемся сделать ачив.

После привязки персонажа появится страница а-ля армори.
В ней выбираем пункт квесты. Затем переключаемся на невыполненные.
Вот список тех квестов которые мы не сделали. Особенно полезно, если прервали цепочку квестов и не можете понять где продолжить.

Через фильтр можно ввести название локации ,чтоб поиск был более таргетированный.

Спасибо, Вовхэд!

Комментарий от mckenzy

Самое сложное тут... Это некоторые квесты в данной локе, приходилось буквально самоубиватся и с голым задом идти бить хитровыделанных мобов. И ЭТО НА 73 УРОВНЕ! Замораживайте свой опыт товарищи!

Комментарий от mycitrus

Моя теория такова. Разрабы решили, что если игроки будут долго возиться с квестами, то не надо часто выпускать обновления. Потрясающий ход!
Отсюда:

Неоправданно долгие кулдауны у квеститемов.
Много занудных, затянутых квестов жанра "проводите npc, а то он сам не может дойти".
Низкий шанс дропа квеститемов, в результате чего выкосить нужно 20-50 мобов.

Мой личный топ возглавляют Долина призрачной луны, где гоняют с квестами по всему Запределью, и Острогорье, где каждый второй квест мне приходилось искать на вовхэде.
Всем только вступившим на этот путь желаю терпения и удачного дропа.
Не забудьте вооружиться Меч из мягкого пенополимера, без него не сделать часть квестов.
И кушайте Медвежий тартар.
Удачи!

this is cake. logged in (as lvl 70) after patch and found out i was just two quest short in terokkar. went down to the LC (or is it Shattar) camp in southern bone waist and picked up the quest wher you have to escort some dwarfes and then kill a big worm. then follow and BAM, Loremaster of Outlands! (the follow used to be a biatch with low droprate so i never did it when i lvled...)

Комментарий от 23449

80+63+86+90+54+75+120 = 568 quests total in Outland

Комментарий от niruen

My quests don't seem to be counting for the achievement. I am lvl 80 and have decided to go back and work through outland. But I have been having trouble finding quests to complete, and when I do they don't appear to count towards the achievement. Any thoughts? (I have tried two zones - Terokkar Forrest and Hellfire Penn.)

Комментарий от 321380

am I the only who is doing this before they head to northrend?

Комментарий от Ayria

A great add-on for this achievement is Carbonite. Basically what it does is gives you a checklist of every quest you can start in a zone. When you do a quest it marks it off the list. It lists all hard to find escorts, rare drops, and out of place quest givers. The only downside is after you download it, you have to mark off the quests your have already completed because it can't track quests before it is installed. Still a great way to go through a zone and see if you missed any quests.

Комментарий от 341672

EASY TO FINISH GUIDE ! EASY TO FINISH GUIDE ! EASY TO FINISH GUIDE !

For those extra lazy people (like me):

Visit http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10905-EveryQuest.html and follow the instructions given in the addon description concerning the change with Patch 3.3. (scroll down a little)

After you have done that, use the addon to see where your missing quests are, check on wowhead.com if needed and finish your loremaster achievement !

All credit goes to the authors of EveryQuest !

Greetings
Fedono of Gorgonnash(EU)

Комментарий от Darkmanian

So you've decided to try and get Loremaster?

Addons you'll want to help you along the way:
1st is EveryQuest. A helpful tool that utilizes the recent quest database functionality introduced to the game, allowing you to see which quests you have not completed, in every zone/ dungeon / raid. It can also filter out various quests you might not want to start ie; raid specific quests / cooking / class etc.

The 2nd is Lightheaded which has the ability to show you valuable WoWhead comments and info when you access your quest log. It can also show you where quest givers are in the form of coordinates. Very very helpful. Also displays quest chains (very helpful) and helps you find where you are up to in that chain.

The 3rd is TomTom waypoint arrow. This will integrate with your EveryQuest & Lightheaded and allow you to see where you need to be on the map, mini map and on screen HUD. Its a small movable arrow that points the way to objectives and/or quest givers and any other location you wish to ask it to point to.
For instance, if you're currently looking for a druid in Moonglade named Rukthaan (fictional as I can't think of any of their names right now) you would only need to type the NPCs name into Lighthead's search engine. Find the right NPC and then click on the provided coords inside Lighthead interface, that will automatically engage TomTom's way point arrow to help you locate the NPC.

But that was a hypothetical and EveryQuest should tell you exactly what quests you need to complete in order to finish each zone as you go on. It will also have the functionality to help you see which quest givers have what, and allow TomTom to tell you where to go to find them. But.. incase you want to trek to a specific NPC and want info on the (what could be) thousands of quests you have remaining you'll want Lightheaded as well.

Комментарий от prohan

Just get to lv80, then solo every quest in Outlands.

Комментарий от 835063

Loremaster of Eastern Kingdoms
Arathi Highlands: 18
Badlands: 35
Blasted Lands: 35
Burning Steppes: 40
Cape of Stranglethorn: 60
Duskwood: 45
Eastern Plaguelands: 70
Hinterlands: 30
Loch Modan: 45
Northern Stranglethorn: 50
Redridge Mountains: 40
Searing Gorge: 35
Swamp of Sorrows: 25
Western Plaguelands: 45
Westfall: 35
Wetlands: 40
Total: 648

Loremaster of Kalimdor
Ashenvale: 70
Bloodmyst Isle: 60
Darkshore: 90
Dustwallow Marsh: 60
Desolace: 55
Felwood: 55
Faralas: 40
Silithus: 19
Stonetalon Mountains: 55
Southern Barrens: 50
Tanaris: 40
Thousand Needles: 60
Un’Goro Crater: 41
Winterspring: 58
Total: 753

Loremaster of Outland
Hellfire Peninsula: 76
Blade’s Edge Mountains: 86
Nagrand: 75
Netherstorm: 120
Shadowmoon Valley: 90
Terokkar Forest: 63
Zangarmarsh: 52
Total: 562

Loremaster of Northrend
Borean Tundra: 130
Dragonblight: 115
Grizzly Hills: 85
Howling Fjord: 130
Icecrown: 140
Sholazar Basin: 75
Storm peaks: 100
Zul’Drak: 100
Total: 875

Loremaster of Cataclysm
Deepholm: 110
Mount Hyjal: 115
Twilight Highlands: 120
Uldam: 105
Vashj’ir: 140
Total: 590

Grand Total: 3428

As you can see, by completing the loremaster achievements, you will also get over 3000 quests. I suggest picking up Quest Completist (similar to Everyquest, but updated for Cataclysm and still being updated. Everyquest seems to have been abandoned) to help you find lost quests if you get confused or stuck. Good luck, and happy questing!

Комментарий от 833385

I've done Loremaster Kalimdor, Eastern Kingdoms, Outland, and a third of Northrend, also all of Cataclysm with an earlier alt. Outland is the hardest. Kalimdor, EK and Cata have easy to follow pathways that as long as you do the expected order of regions and quest hubs in the regions, you will get through with no major hassle. The parts of Northrend I've done so far seems similar. Only Loremaster of Outland feels all over the place.

First, soloing the other continents is reasonable; with Outland it's very difficult. I started Outland at 60th level and finished it at 82nd! I started doing almost all the quests necessary for Hellfire, but I couldn't complete without doing group quests. And tough ones to solo. This was a surprise, as I could always do enough quests in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms solo. I prefer working that way so I decided to move on to Zangarmarsh and come back, rather than getting a group together. I worked through Zangarmarsh fairly easily and did most of Nagrand out of order before Terokkar. Couldn't finish Nagrand. Still had quests missing and group quests I couldn't do yet. But at least by this time, I could go back and finish Hellfire. And so it went on.

You are not only expected to do two and three man group quests, in some regions these are 5-man quests, and rightly labelled. There are even dungeons that count! About halfway though Outland, I went on to Northrend and did Howling and Borean, which took me to 75th level. Surely you'd think I could come back and finish Outland now. But no. I worked my way up to 78th, taking on most of Blade's, all of Terokkar and Netherstorm, then most of Shadowmoon; but still I was blocked and needed help to get to the final section of Shadowmoon. I only needed help with one quest to get through but I still had a set of quests left in Blade's that I thought would be easy, the Ogrilla ones. And so they were, easy, until I only needed six. At this point I had only 5-groupers and dailies left. Rather than get help, which I probably should have, I decide to level even more, and did most of Icecrown and Hyjal, taking me to level 82. I was gonna spank those half-dozen Outland 5-groupers! And mostly I did. But even then there was one I still had problems with. Not because I died, nothing can touch you in Outland if you have Cata greens and blues, but I couldn't be in enough places at once. So even at 82nd level, I had to get help from a couple of 66th level guildies who were in the area.

The second reason Outland is tough is that it's not quite in order. For example, you can't finish Nagrand before starting Shadowmoon, because there are quest chains that move from region to region. Not just breadcrumb ones, either.

Third, it's tough because for some regions it's very tight. You can't choose to miss too many quests in Blade's or Nagrand; you need most of them.

Finally you need to make choices on the breadcrumb quests. For example to get to Netherstorm you have a whole set of mutually exclusive choices of breadcrumb quests to make, each counting for different things. So you have to be on your toes to give yourself the best chance.

No wonder you keep reading that people do this part of Loremaster last. Good luck to all of you doing it. Don't expect this continent to be easy to finish if you are trying it at 60-70th level.

Комментарий от dawgfan

Doing Loremaster of Outland has really made me appreciate the Cataclysm expansion and all the changes Blizz has done to questing. I mean, the quest design in Outland is horrendous! It seemed like Blizzard's approach to challenging leveling content was simply tediousness and not actually difficulty. Most of the quests involve gathering items off mobs with a ridiculously low drop rate (around 15% at its worst) or killing 20+ mobs in an area that only contains 13 of those mobs total (and with old school respawn timers, it takes a while). My advice to anyone attempting Loremaster? Start in Outland due to the initial burst of desire you'll have to finish Loremaster because after doing 1500 quests in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms, coming to Outland and going through a MUCH worse questing system is almost enough to make you want to give up : /

But hey, I guess that's what makes achieving Loremaster that much more satisfying :D

Комментарий от Luty

This, along with the other Loremaster meta achievements, will soon receive account wide progress. In other words, completing В Пустоту on one character and Тень Предателя on another will count.

Комментарий от SammichPod

When trying to get this achievement I found it impossible to complete it without having an add-on that tells you where to go to pick up quests. Before you try to get this I would advise that you are lvl 90, have a patience and have wow head open on your internet browser. I personally used Quest Hubber.

Комментарий от Grimmhilda

Here's my general notes:

1. As soon as you go to Shattrath, take the tour and then pick Aldor or Scryers. (Which one you pick doesn't really matter. They'll both give you enough quests.) You can't finish Netherstorm without one or the other. (Shadowmoon Valley can be done without Aldor/Scryers if you've already invested in 280 or 310 flight speed, but not with base flight.)

2. The group quests and some of the dungeon quests (but not the pvp quests) are required to finish chains, so have a friend/guildie with an 85-90 toon available to help with the groups and dungeons or be prepared to pick up groups as you go.
2.a. This also means that other people, the same people you might be depending on for a group, are going to be there. Don't be selfish. Don't hog things. It's easier to get a group together if you've been nice to people.

3. You won't really be able to do it in a linear manner. Terokkar and Nagrand require chains that involve both, and Nagrand is quite difficult to finish before you're friendly with The Consortium, which either requires quests in Netherstorm or a dungeon grind. (The two quests the Consortium gives at Friendly count toward Nagrand quests, so if you're a couple of quests short there, go back and check for them.)

4. Low droprates are a fact. They are the rule, not the exception.

5. You're going to do a lot of quests for factions with repeatable item farming turn-ins. (Consortium, Aldor/Scryers, Kurenai/Mag'har, Sporegaar) Generally speaking, you don't want to stop to farm rep with these factions until you're done with the achievement. You'll get a fair amount of rep from the quests themselves and the turnin objects you'll pick up along the way. It won't get you all the way to exalted, but why farm more than you really have to?

6. Most people use addons and macros to help with these. Personally, I didn't use them. If you choose not to use addons, be prepared to make notes and look at WoWHead a lot. There are a few easy-to-miss lines that pick up from some random guy in some random place or from a dropped item. Sometimes, these will be somewhere where another quest takes place. Sometimes, they won't. It's best to leave these for last, lest you miss a breadcrumb quest, which brings me to...

7. Breadcrumb quests are your friends. This is more true of Outlands than most other places. (This is why the achievement is easier to do with a fresh alt who hasn't done any leveling in the area than it is to do with a levelcapped toon who's already partially completed some of the regions.

Hope this helps.

Комментарий от skreft

Between the breadcrumbs and the 'Simon' quests in Blade's Edge, this was a beast to get.

Комментарий от Dwebbris

Two words: Quest text.

Reading it might just save you a lot of searching WoWHead :P

Комментарий от Waterfuzz

You better be prepared for this one. Personally, I found this particular Loremaster to be the most annoying and tiresome.

Комментарий от kelloggs9

DON'T SKIP QUESTS THAT LEAD INTO DUNGEONS! I kept dropping these quests, and they are crucial parts of the chain.

I made the mistake of dumping these quests, figuring that it would not count towards the quest counter for that zone anyway. In reality a lot of quests have a dungeon component at some point, and you have to complete it in order to continue the chain.

Комментарий от Doctapown

If you decide to do loremaster of outland beware. This zone will give you 100% cancer due to couple of things. Quest items have low drop, active quest items have long cd (like srsly 30s cd?) respawn times of creatures is long (not everywhere thank god), you will travel across whole map like dumbass back and forward. In EK and Kalimdor i was able to do 40quest/hour, here its like 20q/hour.

Комментарий от CheckDirEinenAb

This is by far the hardest loremaster achievement, but still quite possibly!

After a long painful time and lots of researches while doing that i got the following advice:

1. Get a useful quest tracking addon! I highly recomment the addons "Wholly" and "Grail". It's may not the best one, but helped me out a lot!
2. You need to do almost ALL quest in each zone. So you better do the single questing areas in the correct order to unlock all questchains. (just move on by the level requirement)
3. If you are stuck in a zone (you WILL get stuck in Terrokar for example), dont worry or waste your time. Get to the next higher leveling area. Some questchains are really weird and give you credit for another zone, or rather send you back. (such as: Terrokar -> Nagrand -> Terrokar)

Комментарий от R1NN1

1120 quests in total as a Horde goblin. Now after completing Loremaster of Outland and Loremaster finally, I have to say that this was indeed the WORST of all to accomplish... I did this as lvl 110 max.

For example Blade's Edge took about 10 hours to finish due to that Apexis Shard stuff. The quests forced you to grind them a lot and one quest might have taken 30 minutes to complete. I would recommend starting the journey to Loremaster from here. Very bad drop rates as well as I had to kill 80 ogres for example for one quest and just one item. Some had very long animations to wait. Yet some games, where you had to take information from YouTube. A lot of time went to gathering data in order to complete the quests... Yet some of the quest scripts did not tell how many of the items you should grind, so it was kinda painful.

Shadowmoon Valley took about ~8-10 hours. Most of the time went to visiting dungeons and flying around from zone to zone... Yet the David Wayne stuff were kinda horrible, since you need to get some profession stuff like Heavy Knothide Leather. Not many players responsed to chat, when I asked about Leatherworking. Made it to slow down. Akama's ending was very lame. Go to this zone after Blade's Edge.

Terokkar was boring, pointless and too much time-taking due to low drop rates with the Skettis items the zone all in all taking about 8 hours. Yet some slow escorts. I remember rageing here in the zone chat due to low drop rates. Take this zone after Shadowmoon Valley.

Netherstorm was quite easy and fast took about 5 hours. You have to complete the City of Light quest in Shattrath too in order to continue the storylines. Remember to open the box you get (before) in that final Socrethar quest in that place, where you kill the boss. You can open the box after killing Socrethar as well. The most "difficult" part was to find The Violet Tower storyline ending NPC. It's in the top of the tower.

Nagrand the ending (the last storyline) had to fly from A to B points about 2 hours, so kinda waste of time. Otherwise pretty easy. Can't remember all since completed most a long time ago. At some point you had to visit Terokkar to get storylines continued (Birth of Warchief).

Zangarmarsh was easy just following and doing quests. No need to go into dungeons. Not fully sure about this. I remember being stuck before to x/y amount of quests, but they changed them to storylines and I had then completed the Zangarmarsh achievement.

Hellfire Peninsula can't remember. It was done a long time ago.

My honest opinion is that the storylines did not unveil anything that special. Even the ending "scenarios" were really BORING. Even Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor had much cooler stuff there than in this boring world.

So, lore-wise this was really boring. If you are about to start doing The Loremaster achievement, start with this.

IN SHORT:

- Boring storylines with no cool Ending Scenarios
- Grinding items...WHICH does not belong to Lore in my opinion (We are just following the story... NOT ITEMS)
- VERY BAD DROP RATES!
- Forced to go into dungeons
- TOO MUCH FLYING FROM POINT A TO B TO C....

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