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Фармил диномантов в надежде полутать книги, убил порядка 50-60 штук. Петы упали один за другим 4 разных, а книги в ачив не одной не получил, также выпало около 40 костей. Времени ушло примерно 1-1.5 часа. В итоге считаю, что ради книг не стоит останавливаться на фарме этих мобов, получили петов и можно идти фармить троллей в За'Туале.

Комментарий от albukerque

Аукобарыги меня сейчас заминусуют, но КУПЛЕННЫЕ НА АУКЕ/С РУК КНИГИ НЕ ЗАСЧИТЫВАЮТСЯ В АЧИВУ
(с) Английский вовхед

Комментарий от Hammerpal

Не заморачивайтесь на фарме этих книг - делайте дейлики и книги обязательно вам упадут.

Комментарий от Kambalala

Вам могут упасть 2 одинаковые книги подряд. То есть то, что вы выбили одну конкретную книгу, не означает что она не может упасть вам снова.

Комментарий от 596424

Самая сложная ачивка из всей серии

Комментарий от Fenix7x

Возможно кому то будет полезен опыт фарма и прока.
Репутация давно превознесение с Армией Кирин-Тора, дейлики все сделаны (для тех кто планировал закрыть достижение за время фарма репы и дейликов, удачного прока), и пошло время фарма Библиотечная карточка зандаларов.

Убито овер 2,5к зандаларов (преимущественно в районе ЗА'ТУАЛ), выбито помимо кучи зелени, тряпок и гармонии:

Зандаларский дневник в железном переплете x 7 шт
Окровавленный зандаларский дневник x 3 шт
Потертый зандаларский дневник x 5 шт
Промокший зандаларский дневник x 7 шт
Изорванный зандаларский дневник x 1 шт (долго ждал я этого прока).

Комментарий от Sephirosu

все дневники упали порядком 10-15 шт каждый, Зандаларский дневник в железном переплете нету ни одного дропа....
5ый день усиленного фарма по всем троллям на острове.

Комментарий от Hunto4ka

Часто книги падают из сундуков, которые еженедельные и стоящие в конце прохождения сокровищницы, а так же с боссов которые призываются по квесту Лучшие бойцы Властелина Грома и в рейде Престол Грёз с зандаларских треш-мобов(N) первого крыла.

Комментарий от EvilChester

Все книги получил как то в процессе прокачивания репы,оставалась одна Изорванный зандаларский дневник. Почитав все коменты,всё такие сделал по своему. Пошёл делать достижение Объединенная мощь и там собирал мобов,по 5-10 шт. убивал и лутал,с 3-4 такого пака упал уже нужный фрагмент.Возможно просто везение. Ретриком 562 паки убивались за 3-5 сек.Удачного вам дропа)

Комментарий от KoLToN

Почитав комментарии, пошел фармить книги вначале в За'Туал. За 20 минут выпали 2 Зандаларский дневник в железном переплете и 1 Промокший зандаларский дневник. Решил снова полазить по Wowhead и посмотрел с кого дроп более всего. Отправился на Пристань бушующих волн и начался фарм. В итоге за час выбил 2 Изорванный зандаларский дневник, 1 Окровавленный зандаларский дневник и 1 Потертый зандаларский дневник. Желаю всем удачи в фарме =)

Комментарий от Nimsi

Делал ачив У меня есть ящер цвета кости, а чего добился ты? монко-танком и собирал по 3-4 стака мобов (все, что было в пределах видимости) естественно агрились и диноманты. Итогом этого стало то, что я за время сбора костей полутал 3/4 книги, оставалась только книга в железном переплете. Недавно все же собрался доделать этот ачив и выбить последнюю книгу, настроился на очень долгий фарм, пришел на остров грома в район За'Туал, а книжка взяла и упала с 1го убитого моба.
В итоге ожидания и подготовка к фарму не сошлись с реальностью и ощущение осталось непонятное...

Комментарий от Megapyhar

все очень просто. заходите в престол грез чистите треш до 1го босса. лутаете - выходите из инста - резет и повторяете. лучше делать в 10-ке нормал чтоб полегче было. любой 100й левел 700+ итем левел очень легко убивает мобов. шанс книг в инсте выше чем на улице. каждые 2 рана дают книгу. удачи

Комментарий от hadli

Книги не обязательны к прочтению, достаточно просто слутать их в сумку

Комментарий от JackNeft

Почему никто не пишет о том, что книжки очень атмосферные? Приятно читать кусочки лора зандаларов.

I just looted Промокший зандаларский дневник on the Остров Великанов off of a Зандаларский диномант, the same mobs that drop the Zandalari pets, Зандаларский ногокус, Зандаларский пяткогрыз, Зандаларский пяткохлыстик and, Зандаларский пальцегрыз, and it did count toward the achievement Библиотечная карточка зандаларов, so they obviously come from more than just the Остров Грома.

Комментарий от zaheer12a

I got Потертый зандаларский дневник from Найденный сундук and it counted for the achievement.

Edit: Изорванный зандаларский дневник was in another coffer and got me the achievement.

Комментарий от Aesiria

I guess you can get this from any troll mob and additional sources(according to other comments here).

I've looted three of them - Iron-Bound Zandalari Journal, Waterlogged Zandalari Journal and Torn Zandalari Journal - from trolls in Za'tual.

Комментарий от 418077

It should be noted that trading these or buying them does not get you credit. My husband got one today and traded it to me to see if I'd get credit, I did not.

Комментарий от 1105642

I'm an alliance player, and have been farming my Black Prince reputation in Zeb'tula (north of Stage 1 Isle of Thunder). You will find Zeb'tula Spearanger's that throw spears as long as they're above 50% health, and Zeb'tula Alchemists that, when pulled with a large amount of them, can do a fair amount of damage with their thrown potions (which I noticed could not be interrupted).

There is also Zeb'tula Beastcaller's who patrol with two or three dino pets.
And of course the Zeb'tula Stoneshield's who go into a Barrier Stance, and take less damage from the front.

These journals have dropped off these mobs. Proof: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/Byst/simple

I have not farmed in any other locations besides Zeb'tula as no Horde were around this area. Also, this is a great location to farm Ключ от дворца Лэй Шэня. And if you're really into it, use a Зелье удачи to make it worth the while!

Комментарий от 1048792

Farmed all 5 of the journals in about 4 hours. I did farm the zandalari mobs in the Stage 2 (live server).

Комментарий от sTyLnK

The million dollar question is, what purpose do these cards serve being able to trade or sell them on the AH? There isn't any use for them outside of the achievement, an achievement in which you have to actually get them to drop yourself to get credit. Sometimes Blizzard makes me wonder. lol.

Комментарий от ComaCanadian

From what I can tell, if you want to read them in chronological order. The books go as followed

Окровавленный зандаларский дневник
Промокший зандаларский дневник
Зандаларский дневник в железном переплете
Потертый зандаларский дневник
Изорванный зандаларский дневник

I quite enjoy all these nuggets of lore. Considering before this patch I loathed troll content, this has really made me go back and read some stories.

Комментарий от Danshot

Can everyone in a loot group this or is it random?

Комментарий от Stryker666

These also drop off of trash mobs in Throne of Thunder!

Комментарий от Wobbit

if there's one thing my childhood has taught me it's
Having Fun Isn't Hard When You've Got a Library Card

Комментарий от 1061481

Due to the fact that Найденный сундук has nearly have a %100 drop rate for those journals around, this achievement is likely to be earned after Этим могу скатертью дорога.

Комментарий от FuxieDK

Do you need any specific quest to farm these journals?
We are now on Stage 3,74 on my server and I have never seen a single journal drop, and since the area have been active every single day since release of v5.2, I have killed a whole lot of trolls...

Комментарий от 775714

Individual books looted by different chars on the same account do not add together for the achievement (sadly).

On the bright side, it seems that each book drops 1 time per char, i.e. you cannot loot the same book twice.

Edit: Sadly, not true. One can loot the same book multiple times =(

Комментарий от Fylwind

According to the Wowhead data, the probability of getting each book is ~0.25%. Assuming this is correct, it's possible get some rough idea of how many trolls a typical player would have to slay (in total) in order to get all 5 books required for the achievement. The following list shows the percentage of the playerbase that would get this achievement after slaying the given number of trolls:

300 trolls: 0.9%, don't bet on it.
500 trolls: 18%, quite unlikely.
900 trolls: 57%, typical.
1500 trolls: 89%, quite likely.
2500 trolls: 99.0%, very likely.
5000 trolls: 99.998%, almost certainly.

For the math-oriented people: Let the probability of getting each book be p = 0.25% and assume that only one out of the 5 different kinds of books can be looted at a time. After having looted N trolls, the probability of getting at least one of every book (S) is given by (the proof is left as an exercise for the reader):

S = 1 − 5 (1 − p)N + 10 (1 − 2 p)N − 10 (1 − 3 p)N + 5 (1 − 4 p)N − (1 − 5 p)N

To get some numbers, just copy-paste this Wolfram Alpha input:
1-5*(1-p)^N+10*(1-2p)^N-10*(1-3p)^N+5*(1-4p)^N-(1-5p)^N where p = .0025 and N = 300

Note: If you find an error in this analysis please let me know!

TL;DR: Good luck on the achievement (you'll need it)!

Комментарий от Melandroso

Will everyone in your party be able to loot these?

Комментарий от Tareth

You can safely vendor the books after you loot them. Looting the item is what counts towards the achievement progress, and it's not required that you keep it.

Комментарий от TGFseb15

It took me 6 hours of pure grind spread out over several days to get all the journals. My main victims were Stoneshields, Jaguar Warriors, Beastcallers and Commoners with a God Hulk here and there. I used flasks, buff food and potions and I would say that they are worth it since they will boost your killing power and speed up the grind process. They should be cheap to get these days and gold, greys, greens, spirits and cloth you get will more than make up for them. You may hit a dry streak where no journals drop for hours but like any other grind in this game don't give up and it will eventually pay off. Get some music going, sit back and chill.

Also, I think that God Hulks are worth killing if you plan to mass pull. Even though they take a while to kill, buff you get lasts for 5 mins or 20 charges and does some nice damage when you have a mob bunched up around you (note that it has a tendency to aggro neutral mobs). Also don't forget about Zandalari potions, damage or speed buff is a convenient boost that requires almost no effort to get.

Комментарий от NewView

Are these journals unique, i.e. you can only get each of them once, or can you get each of them an unlimited amount of times?

Комментарий от IndigloRaver

Outside of the Coffers from Troves, the highest drop rate on a couple of these seems to be off (according to WoWHead) Zandalari Spear-Rangers.

The Spear-Rangers spawn with the pack of Zandalari that pat along the road around the Diremoor (between the Alliance and Horde bases, around the central area where the Mogu Stone Warrior guys are).

They pat alongside a Drakkari God-Hulk (90 Elite) who does a frontal Crash / Knockback. There's usually a couple casters in with them, so watch out for the Shadow Nova. Easily solo'ed by most non-caster classes, those without a stun or a 'hold 'em and get away to range DPS' ability might have a bit of trouble.

The pack itself spawns @ the stairs beside the Shado Pan Assault cavern, leading up to the troll area; they have a 2-4 minute respawn timer. One of the best ways I've found outside Trove Coffers to farm the books for Zandalari Library Card.

Keep in mind that this location is also a pat-path for the Mighty Devilsaur (90 Elite quest mob) and a 90 Elite Direhorn spawns at the same point to pat to the Shado Pan Assault cave. So watch where you stand when DPSing them down.

Комментарий от 843886

I've been working at this achievement for some time now. Mainly i've been just farming various mobs on the isle. From this i've only seen the Frayed and Blood-Spattered journals. More recently i've taken a different route and been focusing on farming the 3 different incantations- Incantations of Vu, Deng, and Haqin. Which are used to summon spirits to fight which drop a Fortuitous Coffer. There isn't always a journal in the coffer but most of the time there is. Not sure if it's just me or if each one drops a specific journal which is what i've seen myself.
Incantation of Vu - Iron-Bound Journal
Incantation of Deng - Waterlogged Journal
Incantation of Haqin - Torn Journal

Комментарий от Ilsk

I have been hunting these for quite some time. After looting multiple copies of Blood-Spattered Zandalari Journal, I decided to stop vendoring the journals as I got them. The journals started dropping one by one - the ones I still had not looted - and I could finally complete the achievement.

Комментарий от 1118132

This is a fail achievement. The developers have no business using RNG for an achievement except for Feats of Strength. If you did not get this achievement during Phase 1, you are doomed to hours and hours of mind numbing grinding. I am done with every achievement in the zone, have been, but still cannot loot a blood-spattered journal. My bank is full of all the other journals. Put in a ticket, like I did, to tell them to increase the drop rates.

Комментарий от 1061481

Ok. You want to do this achievement and do not know how to increase your chance to loot these journals everyday? Here are the things you should do.

1. Do the dailies on the Isle of Thunder. The journals are tend to be dropped by the trolls on the island (altough with a really rare drop rate like %0.6 max), so while doing dailies it is probable to kill a set of trolls at least guaranteed in the second and third phase.
2. Kill Налак every week. With a very small chance it is seen that journals are contained in Наэлектризованная пригоршня монет.
3. Loot Сокровища Властелина Грома once every week to increase your chance to get Найденный сундук. Which the journals can be contained in these coffers with a probability of %3 which is pretty high.
4. If you kill the rares on the island, you have the chance to get Ключ от дворца Лэй Шэня which you can use to enter the solo scenario where you increase your chance to get more Сокровища Властелина Громаs. In the solo scenario try to complete it on time and try to kill the boss and try to loot the chests he has on its back and the chests on the stairs to increasr your chest to get new keys.
5. Another way to get the Найденный сундук item, you can summon the 3 bosses (Высекатель искр Ву,Главный кузнец Дэн,Хацинь из Сотни Копий) which have a %99 drop chance to get the coffer. Just be sure that you do not get into a party and be the only one who summons the boss because of the fact that with a dps char you can easily solo the boss and get the coffer for yourself.
6. Just grind the trolls in the whole island.

Happy hunting!

Комментарий от Shadowypain

Around (39,74) on the Isle of Thunder, is a large group of trolls. I actually got 2 books off of that giant group. Just go around that area and kill trolls while you wait for that group to respawn. Make sure you use defensive cooldowns to survive.

Комментарий от Furydeath

Been 4 days of farming for the last book I need. Sure is fun.

Комментарий от Furydeath

Drop rate will be uped on all the books in 5.3 woooo

Zandalari NPCs on the Isle of Thunder should now drop Zandalari Journals needed for the Zandalari Library Card achievement more frequently. The sell value of Zandalari Journals to vendors have been decreased to adjust for the increased drop rates.

Комментарий от 157913

As of 5.3, these can now also be found in the Shiny Pile of Refuse dropped by Oondasta.

Комментарий от 220991

Blizzard increased the drop chance for these so now it won't be that hard(i hope) to get that last journal needed for the achievment.

Комментарий от Mormolyce

If you have alts that spend time on Isle of Thunder you will likely get scrolls on them. Which is frustrating as the coffers are pretty useless to your alts seeing as this achievement doesn't have account wide progress. But you can actually ensure you get them on your main even if they're on the same account - group up with your alt, your main and one other character. Use the scroll on your alt and swap to your main - ensure that the other character survives through the swap to keep the mob in combat. I dual boxed another alt for the third character but you could ask a friend just as easily. A patient friend.

Fiddly and annoying, but at least you're getting your chance at a journal on the right character. I only have the Blood-Spattered Journal left and if I got it on an alt I'd just die :P

Комментарий от 607674

I know this achievement says you have to loot from trolls on Isle of Thunder. But in case anyone was wondering, books purchased off the auction house DO NOT count.

Комментарий от bcimhe

Stormsea Landing is the best place to finish this achievement. In about an hour of grinding, I had 5 of the books, including the last one I needed. Happy hunting.

Комментарий от 720666

I was able to get all the books needed to complete this in just under an hour by grinding the troll mobs at Stormsea Landing. Lots of trolls and fast respawn time. Popped a Potion of Luck for good measure and made out with a lot of gold and mats to boot.

Комментарий от Hrobertgar

I am curious if anyone else has experienced a possible location bias on the drops. The increased drop rate since 5.3 was welcome when I chose to farm to complete this. I only needed Waterlogged Journal and over about 1-2 hours over a couple days I looted:
5 Torn
3 Frayed
1 Iron-Bound
0 Blood-stained
0 Waterlogged
and about 10 Chests
and misc greens, etc

So I decided to farm more focused by the shore (where a programmer assigning drops might think things would get water-logged) and the next one that dropped was my water-logged :)

It could be a fluke, but given how many of the others I was getting by cycling thru repeating inland areas, I was just wondering if anyone else had a similar experience.

Комментарий от swedengamer

In about 2-3 hours of grinding mobs at Stormsea Landing at Isle of Thunder, I got 3 Iron-Bound Zandalari Journal, 2 Waterlogged Zandalari Journal, 1 Frayed Zandalari Journal, 1 Blood-Spattered Zandalari Journal and 1 Torn Zandalari Journal. This might just be based on luck but I did get all 5 books for the achievement in one spot.

Комментарий от nelsoncs

If you use the addon Rarity, you can track how many chances you've had to obtain the books. Here's the NPC ID list taken from the loot table for Torn Zandalari Journal:

70529,69474,69298,69517,69531,69475,69198,69657,69527,69297,69295,70290,69518,69666,69507,70286,70521,69482,69195,70236,70328,69171,69294,69223,69225,69170,69296,69224,69379,69865,69144,69909,69302,69285,70291,69254,70401,69255,69532,69397,69065,69286,69269,69200,69281,69665,69390,69559,69256,69272,69524,69925,69155,69154,70557,70230,69300,69910,69906,69927,69136,70176,69916,69663,69455,70285,69538,69899,69301,69388,69905,69312,69911

Комментарий от adelaespriella

ARRGG, I farmed for 1 hour and got Потертый зандаларский дневникx10 and nothing else

Комментарий от Chomaro

Can anyone confirm that these are still dropping post 6.0 and that it may still reward the now-FOS if you finish the now hidden criteria?

(I managed to miss that the criteria and title would be changed post 6.0 and am still missing one book).

Комментарий от skag

Weird thing: I had a Найденный сундук in my bags, which only had a couple of Elder Charm of Good Fortune left in it (already had 20 of those). I also had one of the books in my inventory. At the vendor I sold the book and when I clicked on the coffer again, the last book I needed for the achievement popped up. I'm very sure it wasn't there when I first opened it

Комментарий от KrystalDragon

I'm not certain if Bliz upped the drop rate, but I farmed all 5 books in about 1.5~2 hours. I received numerous duplicates and tons of greens/cloth to auction off. Bring a mount to sell stuff to, your going to need it!

My method: If it was vaguely troll-like, I killed it. If it said it had something to do with a beast (beast master, beast tamer, etc.) I went out of my way to kill it as they seem to drop things more often. I spent about half an hour in the Za'Tual area, and then would move the areas next to Nalak and spend half an hour there, back and fourth just for variety. There are little potions that sparkle and some of them give you a speed boost. So I clicked those if the were convenient.

Happy farming!

Комментарий от souxsie

easiest way to farm all four of them- go to thrown of thunder, clear first area, rinse and repeat. confirmed that all 4 drop from this method

Комментарий от Broxximar6

Maybe someone already wrote it here, but there is also several groups of Zandalari trolls on Isle of Giants (North of Kun-lai summit). They also drop these books, and it seems to me there is better drop rate. Maybe I was incredibly lucky, but I got 3 different books after killing around 20-30 of them in less then 3 minutes. Got them when I was farming battle pets, that drop from them also.

Комментарий от deepspace8

I got this achievement while in the Throne of Thunder, so keep that in mind if you don't care to quest on the isle and are just want to grind in the raid.

Комментарий от Moodknight

Got all of these books on Isle of Giants while farming for the 9999 bones in about 4-5 laps. These do drop from Zandalari Dinomancers, so dont skip the ship!

Комментарий от JGladiator

I found that farming zandalari prospects is a good way to find the books as there are 8 of them grouped up and other mobs are nearby as well; most areas have zandalari mobs spaced out too far for effective farming. I would recommend killing these every time you are near Za'Tual. This gives you decent odds of getting a book drop. I was able to get this achievement in 2 days with this method, though I didn't log how many I killed.

Комментарий от Omgwtfpwnoobsftw

Completed in 9.2. Farm the first room of Throne of Thunder. Do not kill the first boss. Can be done 10 times an hour. DO NOT DELETE any books from your bags. The books prefer not to drop duplicates, so your odds of getting that 5th book increase the more books you have. I probably farmed ToT 10 times for this achievement, got the first 4 books over and over, but kept deleting them each time. As soon as I stopped deleting them, I collected the first 4 all over again, and then got the 5th one for the achievement.

Комментарий от Draculass

Now wait a minute. There is a bit of misrepresentation with this achieve, which specifically states that the books must come from the Isle of Thunder. I got four of them from the Isle of Giants and got credit for them. I bought the fifth one (Frayed) on the AH and did not get credit for this book.

Ссылки

Библиотечная карточка зандаларов

Соберите редкие книги зандаларских троллей, находящиеся на острове Грома.

Критерий

	Зандаларский дневник в железном переплете (1)
	Изорванный зандаларский дневник (1)
	Промокший зандаларский дневник (1)

	Окровавленный зандаларский дневник (1)
	Потертый зандаларский дневник (1)

Руководства

Wowhead's Isle of Thunder Content Guide

Библиотечная карточка зандаларов

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