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Решил сделать: в вармоде/без вармода в 2 окна со своим ордынцем :

1. Тол Барад есть в 4 вариантах , разный с разным временем старта (70 уровень вармод/без вармода , хроми с вармодом и без вармода)
2. Чтобы в осадные машины можно было сесть вы должны получить почетную победу за убийство персонажа противоположной фракции
3. Чтобы машина была в режиме осады надо её подкатить к шпилю и нажать 2 кнопку
4. Чтобы вам засчитали почетную победу не должен быть слишком разный уровень персонажей (70 уровень мейн убил драктира ордынца 60 не дают почетную победу в осадную машину сесть нельзя)
5.Чтобы сделать ачиву Тол Барад должен быть вашей фракции (в осадные машины могут сесть только те кто атакует)

Пробовал в обычном режиме 70 уровнем без вармода - мешали постоянно, даже если пишешь могут помешать, если Тол Барад не ваш, надо захватить для осадных машин , люди бегают по 1-3 до сих пор даже ночью бывают
Пробовал в вармод режиме - бегают меньше, но тоже бегают, пробовал днем постоянно мешают просто захватить Тол Барад в соло мешали, против меня каждый час был противник причем 1 , бегали по кругу захватывали базы бессмысленно

Решил сделать в хроми режиме с вармодом, зашел альтом 60 уровень драктир альянса и мое окно 60 уровень драктир орда
Хроми режим действует до 61 уровня (61 уровень уже отменяется, на 60 уровне можно)

Если вы до сих пор читаете это, дальше пойдут действия садомазогомоанонистического характера :
Начинается бой - мой драктир альянс полностью голый подбегает к ордынцу
Ордынец убивает моего альянс персонажа получает почетную победу
Садиться и гонит осадную машину к шпилю ставит в осадной режим (вторым окном ресаюсь альянсом одеваю шмот бегу к шпилю бью осадную машину)
Вторым окном бегу к второй осадной машине сажусь еду к этому же месту встаю в осаду
У осадных машин в режиме хроми 250к хп и бить их очень медленно по 1.30-2 минуты как босса
Дальше бежим ко второму шпилю (осадные машины не успели реснуться у первого шпиля, 2 машины, у второго шпиля также повторяем)
Время заканчивается тол барада - надо разрушить первый шпиль одной осадной машиной поставить вторым окном добить первый шпиль где вы били башню

Когда осадная машина в режиме осады уничтожает шпиль, осада ПРОПАДАЕТ и машина в ачив уже не засчитается

Вообщем сделал за одну битву 11/20 в Хроми с вармодом ПУСТОЙ ТОЛ БАРАД , двумя драктирами 60 уровня , был там один, спокойно сделал, хоть и альтом но ачива в мету мейну засчиталась

Незнаю почему не добавили как ОЛО в актуальный контент Тол Барад, наверное он слишком скучный! Всем удачи в получении) (с) Омикрончик

I think this is due to the lack of name change once an "Abandoned Siege Machine" has become commandeered. Also, once it deploys into the stable, static position to take down the towers, the name remains "Abandoned Siege Machine" then also. I expect a fix soon to convert of the name of Abandoned Siege Machines into Deployed Siege Machines once they are infact deployed, soon.

Комментарий от 541744

Tagging seems to apply to these siege engines.

I've noticed over a few Tol Barad battles that I do NOT get achievement credit for siege engines tagged by other raids. The target panel doesn't show the tag (the name bar remains red, instead of turning grey), but I only got credit for siege engines that members of my raid attacked first.

In most cases, this will be a minor issue, especially on low population realms where there may not be multiple raids. However, for higher population realms, if you get stuck in a small, partial raid, you shouldn't expect to get much credit for this achievement unless you focus on tagging before the main raid.

Комментарий от 1427526

Yeah I just tried every possible version of completing this.
As soon as the tower was downed the kills didn't count anymore, my friend with an alliance char couldn't deploy a new one at that spot, only to existing towers, so that sucked.
Also tried killing them while the ally dude was inside and riding around, couse I figured why not. Could work. ...but it didn't.

Комментарий от Selse

Since there seems to be some confusion as to whether this achievement is bugged or not:

When a siege engine is attacking a tower, there is a vehicle button option "Deploy Siege Engine." Once this is used, the player controlling the engine is ejected from it, and the vehicle begins attacking the tower autonomously. This is the engine that needs to be destroyed to get credit for the achievement. Killing the Siege Engine BEFORE it is attacking the tower will not gain any progress with the achievement. Hope that helps.

Комментарий от Constantime

The attacking team member must get one kill first in order to get into the siege engine. Once in range of a tower, the deploy button will work.

Комментарий от Raeya

Okay to be clear:
1) The siege engine must be activated by an Alliance & moved to a tower then deployed.
2) While you can kill the siege engines before they are deployed, they will not award credit towards Tol Barad Saboteur, but will give you credit towards Towers of Power.

Комментарий от frakbt

I submit they may have relaxed the requirements. I just did one TB and went from 4/20 to 15/20. Now, there were a lot of people on both sides, so it's conceivable our team did actually kill 11 that had been fully deployed; but I certainly did not tag anywhere near 11 myself. At most, I tagged two that were fully deployed. 11 feels like the number I tagged that included just being driven by Horde. I wasn't actively tracking it, tho; so I am unsure.

I will try to track it for a more definitive answer.

Комментарий от Andarist

You can actually solo this achievement if you got both a Horde and an Alliance toon.

If you want to do the achievement on your Alliance char, wait til Alliance controls Tol Barad. If on your Horde char, wait til Horde controls it. If you don't care, even better.
I will explain it in case you want to get the achievement on Alliance, of course you can simply swap otherwise.

1) Alliance controls Tol Barad. So Alliance defends, Horde attacks.
2) Park your Horde char near the northern bridge at the entrance.
3) Remove your gear at your Alliance char and wait til the next match starts.
4) Alliance will get ported to the center. Mount up and get to the bridge to engage the Horde NPC guards there.
5) Alt + F4 while in combat.
6) Log in with your Horde char and kill your Alliance char who should still be in battle with the guard.
7) Your Horde char can now mount siege engines! Grab one of the northwestern ones and drive it to the northwestern tower to deploy it there.
8) Mount up and move as quickly as possible to the southern group of siege engines. Get in one and deploy it at the southern tower.
9) Repeat at the northeastern tower.
10) Alt + F4 and log in with your (dead) Alliance char.
11) Wait til he's resurrected, mount up and get to the northwestern tower, put your gear back on.
12) Kill the siege engine there.
13) Proceed to southern and northeastern tower.
14) If your damage is decent, you should be able to destroy all 3 siege engines before one of the towers gets destroyed.
15) Since you were alive and actively destroying them, you will get 6 points for the achievement (being alive directly beneath a siege engine that gets destroyed gives 2 points instead of 1).
16) To get your 20/20, you have to repeat this process a few times. Of course it's much faster if you can simply bring a friend, because you can destroy them while he deploys the next and so on, but if not - this should also work fine.

If you are unable to see your other char in battle, remember that war mode on / off gets you to different instances of Tol Barad. This can be useful to find an instance that is controlled by the faction of your wish or simply to find another battle instead of waiting 60 minutes.

Комментарий от Triet

You can solo this achievement using class trials along with a max level main.

1. Make two class trials, one of your faction and one of the opposing faction. They can be any class, but mages are recommended as you can skip the tutorial by teleporting out.

2. Bring both class trials, along with your main, to a tower in Tol Barad before the game starts. Make sure they are all on the same war mode setting and your main's faction currently controls it.

3. Once the game starts, log on your class trial of your main's faction.

4. Immediately open a new client using the Battle.net App. Log into your class trial of your main's opposing faction.

5. Kill the other level 50 character. Now you can get inside siege engines. Go drive a couple to the tower and deploy them.

6. Log back on your main and destroy the vehicles.

Rinse and repeat until you've destroyed 20.

Warning: Your own faction tends not to like the towers being attacked and will screw you over even if you try talking to them before the game starts. I recommend just going to the south tower and doing it without saying a word. That way I ended up getting 4-5 siege engine kills a game rather than 0-1. They didn't notice what I was doing until they got the message that the tower was heavily damaged.

Комментарий от dawn22868

As of now (Shadowlands patch) destroying a siege engine awards only one kill.
So here's a strategy to get this achievement done solo in the Shadowlands patch in a total of 4 battles (~5 hours given that Tol Barad is controlled by your faction).
I did this on my lvl 50 mage with the help of my level 46 feral druid.

Shortly before the battle starts:
0) Make two sets (naked & geared) on the character you want to do the achievement with (A).
1) Get naked on A and park them in front of the eastern bunker where the siege engines spawn.
2) Alt-F4 and quickly log into your second character from the opposing faction (B).

With character B:
3) Kill A and get into a siege engine.
4) Deploy the siege engine in front of the East Spire.
5) Repeat for the West and South Spire.
6) Alt-F4 and quickly switch back to A.

With character A:
7) Wait for the rez, get dressed and destroy the deployed siege engines one by one (east > west > south).
8) Get naked, Alt-F4 and quickly swap to B.

With character B:
9) Kill A and deploy two more siege engines in front of both the southern and western spire.
10) Alt-F4 and quickly switch back to A.

With character A:
11) Wait for the rez, get dressed and destroy the two remaining siege engines.

I also tried to go for all 6 siege engines at once but the towers get destroyed too fast.
So trying to go for 5 kills seems to be the most reliable approach.
And keep in mind that it helps to have an SSD and addons disabled beforehand to reduce the load up and log in times.

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