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Чтобы выйграть менее чем за 10 минут и получить один из критериев Ветерана - ачиву В пределах досягаемости нужен только 1 человек (по возможности), который захватит ближайщую мастерскую пока вы фармите 15 мобов для 2 ранга. После получения ранга бежим на мастерскую, берем РАЗРУШИТЕЛЬ (у него есть возможность просочиться через арку, тем самым скипнуть одну стену). Тем временем ваш напарник может защищать вашу машину, если это необходимо. Быстро, легко, эффективно. Более детально на видео (сделал с пугами):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2EAdoaEAY

Комментарий от spiritcrusher

в идеале было бы, переработать оло и тб под обычные бгшки

тогда будет хоть какая-то востребованность, иначе эти бг удел позно начавших играть ачиверов

Комментарий от Dmitvik

На ОЛО машинки нереально больно бить начали.

In technical terms, this achievement takes 250 to 300 hours to complete. Each game lasts 30 minutes with a 2 hour and 30 minute wait time between each battle (0.5 + 2.5 = 3, 3*100=300).

In realistic terms, lets assume that you are hard-core for this achievement and play 10 hours a day. In 10 hours it is possible to complete 3 games (maybe 4 give or take a few minutes). 3 games a day would mean that it would take 34 days to complete this achievement - still noting that you are working on this achievement at a hard-core rate. This also takes into account that you are winning every game, which on most realms is not realistic. Calculate your server's win-loss ratio (50:50 for example) and this could lead to a more realistic number of 64 days to complete.

So if your looking to complete this achievement, expect it to take at least 34 days.

Happy Achieving!

Комментарий от 267546

I highlty advise Blizzard to take preventive precautions against afk botting in wintergrasp to get this achievement, I'm not sure if they thought about it. But some vicious people could just bot in there, and even if they get 1 mark per win every 5 hours or so, their number of wins would increment. I hope you need like 1 HK or something to be eligible to win wintergrasp and not just sit in there.
Because sometime I see people not answering or anything, not mining either, and not afk, so I have no idea what they are doing and it came into my mind.

Would be the same for all others 100 wins achievement, they are very demanding achievements, if you can trick to get them it's quite unfair. Even if however hardcore achievements players would be advised to do it the right way in order to get the 500000 Hks achievement along the way, which can't be tricked.

That's the reason why IMO achievement like "didn't stand a chance" must not be nerfed. They hard enought to be done "along the way". The only fix required would be that the faction who benefit a lot of tenacity don't have advantage over this achievement, looks quite unfair.

Lastly they should really think about making the Grand Black War Mammoth purchasable with a High amount of wintergrasp marks like 2 or 3 hundred of them. But they either have to do it fast or never do it at all, because it would be sick if people buy their way to the mount once it loot, lets say 20k gold or something to the winner of the roll, then discover they nerf it someway.oo

Комментарий от Mechanical

I noticed today that despite winning lake wintergrasp I did not get credit for this achievement.

I joined late in the battle and probably did not manage to get any HKs before the battle finished, so that might be an extra requirement.

Комментарий от 491647

if you have tenacities of 7 that means you are overrun 8 to 1... how can you win ever ? wintergrasp is a good thermometer to see what faction rules the server... and prepare your luggage accordingly

Комментарий от 702651

Earned this achievement yesterday, can't say how long it took but I have been playing WG since inception. I love WG

Комментарий от tialaramex

I finally finished Master of Wintergrasp a few days into Cataclysm, and Veteran was the only thing I needed after the Shattering.

With that in mind here are some thoughts for how you can achieve this in an era when WG will be underpopulated and may be dominated by twinked 80 alts who are there for the Honor or to make people QQ and not for victory per se. Because of underpopulation I assume you are solo unless otherwise mentioned.

(Cheese) WG sometimes won't let anyone play, all players are teleported out. It's because no-one on the opposing faction signed up. If you are defending you can still score despite this. Find enemy NPCs and just before WG starts, apply a DoT that will kill them. When WG starts, you are teleported out but the NPC dies, you are therefore a participant and can win. Wait just under thirty minutes then re-enter (if you re-enter too soon note how long the match has left, wait a few seconds less than that) and you will win before the teleport happens. I won twice this way (out of my 100 needed victories). There might be simpler ways, but at 2.5 hours between WGs who has time to experiment?
In general. Kill NPCs. With player enemies so few and scattered it will take too long to hunt and kill them. So don't race past NPCs as you would in 40v40 WG, stop and kill them. If the enemy are hiding, kill the four NPCs on Central bridge, they respawn, you rack up a lot of kills this way, and inquisitive opponents may come to see what's happening.
Whether attacking or defending your first goal is a vehicle, preferably a siege engine now that they're faster. That means ~15 kills. Get them fast. If there are others on your side, somebody should be doing this, but not necessarily everyone.
In an ideal world, you build your vehicle, destroy the objectives (three towers for defender, 2+ walls and the door for attackers) and win (after a few minutes wait for defender). With under-population it can really be that straight forward, the "enemy" may be looking for herbs, or clueless and represent no threat. But a bored level 85 arena team could show up at any time, plan to win before they do.
Keep an eye on the number of enemy vehicles, and on the map. Particularly if you're defending. One siege that you can't find will be the difference between an easy defence and a defeat. With so few players there's no such thing as "just" one siege engine

Комментарий от 292829

On Burning Legion EU there is about 3-10 people each side every battle so at least you can get some action.

My way of getting the achievement as a moonkin (85).

Defending:

Go to the southern central tower killing every NPC on the way (sometimes there are guards just outside the gate, kill these too).
Destroy all the tower cannons.
Go west or east for the next tower. I usually go east.
Again destroy all the cannons untill you are ready to drive the heavy vehicles.
Go back to the nearest workshop and cap it.
Create a demolisher (I'm still not sure if this is really better than a siege vehicle but you can start shooting from the distance and it has got two attacks instead of one).
Go for the towers, one after another.
When the towers are destroyed go back to the keep for the last few minutes to defend.

Warning: check the map and as soon as you will notice there is a vehicle near the keep and no one is defending drop everything and get back. It's still better to defend it for 30 minutes and win than loose and try to win it back next time. Vehicles are really easy to destroy so focus on them. Dots should do the trick.
Remember: without the vehicles they cannot do anything.

Attacking:

Go for the keep cannons and destroy enough to drive the heavy vehicles.
Get the siege vehicle from the workshop and go for the west or east wall.
When wall is down and you still have got the siege go for the next wall and then the main keep room.
If your siege vehicle has been destroyed (hopefully after the first wall) get the demolisher and drive it to the second wall but start shooting towards the main room gate - you can do it, just place yourself correctly and aim above the wall.
When the main room gate is down leave your vehicle and go grab the big orange ball inside.

If the enemy is not busy destroying the towers it's quite difficult to win with all the vehicles being so easy to kill. The best way to success is to have another team trying to get enemy's attention on the other side of the keep (and in front of the main room's gate). Of course if the enemies aren't stupid this will not work... but they usually are :)

Good luck and have fun!

Комментарий от Alfa

Since they changed the Tol Barad achievement from 100 to 25. They need to change this one as well. Doesn't make sense to change the new battle zone and not the old instead.

Комментарий от Preheet

Why isn't this achievement account wide? My alt has 86 wins, and my main has 2...

Комментарий от GoRozZo

To get an achievement В пределах досягаемости and win in less then 10 minutes you need only 1 friend (if possible, but you can easily do it with randoms). One guy is capturing workshop while you killing 15 alliance/horde npcs. Then you take vehicle and destroy all walls. Your mate meanwhile can protect your machine, if necessary.
More detailed on video (made with pugs):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2EAdoaEAY

Комментарий от pat33

For an easy farm

If your server has a very low participation on this bg: just have an external chrono on explorer "online clock alarm", queue at very last minute (do some other stuff)+ kill a npc to get rank.

If you wanna be sure connect your alt at 15 min before it ends check for enemy engines and tower or walls if none are touched just reconnect to another alt do some other stuff 10 min. reconnect 5 min before it ends

So 5 min work on this. Try to mill, mine saronite or read . Same with Tol barad

Комментарий от skyline33

Attacking
1) Kill ~10 adds at their base to reach First Lieutenant rank
2) Take control of the workshop and enter a siege vehicle
3) Destroy their walls into their base and capture the relic

Tip:
When in a Siege Vehicle, you can rotate between the foremost and middle seats to continuously attack their walls

Комментарий от Shogol

Copying my comment from Wintergrasp (Zone):

Time between battles is now only 10 minutes, intentional or bugged? Leaning more towards bugged since you can also use flying mounts during battles.

Would highly suggest doing this achievement now.

Комментарий от Elladaryn

After Wintergrasp was included in the pool of Epic Battlegrounds, the 100 wins can be earned by winning either in the instaced version or the in open world zone.

Nowdays, the open world Wintergrasp start much quicker, at every 55 minutes. And if you faction already controls the zone, there is a high chance you will not face opposition from other players when trying to win it (making this achievement more about investing time than anything else).

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