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Похоже для получения достижений гильдейских шаршей необходимо быть фул ги рейдом, а не 80% , как написано в подсказке.По крайней мере моя гильдия когда убивала боссов СБ с 1 человеком не из ги, в ачив ничто не шло, потом в КТК были все наши и достижения засчитывались. Возможно баг, трудно сказать.

Комментарий от jami

20 из 25 игроков должны быть в составе гильдии. Только тогда будут засчитываться гильдейские достижения, и будет идти опыт/репа.

Комментарий от SinnerSP

Репутация превознесение нид как всегда?)

Комментарий от worven

Странно, почему не указана репутация требуемая для покупки маунта ?

Комментарий от 1104261

Я считаю лучше выбить Пепел Ал'ара чем заставлять всю гильдию идти в эти рейд когда ни кто не знает тактику и вайпатся на ластах.

Комментарий от Ernold

Подскажите, пожалуйста, чтобы получить достижение, нужно идти в рейд с 8 или 20 людьми из своей гильдии (на 10 и 25 сложности соответственно) или достаточно, допустим, пойти в рейд с тремя людьми (при этом все из вашей гильдии)?
UPD1. Только что нашёл ответ на свой вопрос.

It's not 80% of the raid; if you go in there with 5 people all from your guild you will not get the achieve. You need 8 on 10-man version.

Так что, если кто не знал раньше, нужно именно 8/20 на 10/25 уровне сложности соответственно.

Looks like we finally know how people will be getting the Dark Phoenix mount now. :D

And to get credit for the three raids required for this mount, the raids must have at least 8/10 or 20/25 of the people from the same guild. So pugs will not work (most of the time) for farming this.

edit: added emphasis on the attendance part since people will comment "OMGZ, this is too easy!"

Комментарий от 445986

Seems a bit easy atm no ?
I mean they implied the Phoenix will be hard to get, but it seems here that it will only require to do all the raid content. And as normal content is supposed to be done by nearly everyone that tries, it seems a bit odd. :-O

(I'm not complaining that "zomg too easy", just noticing ^^)

Комментарий от zanath

as this is a guild achievement, would every player in the guild get the dark phoenix or only the people that did something for the achievement?

Комментарий от 221517

it's also probably going to be this way that, if u leave the guild, you also lose the mount

i dont think u will lose the mount if u leave the guild because u learn it its not in ur bags

Комментарий от 578455

It would seem that you only have to kill all bosses as a guild (as opposed to doing some crazy achivement related to the boss) for it to unlock. Now the question is: let's say you have 3 10s progressing the same night, group 1 is working on Blackwing, group 2 is working on Throne and group 3 is working on Bastion... Will the drake be unlocked? Or you need the same group (let's say group 1) do all 3 raids?

edit: since some people seem to not understand what I imply with 3 groups... all 3 groups are 8/10 from the same guild.

Комментарий от 267279

I think that they should make it so that if you have purchased this mount (or any guild reward item) and leave your guild that the item simply goes inactive until your new guild has earned the reward/you have earned the reputation required with your new guild. You shouldn't essentially be penalized 3000g because your guild went inactive/fell apart etc.

Комментарий от Orrus

I don't get it, doesn't this seem incredibly easy to do? Didn't "Glory" used to mean hard mode? To me this looks like every single guild in existence will have all their members flying around on Phoenix's by next expansion. How does the Phoenix mount go from Legendary and only a couple people having one per servers, to every single person with a heartbeat having one?

This should require:
Guild Glory of the Blackwing Descent
Guild Glory of the Throne of Four Winds
Guild Glory of the Bastion of Twilight

See here for reference:
http://www.wowhead.com/search?q=glory#achievements

Комментарий от 280499

In response to wondering why something so easy can be given out freely perhaps it is not. The reward may be removed when the next tier comes out just like with Nax achievements and such. Not saying this -will- happen, but it's a viable possibility.

Комментарий от 700036

By the way if you are wondering how to tell whether your party is a guild party there is a icon on your minimap that says it at your mouseover

Комментарий от 204325

Also keep in mind these are not free they do cost 3000gold ouch...that's not the easiest to come by for some..

Комментарий от 244522

10 man Classic (AQ10): 8 Guildies
40 man Classic: 10 Guildies

10 and 25 man TBC raids: 8 Guildies

10 man Lich King: 8 Guildies
25 man Lich King: 8, 10 or even more(?) not sure, the achievement is the same for doing it in 10 or 25man.

10 man Cata: 8 Guildies
25 man Cata: 20 Guildies

Комментарий от 775439

Is it even possible to have reached exalted with your guild reputation yet?

Комментарий от 729598

wowhead u need to edit the description for this acheive in the guild achievs list u have thron of 4 wind listed 2x im sure some ppl out there might waste time doin it twice lol

Комментарий от 799895

I have noticed that the tooltip from the wowhead database is wrong.

The criteria is twice Throne of the Four Winds ! It is missing the The Bastion of Twilight

Guild Glory of the Cataclysm Raider

Cheers:)

Комментарий от eqsanctum

Planning on faction transferring your guild?
Here's some Information for guild leaders concerning guild achievements based on single and meta-achievement guild runs.

If you partially complete a meta-achievement and then faction transfer your guild, there is a very real chance as of the current patch that you will render your guild meta-achievement "inactive". What will happen? You will be shown as having received credit for x achievement as part of the meta-achievement progress with a completion date in the tooltip but no assigned character. It will also appear greyed out even though the tooltip will show a completion day in the meta-achievement. The single achievement will show up normally. The only fix available currently is to put in a GM ticket and make sure you explain it carefully and provide screenshots.

Personal dealings: It took 10 tickets to get this issued resolved after 3 escalations on february 27, 2012. Why so many? My description of the issue actually. Every GM thought I was speaking of my personal achievements. So guild leaders, if this happened or happens to you, it can be fixed. Be patient with your GM's try to be very clear on the issue and add screenshots

Комментарий от 838038

I see the point of the PvP players, however, it takes many types to fill a guild. As we all contribute in some form the betterment of the guild, we share diff. aspects concerning rewards...are hardcore PvP players not worthy of PvE rewards simply because they rarely quest or role play? But also...as the points been made...you need to earn guild rep before its possible to receive the mount .

Комментарий от 1017325

me and my brother are arguing on whether or not you have to be IN the raid to get this achievment. He says its a guild wide achievment and that you get it as long as the guild completes the raids, I say you have to actually be in the raid to get this achievment....am i wrong or is he?

Комментарий от 1030123

Problem is, once M.O.P. comes out, they are taking the ability to get the mount away from the achieve. Only those who have already gotten it will get it.

Комментарий от 1031035

Does anyone know if this mount is account bound for opposite factions? (If I purchase this on an Alliance, can I use it on my Hordes?)

Комментарий от shan750

remember that u need to be exalted to buy the mount... once your guild has the achiev

Комментарий от Spanky2k

Does anyone know if your raid group members have to be online for the 8/10 thing to count? My friends and I often do Cata raids for fun with 2-4 of us but our guild is just a social RL friends guild. Could we invite our alts who would be offline for the runs and still have it count?

Комментарий от 1457859

I have a quick question. Is it still required to have 8/10 people in the guild on the runs to achieve this mount? Even if you can solo them at level 100.

Комментарий от MadAltoholic

I have a question....

Our guild is new and one of our weekly events is to attain these legacy achievements...

We ran all three of the required raids for this guild achievement with a 10-man group (all 100's) and did not attain the achievement.. :/

So is the achievement bugged or do we actually have to run each raid with lvl 85 alts?

I guess the same question would apply to the Classic and WOTLK achievements as well (not keen on lvling an alt just to get achievements)...

OK-follow up

We ran the AQ20 and AQ40 raids on Monday and got the guild achievements for both. In doing so we found out a few things:

1. To get the guild achievement your group MUST consist of a minimum of 8 guildies for a 10 man raid. AQ20 was changed to a 10 man raid in Cataclysm so we qualified for the raids achievement by using our 8 man team.

2. To get the guild achievement for AQ40 we needed to run it with a 10 man group. AQ40 was changed to a 20 man instance which required the 10 man group.

3. If you run a heroic instance as a guild group (25 man difficulty) you MUST bring a minimum of 20 guildies to get the achievement. We believe this is where we didn't get the achievement for the Cataclysm raids last week. If you're a new guild or an older one cleaning up some stray achievements, best to run a normal raid for the guild achievement (requiring only 8 guildies), then run a heroic the following week to get the individual heroic achievements for each guildy.

4. Lastly, character lvl is irrelevant when doing a guild run for guild achievements. Spoke with a GM and he confirmed this. The only requirement to attain each guild raid achievement is to have the minimum number of guildies inside the raid at the same time. We had a 62 shaman and 3 100's in our 10 man group and we got the achievement. You may want to consider bringing specific classes to perform specific roles within the raid (we needed a frost mage to deal with Viscidus).

We'll be testing our lvl 100's in dungeons to confirm if the guild achievements for dungeons can be attained this way as well.... :D

Комментарий от Aaahead

Level 100+ guide to Слава рейдеру Cataclysm (гильдия) (which unlocks Поводья темного феникса at guild vendors) and Слава рейдеру Cataclysm (which awards Поводья дракона восточного ветра):

You can get the guild meta achievement in about 60-90 minutes, with a group of 8 guildies in 10-player mode, or 20 guildies in 25-player mode, while also getting the personal meta achievement for participants. Do all the raids on heroic mode. The 8 or 20 guild member minimum is required because 80% of players of a raid's maximum size must be guild members to get credit for guild raid achievements. Most of the strategies described work for solo achievement-seekers too, but a couple like Stay Chill and Aberrant Behavior may be a little tricky for some level 100s.

Твердыня Крыла Тьмы, entrance at 26.1,24.6 on the outside of Blackrock Mountain, on a terrace about 3/4 of the way up the mountain. From Stormwind, fly northeast.

Магмарь, Паразительный рейд achievement. Just kill him fast.
Omnotron Defense System (Чаротрон, Магматрон, Электрон, Токситрон), Ачив-о-трон achievement. Pop all cds and kill fast, and people shouldn't have time to be hit by Static Shock, Poison Bomb, Arcane Annihilator, or Flamethrower.
Малориак, Аберрантное поведение achievement. Start fight, don't get boss below 26% and don't kill aberrations. Wait until 12 aberrations spawn (3 at a time), kill adds within 10 seconds without killing boss, then kill boss. (If soloing and too hard on herioc, run out, change to normal, come back, kill the 12 aberrations within 10 seconds WITHOUT killing boss, run out to reset, change to heroic, go back in, and kill boss.) Macro to count aberation nameplates around you (press "v" to activate nameplates):
/run local t,c,p="Aberration",0 for i=1,10000 do p=_G if p and p:IsVisible() then c=c+(select(2,p:GetChildren()):GetRegions():GetText()==t and 1 or 0) end end print(t,":",c)
Атрамед, Молчание – золото achievement. Just kill fast, before gaining any "sound".
Химерон, Шум и ярость achievement. Just kill fast.
Нефариан, Дела семейные achievement. Jump into pit to engage boss, don't hit Onyxia, run around until you can hit Nefarion, damage Nefarion to around 45% WITHOUT DOTS then kill Onyxia (less damage is ok if you have trouble, but don't get Nefarian below 26%, and make sure to kill Onyxia before she reaches full energy. When Nefarian flies up and lava fills room, climb onto a column and kill the add that spawns on it, then damage Nefarian to between 26% and 49% health if not already done, then wait until lava goes away and WAIT UNTIL NEFARIAN LANDS (important!), then kill him.

Сумеречный бастион, entrance at 34, 78 in Twilight Highlands. Both the entrance and summoning stone are on a platform extremely high up in the sky at this location.

Халфий Змеерез, Единственный выход achievement. Start fight without hurting boss much, free 2 drakes and get them close together, kill them both within 10 seconds of each other, then kill boss.
Валиона & Тералион, Двойной дракон achievement. Aggro Valiona, she'll cast Затмение (heal if needed), Theralion will cast Шокирующее разрушение Dazzling Destruction, stand in a shadow pool to go into shadow realm, target and kill 6 Сумеречное исчадие twilight fiends as they appear (you can use a "/tar twilight fiend" macro because they're hard to see, or just aoe to kill them).
Элементиевое чудовище, Элементарно! achievement. Everyone stack in center of room, near edge of purple area, try to stay there entire fight, except to aggro mobs. Damage both Огнис & Акварион fairly evenly (when first dies, the other's health is added to last boss), do same with Аэрон & Террастра (if you moved, get back in position before killing), wait for stun to wear off and quickly kill Элементиевое чудовище without moving so only one ice pool forms under boss.
Чо'Галл, ...бездна заглянет в тебя. achievement. Just burn boss fast. If soloing, stay in close melee range (maximum melee range is no good) to avoid Обращение в веру mind control, and don't let your pet taunt him away from you.
Синестра No achievement is needed on Sinestra for the Слава рейдеру Cataclysm meta-achievement or the Слава рейдеру Cataclysm (гильдия) guild meta-achievement, so you can skip Sinestra if you want. The old Sinestra achievement Крутостью мне заложило уши can no longer be completed, and is now a feat of strength.

Трон Четырех Ветров, entrance at 36.3, 84.8 in Uldum, on a platform high in the sky. Someone posted (I didn't confirm) that once you enter 10N, you can't enter 10H, so double check your legacy raid setting before entering.

Conclave of Wind (Аншал, Незир, Рохаш), Прохладный прием achievement. Everyone go to Незир's platform, half stand near the wind bridge to Аншал, half near the wind bridge to Рохаш. Aggro Nezir, but don't damage him. Wait until everyone has 7 stacks. You may want a couple healers this fight. When you get 7 stacks, quickly kill Nezir, then everyone jump to the other two bosses (half on each) and quickly kill them. If you're soloing, check the achievement's comments for other strategies. If anything goes wrong but the bosses aren't all dead, just wait for them to heal up again and start over, or have everyone alive run out the entrance to reset the encounter.
Ал'акир, Наш ответ achievement. To get to Al'Akir's center platform, click the wind funnel in the middle of any of the outer platforms. Damage boss without using DoTs to 80% to start phase 2. Try to avoid Грозовой фронт wind funnels. You can damage boss a little but NOT below 25% (it's easy to damage him too quickly at level 100+ - avoid any DoTs). Wait until an add called Буревик spawns, kill it when it's next to boss, double-check boss got 30-second Ответная реакция debuff (if not await another Stormling), then quickly kill boss. At 25% health, phase 3 starts, you won't be able to attack for a few seconds as the platform shatters, then you finish off boss while flying.

Комментарий от Amashelle

Can anyone confirm if this achievement is still available? It does not appear in the in-game achievement window on any of my characters. Has it been discontinued with the Shadowlands release?

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Слава рейдеру Cataclysm (гильдия)

Добейтесь указанных ниже рейдовых достижений Cataclysm в составе группы гильдии.

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