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Во время боя босс вроде на 70 и 40 процентах окружает себя щитом и начинает спавнить бомбы с неба. Чтобы ачив засчитался нужно 20 раз кинуть в него этими бомбами. Аккуратнее, бомбы если их не успеть кинуть, взрываются очень больно.

Комментарий от 768852

Возможно, название ачива - отсылка к фильму "Семейка придурков" (The Stupids, 1996)

Комментарий от Daredevilch

Ребят, было у кого-нибудь, чтобы после кидания бомбы в босса на нём не оставалось дебаффа? Если да, то подскажите как с этим справиться

Комментарий от Fask

Было несколько неудачных попыток на препатче сделать эту ачивку. Из-за того, что всем понизили хп, а дамаг увеличили, 20й стак убивал босса. Делали так: в первый щит закидывали 10 бомб, потом своим уроном доводили до второго щита и еще закидывали 10. Он умирал на 20й бомбе.
Решили поступить по-другому: аккуратно снижали хп без дотов (на 76% он убежал в щит) и после этого начали его забрасывать. Получилось 11 стаков и 12 его ввел сразу во второю фазу. Нон-стопом закидали следом и получили заветное достижение. До того считали его невыполнимым, писали тикет, но, увы, близзы на него так и не ответили.

Комментарий от 1416458

Для выполнения соло 100ым уровнем.
Нужно приличную скорость ,бомбы лежат на земле до взрыва 3-4 сек. Мне 45% увеличения скорости (30% форма + 15% талант) еле хватало чтоб успеть добежать от одной к другой. Под спринтом получше. Так что озаботьтесь зельем и зачарками на скорость ,что было проще.

На 75 % бос окружается защитным куполом, начинают падать бомбы. Цель ачива закидать боса бомбами, чтоб на нём стакнулся дебаф 20 раз. Очень аккуратно просаживайте боса до 75 % , не оставляя никаких дот. т.к. под бафом от взрыва бомб по нему увеличенный дамаг.

И когда к вам побегут паки мелких мобов - первый пак снесите быстро, а на остальные забейте, они не несут много урона, просто мешают вам тыкать в бомбы и есть опасность задеть аоешкой боса, по которому увеличенный дамаг. у меня от 19ой бомбы босс слёг, так как я его задел до этого и ачива не получил разумеется. Ферал 620

Комментарий от eRmachdp

Никто даже не написал о таком важном моменте, как мультистрайк (мультиатака). Только что сделал группой, из 4 человек (можно и меньше). Как мы сделали:

1. Один стоит и держит мобов.
2. Остальные полностью раздеваются, до гола. Смотрите, чтобы мультиатака была на 0. Это важно.
3. Все трое раздеваются, доводим до фазы (75-76%).
4. Как только он уходит в щит, все закидываем бомбы. Мы успели кинуть только 9, после чего, он вышел из щита. Докинули еще 3 (всего 12 стаков).
5. Как только он словил 12 стак, он сразу уйдет во второй щит. После этого, докидываем 8 бомб. После того, как кинули 20ую бомбу, у него осталось 5% здоровья. Так что, смотрите, чтобы никто его не бил и не оставлял дотов.

Повторюсь, разденьтесь - и вы её сделаете.
Удачи

3.02.2015. Ермакшдпп-СтражСмерти

Комментарий от nekit46

Делал хантом, символ Отрыва + быстрая реакция (+60% скорости бега на 8 сек).
Автоатакой бил босса, на 75% он стал в защитный купол, вышел треш я их Шквалом убил чтобы не мешал мины подбирать. Начали появляться мины сделал отрыв к ближайшей мине и под ускорением по кругу закидывал его, главное с круга не сбиваться. На 35% я сделал на нем 20 стаков он всё еще был в куполе, добивать даже пришлось)

Комментарий от 1388106

6.2.2 очень просто делается. Делал в 2. Сливаем до 75% хп босса, 1 держит мелочь(урона с них не много, но мешают бомбы брать) 2 в щит закидывает бомбы, пока щит не спал, успел закинуть 12 бомб, аккуратно слива босса слабым демагом до второго щита, бросил ещё 8. У босса осталось ещё прилично хп, зерг и ачивка получена.

Комментарий от Boxofbeer

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Комментарий от RxMxAx

Очень помог Alt+Z (Убрать интерфейс) для выполнения ачива. Даже богомолы не особо мешали

Комментарий от TemaZpro

В нынешних реалиях выполняется просто, доводим босса до ~70% хп и он входит в щит с поглощением урона, скидывается очень много бомб, так что вы сделаете стаков 15 точно за первый щит, как я. Хп у босса будет ещё прилично, близзы наверное пофиксили урон бомбам, т.к. комменты выше дают знать, что они убивали босса, теперь же нет. Далее на процентах 30-40 босс встаёт в щит второй раз и добиваем стаки до 20, зергаем босса.

Комментарий от Emrays

В BfA щит сносится за 3 бомбы, поэтому на 120м сделать нереально.
Шмот снимал, маску вешал, ничего не помогает.
Стабильно 3 взрыва.

Dps the boss down to 65% and he will run away and cast a shield on himself he does this again at 35%. After he does this adds will appear, the tank should pick them up and stand near the boss. The rest of the group should spread out around the boss and wait for the bombs to start dropping. They take a few seconds to arm and during this time they can be picked up and thrown at the boss to break his shield and give stacks of Detonate. It will also kill the small adds on the tank if he's close enough. Hit him 20 times and kill him. Achievement earned!

Комментарий от 79637

Despite the achievement text you can have more than 20 stacks on him.

Комментарий от 1391089

As of 6.0.2 it looks like this may be undo-able.... either the bombs do too much damage or the boss has too little health, either way... no matter how we tried to cheese it or all throw bombs at the same time, he still seems to always die at 17 stacks. Item level on the characters doesnt seem to effect the bomb damage at all since we tried this on geared toons as well as naked

Комментарий от Bagins

After many fails i managed to accomplish the achievement. As it was said the bombs are doing huge damage to the boss so we tried to lower the damage as much as possible.
It was said that the damage from bombs is affected by crit from gear so 4 people in team were completly naked - just in case. What the 4 naked party members should take care about is throwing bombs anda avoid Натиск Клинка - nothing more. Don't be ashamed to stay with 15k HP since only damage you will take is Буран which will be healed by healer quickly.
The 5th person must be a healer - personally i think discipline Жрец is best choice (but Друид wouldn't be bad). He should take care of damaging the boss (untill Бастион shows up), healing team and aggroing incoming mobs by AOE ability (Кольцо Света works perfectly here).
We managed to get 21 stacks of Взрыв and waited after this about 3-4 seconds not to fail by killing the boss to fast (failed cause of this twice).

After this Вернуть отправителю poped up. :)

Hope these small clues will help some of you to get this achievment.

Комментарий от generalsnaz

Trying to solo this at 100, I've gotten close but once he gets to 19, he's nearly dead and if I toss one more bomb, he dies before it registers the 20th stack. There was only one instance he might have had enough health, but of course, I couldn't get to a bomb in time. Sigh... I'll update if I manage to pull it off.

Комментарий от Vampyrr

Did this at 100 as a hunter. The trick is to get as many bombs as possible in the first phase if you can get 11-12 bombs on him before second shield you got it. 10 or less and he wont have the health to survive I recommend 12 if you can as with 11 he had 9k hp left after bomb 20 so 1 more crit and I would have failed.

Комментарий от Neshner

Just soloed as a ilvl 638 Hunter. Still possible in WoD. Just keep trying! You will get it!

Комментарий от Eiwo

Just helped someone with it. We did have the problem with 18-19 stacks. (Doing too much damage with bombs alone)

I checked the logs for crits and multistrikes, and the problem was multistrike. Makes sense that it wasn't crit, since crit isn't something new.
I can imagine versatility also affects the bomb, but it's not really as strong as multistrike.

Conclusion
Try without multistrike

Комментарий от Hyuos

I was having trouble with this achievement, mainly because the boss had a tendency to die before he even reached 20 stacks. Here's some ideas that helped me to finally get this.

Preparation:
Bring a friend. This achievement can be tricky to solo during the two critical "shield" phases without someone / something keeping the adds off you. When I finally got this, my team was composed of myself (shaman) on bombs, warlock on bombs and VW tanking adds, and a healer.

Get naked (also, remove your toon's gear). It sounds like some stats might be increasing the damage caused by the bombs, so have anyone on bomb duty disrobe. For added insurance, remove unnecessary buffs too. In our case, the healer remained fully geared but didn't touch any bombs.

Stage 1: 100% --> 75%
I've seen conflicting information on this, but for me, the first shield consistently occurred at exactly 75%. Keep an eye on DoTs, pets, and auto-attacks as his health gets near 75%... Генерал Па'валак's HP is precious for this achievement, be careful not to cause more hurt than is absolutely necessary.

Stage 2: Shield #1
Pa'valak will move to a central position in the field and encase himself in the yellow Бастион shield. Mantid adds will swarm on the ground, have your tank round these up so you don't get dazed / overwhelmed. Airborne mantids will fly over the field and drop Осадные снаряды. These bombs are clickable for a short while after they land. Grab them and lob them at the boss to add stacks of Взрыв, the key to this achievement.

Space out around the boss so you aren't competing for bombs. The shield doesn't appear to have a timed element, and will disappear after it has received 720,000 damage. For me this was usually around 8-10 bombs/stacks.

Keep in mind that the bombs have a limited duration during which they can be picked up. Once they are no longer clickable, they'll explode. Just be careful if you opt not to bring a healer.

Stage 3: Shield Down --> 45%
Controlling this stage is what I think helped to secure this achievement for me. After the first shield disappears and the boss is exposed, there should still be bombs on the ground. Use these to continue adding stacks, but be aware that while the boss is vulnerable he'll receive substantial (and increasing) damage from the bombs. Pa'valak will initiate the second shield when his health reaches 45%. Try to get the boss close to this with bombs, but be careful not to overdo it.

If you find yourself without bombs to throw, keep in mind that his stacks of Detonate have a limited duration and will eventually fall off if they're not refreshed... get him to 45% (and the first bomb drop) before that happens.

Stage 4: Shield #2
Again, I've read conflicting information, but in my experience the second shield starts at 45%. Use the same strategy as in Stage 2 above.

Stage 5: Moment of Truth
The second shield will probably disappear before the boss reaches 20 stacks. I think for me it was around 16-17. Use your judgment on the final bombs. If it looks like you can safely get to 20 stacks without the boss dying, then go for it. If not, wipe and try again. (Keep in mind, if the 20th bomb causes his death, it won't count towards the achievement.)

Get to 20 stacks, kill the boss before they fall off, and celebrate never having to attempt this again.

Комментарий от Alfa

For level 100/6.0 patch.

For a little extra speed, get out your Горенское облачение toy or even some Зелье скорости.

What I also did is took off every gear piece that had critical strike and multistrike, as I noticed bombs are affected by this. Which also helps keeping the shield up longer. You need about 10+ before the last shield comes at 45%.

I did it on my hunter with Posthaste to get a speed burst. I also have engineering so I used my belt speed burst once-hoping it didn't malfunction and got all 20 bombs with like 20% health left.

Another thing, if you have enemy frames on, turn them off. I had trouble clicking on the bombs and instead clicked on the adds.

Комментарий от Alzeimexia

This is achievable as of patch 6.1. The boss no longer dies due to bombs at or before 17 stacks. I was able to get to 23 stacks with plenty of room for more without trouble on my first attempt.

Good luck!

Комментарий от Crack94

found good trick when collecting the bombs - stand still in one place and wait for the bombs to fall near you at range yard of 20 max. don't run in circles thats the worse way - i talk from experience xD with my tactic you should be able to collect 25+ stacks even tho the achive only require 20 ;)

Комментарий от plokmijn12

Easily did this as a "716" Ret Paladin.

I unequipped all gear except Calamity's Edge and Mark of Supreme Doom (for the speed bonus), as well as having both Glyph of Mass Exorcism and Pursuit of Justice.

I was able to get in 15 bombs before the first shield faded, at which point it was just a matter of time before I finished the last 5.

Be sure to keep at least 3 HP at all times (with MoSD and PoJ I was running at 152%).

Комментарий от Boxofbeer

Return to Sender https://youtu.be/KbuDs-GXrjU?t=65

Комментарий от arednie

To solo this at 100: shift v so the bombs have green labels. Ignore adds, they will blow up on the bombs you likely miss. Have ways to heal yourself. Good luck.

Комментарий от Arrannin

This is a refference to Elvis Presley song - Return to Sender. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IV0ymXfbEo

Комментарий от FaeriePuff

So I tried doing this and while my tracker said the criteria had been met and the boss could now be killed, I didn't get the achievement. Confused on what happened.

Комментарий от Yoduh

I could not do this achievement in BFA at 120 on my mage no matter what I tried. Even with all gear off and with rez sickness, 3-4 bombs thrown and the shield would go down. I had to log on with another character I had at level 102 (monk) and I did it no problem first try (without rez sickness and all gear equipped btw)

Комментарий от ExoKalork

This achievement does not seem to be possible right now because of the damage amount from a lvl 120, even with all gear off. (8.1.5)
I've sent a ticket to ask, I will edit when I get an answer.

Комментарий от oxygenxo

While it is impossible to do it on level 120 due to very high damage of bombs, the one can use Party Sync and create a party with lvl 100 character. Worked for me :)

Комментарий от Haflo

This is now soloable at patch 9.0.1
Went in with a naked mage lvl50 , took him down to 75% with arcane explosion and he went into shield mode - i stayed in one area and waited for bombs to drop - got him to 9 stacks on the first round.
Shield breaks - got him to 26% with arcane explosion - he went into shield mode , got 19 stacks before shield broke , and got the last one after.
Bombs do not damage him anymore like they used to

Комментарий от TheSpanishInq

Note - Shield only lasts for 1 minute each time even with zero damage done. You need to collect and land 10 bombs on him in that time. You can't take your time and simply select those that land close to you between waves of adds. The shield will drop and you'll have no more bombs.

Комментарий от xLunacyx

In Dragonflight as a lv70 caster, your punch will deal about 156k of his 343k hp, but I only seem to be able to get 18 stacks at before he stops his shield, and accidentally clicking him will definitely overkill him.
Get him to 5-6 stacks, then hit him again, he should live and go into another shield phase.
You can also try to use Полная усадка to poke him down to 65% more precisely so he has more hp when you do the 2nd hit. Cancel the mouse-icon buff once he phases so you can move to the bombs quickly.

Комментарий от bugbug312

Pretty easy to solo during patch 10.0.5 as a 70 BM Hunter. These are the steps I took:

1. Get naked before hitting him. I also dismissed my pet before engaging. One punch brought him down to about 9% health for me, your mileage may vary. Squishy classes probably have more wiggle room I'd assume.
2. Don't hit him again. He immediately does Bulwark.
3. Pick up the bombs using the interact button that was added in DF! Makes this so much easier. Before I tried that, it was a nightmare trying to click through all of the adds to get a bomb.
4. You don't have long in between the bombs landing and when you can pick them up. Also, you don't have long to hit him before Bulwark expires either. You do have to be a little quick doing it. It helped me personally if I kept my camera angled at him while picking up a bomb.
5. Once he leaves his first Bulwark, he pretty much immediately does another Bulwark since he's below 35%. No need to bring him to 65% and then down to 35%.

Комментарий от ShutterBun

Can be soloed in patch 10.1.0.5 Here's how I did it on a level 70 warlock:

1. Get naked
2. Engage boss and take him down to 75% (I used Drain Life for about 2-3 seconds. It's a good spell to use because you can stop as soon as he phases without fear of over-damaging)
3. Pick a spot about 10-15 yards from the boss and wait for bombs to drop nearby. If you're running toward a bomb that landed 1 second ago, you're too late. Wait for the bombs that are just about within arm's reach. Throw the bombs at him, and he'll get a stack for each one. If the adds are becoming a nuisance, feel free to take some of them out with some splash damage from the bombs as well.
4. I ended up getting 9 stacks on him before he phased again and his shell was gone. IMPORTANT: there will still be some bombs on the ground during this period, so grab as many as you can before they despawn/self destruct.
5. Eventually there will be no more bombs and he's without his shell, so take him down to 30% (again, I used drain life)
6. Same as before, keep throwing bombs until you get to 20 stacks.
7. Kill the boss in the style of your choosing.
8. Profit

Note: if you find that you've run out of bombs, he's already burned both of his shells, and he's not at 20 stacks, you can reset the fight by simply running away, back up the hill. (you can't suicide off the cliff). Once you get far enough away, he will stop chasing, despawn, and reset after about 2 minutes.

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