Yano..I have enough trouble believing that hanging a carrot in front of my MECHANOstrider entices it to go faster. How the hell is whipping a piece of metal supposed to make it move faster?

Can I hang out my car window and smack the side of it to go faster?

lol

anyway, this is an excellent enchant, and probably a staple for any serious enchanter. One of the only truly coveted enchants, along with 15agi to 1h and Crusader.

Комментарий от 33648

I have the mithril spurs, the carrot on a stick, and the riding crop. I thought they would all stack, but they don't. I time my mount with a stopwatch and here is what I got. I repeated each measurement 3 times to make sure I could measure accurately:

riding crop + spurs + carrot: 6.62s 6.68s 6.64s
riding crop alone: 6.68s 6.62s 6.55s
nothing equiped: 7.37s 7.31s 7.25s

It appears that the items do not stack. Once you have a riding crop, you can just ditch all the other stuff.

Комментарий от 79761

does any1 know exacly how much this item increases mount-movement speed, preferably in % (:

Комментарий от skribs

My guess is it's the same as the run speed enchant, which is 8%. That's not a definite answer, just a guesstimate.

And Unitepunx, the spurs, carrot, and enchant don't stack. It was mentioned earlier.

Комментарий от Soundfx4

Spurs, carrot, and enchant DO STACK! The riding crop is what doesn't stack with anything (and is also what was mentioned about). There was a very detailed comment about this at thottbot, someone put a lot of time and effort into explaining it all, so I think I'll bring that information here since I found it very useful. There was a better post with much more information, but it was formated oddly and so I couldnt simply copy and paste. This post will more then safice however.

Posters Note *This is not my writing but off of the WoW forums, origionally posted by Seravais*

Ok, First I am a 365 LW on Medivh Horde that can make this free with your mats if you need it.
Second people dont seem to know how to look in the forums for answers first, so ill try to lighten the Blue posters job load a little.

The Pre-BC speed enchants are Mithril Spurs (4%), Carrot on a Stick (3%), and Riding Skill to gloves enchant (2%) = 9% total speed increase.
The Riding Crop does not stack with any of those three, nor with crusader aura, nor does it work with druidic flight form. It also wasn't designed to. QQ more.
Riding Crop = +10% Speed increase
There are several blue posts confirming that the Riding Crop does not stack with anything else, and that it is a simple 1 stop replacement for the pre-existing mount speed increase items/enchants so as to save space/let you enchant your gear with what you want and not have a seperate set just to ride fast.
These same posts confirm that the +10% that the riding crop is the most mount speed increase that the game is currently designed/allowed to give you.
the Riding Crop was never intended to be a huge increase of speed, just a convenience issue.
However, I have done the math on this, as well as done several tests as to the speed traveled with the 3 pre-bc items/enchants mentioned above, as compared to the Riding Crop for those that place an emphasis on speed.

Your normal run speed =100%
Regular land/flying Mount = 160%
Epic Land mount = 200%
Swift Flying mount (commonly referred to as an epic mount because it requires epic flying skill, but actually the mount is rare, not epic) = 200% Running / 380% Flying
Epic PVP armored Netherdrake = 200% Running, 410% Flying

With the first 3 Pre-BC speed enchants
Normal running mount = 174.4% Rovement speed
Epic running mount = 218% Running speed
Normal flying mount = 174.4% Running and flying speed
Swift flying Mount = 218% Running speed / 414.2% Flying speed
Epic PVP armored Netherdrake = 218% Running speed / 446.9% flying speed

With the crop,
Normal running mount = 176% Rovement speed
Epic running mount = 220% Running speed
Normal flying mount = 176% Running and flying speed
Swift flying Mount = 220% Running speed / 418% Flying speed
Epic PVP armored Netherdrake = 220% Running speed / 451% flying speed

The Riding crop is therefore faster than the Pre-BC mount speed increase items, and allowes you to either not have to lug riding gear boots/gloves with you, or allow you to put more usefull enchants on your boots/gloves.
as several blizzard developer posts have said on the blizzard forums...the intention of the riding crop was to be a replacement of the carrot so that you could use the enchant slots on your boots gloves, as well as go slightly faster than what was already there, NOT to make your mount twice as fast, a rocket sled, or anything else overpowered when it came to speed.

In addition, there is some confusion about crusader aura. The riding crop does NOT stack with crusader. Crusader aura adds 20% speed to the mount you are using, which is 240%speed on an epic land mount...the 10% Increased mount speed of the crop is increases mount speed by 10% not adding 10%. Therefore 10% of 200 is 20 so riding crop=220% speed on an epic land mount...
There are plenty of threads on this here that have confirmed that the most speed increase you can get from ITEMS is 10% which is what the crop gives. The pre expansion items combined gave 9% so it is a replacement, as well as a little faster.

You either want the freed up enchant slots/bag space or not when it comes down to it. the speed is alot more for some (those that only had the carrot and not the spurs/glove enchant) and very little to others (those that used all three), but a speed increase none the less.

I hope that this will help people to understand this well, and people won't continue to perpetuate any of the false info floating about regarding this issue.

Комментарий от Keify

The enchant stacks with Carrot on a Stick and Mithril Spur, but doesn't stack with Riding Crop, Crusader Aura or Talents that increase mount speed.

Комментарий от calabacin

Here's a small guide on what patterns/items can improve your proffessions/skills. Please do feel free to comment if there's something wrong, or that I missed. If you like it, you may want to rate this comment ;-)

Using Blacksmithing
Riding+4% (requires 235) Enchant Plans: Mithril Spurs

Using Cooking
Fishing+10 (requires 100) Buff Recipe: Captain Rumsey's Lager

Using Enchanting
Fishing+2 (requires 145) Enchant Formula: Enchant Gloves - Fishing
Herbalism+2 (requires 145) Enchant Formula: Enchant Gloves - Herbalism
Herbalism+5 (requires 225) Enchant Enchant Gloves - Advanced Herbalism
Mining+2 (requires 145) Enchant Formula: Enchant Gloves - Mining
Mining+5 (requires 215) Enchant Formula: Enchant Gloves - Advanced Mining
Riding+2% (requires 250) Enchant Formula: Enchant Gloves - Riding Skill
Skinning+5 (requires 200) Enchant Formula: Enchant Gloves - Skinning
Herbalism+5, Mining+5, Skinning+5 (requires 375) Enchant Enchant Gloves - Gatherer

Using Engineering
Mining+5 (requires 205) Head Goblin Mining Helmet

Using Fishing
Fishing+15 (requires 50) 2-Hand Darkwood Fishing Pole
Fishing+20 (requires 100) 2-Hand Big Iron Fishing Pole

Using Leatherworking
Herbalism+5 (requires 135) Hands Pattern: Herbalist's Gloves
Lockpicking+5 (requires 120) Hands Dark Leather Gloves
Riding+10% (requires 350) Trinket Pattern: Riding Crop

From a quest
Fishing+3 (level 14, requires 10) 2-Hand Blump Family Fishing Pole
Fishing+3 (level 70, requires 70) Enchant Spun Truesilver Fishing Line
Fishing+5 (level 1, requires 1) Head Lucky Fishing Hat
Fishing+5 (level 1, requires 1) Feet Nat Pangle's Extreme Anglin' Boots
Fishing+5 (level 1, requires 1) Enchant High Test Eternium Fishing Line
Fishing+5 (level 70, requires 70) Head Weather-Beaten Fishing hat
Fishing+20 (level 64, requires 62) 2-Hand Seth's Graphite Fishing Pole
Fishing+25 (level 50, requires 44) 2-Hand Nat Pangle's Extreme Angler FC-5000
Fishing+35 (level 62, requires 62) 2-Hand Arcanite Fishing Pole
Riding+3% (level 50, requires 40) Trinket Carrot on a Stick

From reputation grinding
Riding+10% (level 70, requires 70 & honored with Netherwing) Trinket Skybreaker Whip
Fishing+30 (level 70, requires 70 & exalted with Kalu'ak) 2-Hand Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole (Also allows underwater breathing)

From a vendor
Fishing+5 (requires 10) 2-Hand Strong Fishing Pole

Комментарий от Ozbert

Put this enchant on some white cloth gloves (and mithril spurs on some white cloth boots) with a minimum required less than 30, such as Padded Gloves (and Padded Boots).

Once you upgrade to the riding crop, you can sling the gloves and boots in your bank and hand them down to the next alt you roll.

Комментарий от Zeluha

Got it from a Lockpicking Lockbox level 225 Today on Azshara.

Wee..

Комментарий от monkay98

dose this stack with mithril spurs?

Комментарий от 188618

I'm on Proudmoore.
Found this formula in a chest in Azshara. Put it up on the AH for 450g buyout (it was the only one for sale). It sold within 10 minutes.

Комментарий от Bizarre

This enchant does not appear to work at level 80.

Комментарий от 83604

Can anyone confirm if this enchant can still drop? I'm trying to collect every enchant. I hope they haven't phased it out of the loot tables. I haven't seen it on the AH in so long.

Комментарий от 238445

Dropped for me from Azuregos, soloed him as prot pally

Комментарий от AchillesJG

I just found my second one of these, and now I have an enchanter (if you look above, I found one in Azshara a while ago, and gave it to the wife).

My second one dropped from Cuergo's Hidden Treasure.

Комментарий от Guanyin

Incredibly hard to get. I spent the past few months checking the AH on my realm regularly and I've never seen it on there.
Hopefully I'll get it, once... It's one of the very few enchants I am still missing.

Комментарий от 299735

QFT. I'm on a crazy high pop server with a highly rapid AH. I check the AH probably 8-10 times a day. I literally browse it for the few BoE enchants and tailor patterns that I'm missing every time I get near a major city. Over 96% of recipes in game for both professions.... seriously WTB. lol if those molten core farmers think 29sp/30sp sells well, they can't imagine what I would pay for this.

Комментарий от basetsb

After several failed attempts to get this to drop from the world dragon, I casually browsed the AH this morning and found it listed for 55G!

BUYOUT KTHX!

Комментарий от 83604

FINALLY I get this to drop off Lethon.

World Dragon farming is your best bet. I'm hoping there's a resurgence of people wanting this enchant while leveling up their new Goblin and Worgen characters for Cataclysm. I sure know I'll be using this + mithril spurs!

Комментарий от XxiolaA

Someone put this formula on AH for 50 silver (Bladefist EU) - I'm dead f***ing serious. God I'm starting to love ppl who don't use wowhead. The formula is easily worth 5k gold. I never saw it on AH in 3 years checking it on my enchanting toon.

I wish you all luck mates, like me - you never know when it will strike :D ...so keep checking AH every day.

Комментарий от HordeSkorp

Just looted from a Greater Darkmoon Prize which costs 40 Darkmoon tickets.... worth it =)

Комментарий от Hashupa

Looking at the extremely low drop rates and the fact that you will probably never see it again, DO NOT put this on the auction house for 400g or even 5kg. I took a wild guess and threw mine up on the AH for 25,000 and it was bought up within a day.

So go big before you decide to settle for a lower price.

Комментарий от Lolstorm

Sold it for 80k gold on Stormreaver EU. It dropped earlier that day from the Neferian boss, lv60 raid. Real happy with this. :)

Комментарий от pikamaster

there one on Nzgrel Alliance side going for 4444 gold :/

Комментарий от InfiniteIce

Picked it up on Blackrock for 2500. There's another sitting there for 4k atm.

Комментарий от turulo

There is some way to farm these rare recipes because now out of the blue these as many other "once rare" recipes start to appear in the AH regularly.

Don't be fooled and pick overpriced recipes yet, because as people find out how to farm them their prices will go down.

This one for example, now 3 of them appeared in the AH in 2 days, it's definitelly not a coincidence.

Комментарий от demonnicus

This formula Формула чар для перчаток - навык верховой езды like Formula: Enchant Shield - Frost Resistance is a world drop and is not farmable. These enchants used to drop from the world dragons in vanilla. Now your best chance is the AH although I havent seen one posted in a year or so. I am currently looking for this one as well. Perhaps this week Нефариан will be so kind and drop it for me. :)

Комментарий от DarkerFalz

Got one last time a friend and I ran BWL. Trying to sell it for 12k at the moment.

Комментарий от MathiusX

Just had this drop from a non elite mob in Stratholme. I can't decide whether to use it or sell it.

Комментарий от Gartax

Im selling one for 13k on Bladefist US, Alliance.

Contact me in game

Gartax or Merchandise

Комментарий от Martika

In case it isn't obvious, the suggested sale price here is ludicrously outdated. I just sold this on my server for 10k. It is probably one of THE RAREST enchanting formulas in the game, and may even end up being removed. At Cataclysm/Mists gold levels, 10k is more than reasonable for an item of this magnitude.

Edit - I don't know WHY someone would downrate this. My statement is completely factual and useful. One would be foolish to list this in the auction house for 499g.

Комментарий от remid0d0s0

Found one for 1500g.

Bought it, now I'm going think whether to learn it or not.

Комментарий от Woosty

Have one on Korgath if anyone is interested. IGN: Woosty

Комментарий от Raelyth

Dropped in a super lucky Strat run (also got the Deathcharger). I have a very slow AH as it is not a very populated server but trying it for 30k for a week or so and will advertise every now and then at peak times. Just in case anyone is looking, EU Shadowsong, Horde!

Комментарий от Balrog

Just dropped off Nefarian for me, and I'm trying to sell it on Arygos-US, Alliance side.

Комментарий от omatic

Just got in Strat. If anyone want it it's for sale on Jaedenar Horde EU.

Комментарий от 1082746

Got one of these from a lockbox that dropped in Blackrock Depths Detention Block while farming xmogs. Only posting this because neither the place or the box are mentioned here as possible drops.

Комментарий от 817820

Did I just loot the most rare enchanting formula in-game? :o

Комментарий от 1323737

So bleeping mad. I looted, thought "another stupid recipe" Sold it for 20g. Just now decided to look up the price. switched over to WoW...Incoming amount...20g
DAMNIT.

Комментарий от Atroxi

This just dropped for me off a patchwork horror in Strath. So badly debating to keep or sell. I'm a huge collector when it comes to most things, but the thought of the gold...hnnng! So tough!

Комментарий от Omgzjustin

Just dropped for me off one of the Anvilrage Footsoldiers.

One out of 350,000 chance. That's ridiculous.

I'll be enjoying my gold.

Комментарий от Emphyria

Just dropped off of something in Zul'Farrak. Had no idea how rare this was.

Комментарий от Caliban06

Dropped in Uldaman from the Древнее сокровище

Комментарий от LiriellGarrosh

It is possible that this enchant's drop rate was increased. I just got it twice in the same run of Zul'Farrak, both from trash mobs.

Комментарий от unioniron

I just enchanted my level 45 warrior's gloves with this enchant. I then copy pasted a movement speed weakaura string from this post https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17614471289.
There was no increase in my mounted speed. I tested it with several mounts, gloves on , gloves off. I also got same movement speed reading from an addon https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/dejacharacterstats.

Комментарий от Naj4

Just dropped from Nefarian, first time I see that recipe (doing that raid once a week)

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