"Ловля гигантской рыбы, заметки рыболова".

После того как у вас появился соратник легендарный Нат Пегл, поставьте его на работу в ваше бунгало рыболовов. Нас интересует способность Ната Рыболов

"Опыт Ната позволяет вам ловить на Дреноре рыб-гигантов, не используя наживку."

Нат будет иногда присоединиться к вам во время рыбалки, но он не будет принимать рыбу-гиганта или продать товары ( это делается только в гарнизоне). Его посещения ограничены дружественным приветом и случайным комментарием.

"* Ик! * Было ли это дельфин ? * ик! * Я люблю дельфинов!"

"Ты пива захватил? Без пива рыбалка - это время на ветер!"

Тип гигантской рыбы зависит от зоны, в которой ловите рыбу:
Гигантский хлыстохвост Черноводья - Таладор
Гигантский слепой озерный осетр - Долина призрачной луны
Гигантский толстопузик - Награнд
Гигантский огненный аммонит - Хребет Ледяного Огня
Гигантский безротый скрытиус - Горгронд
Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот - Пики Арака

Рыба гигант, может быть поймана только из внутренних водоемов.
Рыба гигант ловится без приманки. Приманка не имеет никакого значения для рыбы-гиганта, но продолжает влиять на основной улов .
Рыба гигант ловится вместе с основной рыбой (нет никаких специальных лунок). Шанс удачной подсечки 1,1% от улова (в настоящее время 27 пойманных гигантов из 2467). Нет очевидного различия, между квалификацией или зоной.
Рыбы-гиганты являются персональным предметом, поэтому не могут быть проданы.

upd: через неделю рыбалки 4.12.2014 доловил маунта, но есть небольшие особенности 100 монет всего лишь из 13к рыбы.
Если вы в день поймали 5 гигантских рыб одного вида, перейдите на другой вид, мне показалось что на ловлю гигансткой рыбы есть диминишинг. Первый пять рыбок ловятся за 30-45 мин. После того как отдаю Нату этих рыб и возвращаюсь на тоже место, следующих рыбок не удается выловить и за час. Перехожу на другой вид гигантской рыбки и она снова нормально ловится. Кстати заметил кд на диминишинг - сутки. Вот собственно и все.

upd 6.2: Теперь рыба персональная, а значит ее можно ловить пока наживка не закончится.

Удачной рыбалки!

Комментарий от Yujash

Гигантская рыба больше не имеет количественное ограничение в сумках.

Комментарий от eliserowland

Этой мой почти научный эксперимент по ловле гигантской рыбы на Дреноре в 8.0.1 как полагается из лунок.
Мне нужно было наловить кучу рыбы для покупки петов и другой снеди у Ната Пэгла, так что решила хоть как-то развлечься по ходу ловли... Плюс всегда было интересно, какие факторы влияют на вылов гигантских рыб, есть ли баги и какая рыба ловится лучше. Вообще, сначала я думала что Гигантский слепой озерный осетр багнутая, так как она ловилась у меня еще до появления Ната, когда моя рыбацкая хижина была только 2го уровня. Но по ходу эксперимента я смогла убедиться, что есть рыбки, которые ловятся еще быстрее. Итак... приступаем!

Вот моменты, которые я хотела проверить:
1) Влияет ли одетый Талисман поиска Истинных Сокровищ на шанс вылова редкой рыбы
2) Влияет ли крутой рыболовный эквип
3) Влияет ли наличие наживки
4) Влияет ли пиво ;)

Ловила рыбу по 4 дня в каждом варианте эквипа по 5 рыбин каждого вида в каждой локации в разном порядке (второй день эксперимента, в качестве исключения, ловила 2 раза подряд по 5 рыб, чтобы проверить вылавливаются ли они потом быстрее, когда в инвентаре лежат их сородичи, или дольше). Гигантский морской скорпион ловила в разных локациях, чтобы выяснить, где он ловится быстрее. Каждый 4й день я рыбачила под эффектом пивасика Светлое пиво капитана Ромси, чтобы проверить влияет ли пиво на рыбалку, как на этом настаивает Нат ;)

I Талисман поиска Истинных Сокровищ + Мастерски сделанная калуакская удочка + Шляпа Ната
день 1 (начало ловли 23:30 мск) мин:сек
Гигантский безротый скрытиус - Горгронд 19:36 (27 забросов)
Гигантский огненный аммонит - Хребет Ледяного Огня 24:01 (52 заброса)
Гигантский толстопузик - Награнд 18:39 (60 забросов)
Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот - Пики Арака 23:31 (57 забросов)
Гигантский хлыстохвост Черноводья - Таладор 24:01 (68 заброса)
Гигантский слепой озерный осетр - Долина Призрачной Луны 22:02 (47 забросов)
Гигантский морской скорпион - Пики Арака 19:56 (65 забросов)
Гигантская бешенка-сквернорот - Танаанские Джунгли 11:18 (33 заброса)
В первый день я отдавала рыбу Нату в Гарнизон после каждых пяти рыб (то есть выловив 5 рыб, я летела и отдавала, потом летела ловить дальше). Но со второго дня решила попробовать ловить не летая в горнизон, а подряд всех по 5 штук и посмотреть повлияет ли это на шанс вылова. Так же во второй день я решила ловить по 2 раза по 5 рыб подряд в каждой локе.... в следующие дни отказалась от подобной тактики, так как это занимало слишком много времени (я ведь ловила в 1 сутки по 5 рыб в каждой локе...)
далее буду писать в том же формате, но сокращенно!

день 2 (11:45+)
Гигантский слепой озерный осетр 22:33 (49) / 21:22 (53)
Гигантский морской скорпион 34:28 (41) в Долине
Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот 15:46 (35) / 12:11 (24)
Гигантский хлыстохвост Черноводья 18:24 (53) / 26:25 (75)
Гигантский толстопузик 10:48 (37) / 15:15 (49)
Гигантский огненный аммонит 23:26 (64) / 15:34 (35)
Гигантский безротый скрытиус 40:10 (70) / 06:36 (15)
Гигантская бешенка-сквернорот 17:56 (51) / 11:36 (34)

день 3 (21:00+)
Гигантский толстопузик 18:05 (55)
Гигантский морской скорпион 14:26 (47) В Награнде
Гигантский хлыстохвост Черноводья 43:40 (122)
Гигантский слепой озерный осетр 19:58 (39)
Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот 15:54 (36)
Гигантский огненный аммонит 24:11 (53:5)
Гигантский безротый скрытиус 54:33 (110)
Гигантская бешенка-сквернорот 12:52 (43)
В 3й день я забыла отозвать в горнизон соратника (Леораджа), и он был рядом всю рыбалку, как вы можете заметить в этот день рыба ловилась очень долго в отличии от других дней, так что впредь я рыбачила без соратников, петов и питомцев)

день 4 С ПЫВОМ (17:00+)
Гигантский хлыстохвост Черноводья 18:16 (52)
Гигантский огненный аммонит 10:55 (24)
Гигантский безротый скрытиус 25:08 (46)
Гигантский морской скорпион 28:59 (32) В Горгронде
Гигантский толстопузик 27:42 (76)
Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот 32:05 (70)
Гигантский слепой озерный осетр 48:38 (100)
Гигантская бешенка-сквернорот 10:08 (25)

II Мастерски сделанная калуакская удочка + Шляпа Ната (без талисмана)
день 1 (23:20+)
Гигантский огненный аммонит 34:01 (77)
Гигантский безротый скрытиус 25:00 (49)
Гигантская бешенка-сквернорот 33:27 (99)
Гигантский слепой озерный осетр 23:03 (35)
Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот 25:15 (59)
Гигантский хлыстохвост Черноводья 18:03 (36)
Гигантский толстопузик 13:22 (35)
Гигантский морской скорпион 16:59 (37)

день 2 (18:38+)
Гигантский толстопузик 12:20 (38)
Гигантский огненный аммонит 21:48 (47)
Гигантский слепой озерный осетр 28:14 (59)
Гигантский безротый скрытиус 36:32 (65)
Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот 08:46 (23)
Гигантская бешенка-сквернорот 17:21 (51)
Гигантский хлыстохвост Черноводья 06:55 (16)
Гигантский морской скорпион 17:00 (41) в Таладоре

день 3 (21:23+)
Гигантский огненный аммонит 12:33 (28)
Гигантский безротый скрытиус 49:04 (94)
Гигантская бешенка-сквернорот 26:41 (81)
Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот 14:52 (34)
Гигантский морской скорпион 12:44 (22) В Танаанских Джунглях
Гигантский толстопузик 32:19 (99)
Гигантский хлыстохвост Черноводья 04:50 (12)
Гигантский слепой озерный осетр 25:37 (53)

день 4 С ПЫВОМ (13:54+)
Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот 11:52 (28)
Гигантский безротый скрытиус 24:00 (49)
Гигантский морской скорпион 20:07 (51) В Танаанских Джунглях
Гигантская бешенка-сквернорот 08:47 (26)
Гигантский слепой озерный осетр 23:04 (51)
Гигантский хлыстохвост Черноводья 31:38 (90)
Гигантский толстопузик 23:30 (71)
Гигантский огненный аммонит 17:40 (40)

Продолжение в следующем посте (все не вместилось)

Комментарий от eliserowland

Some useful info:

* Fished in the inland waters of Пики Арака.
* The drop rate at 700 skill is around 1%.
* It appears as additional loot to the main catch.
* Using Наживка на глубинного угря-мешкорота does not influence the catch rate. It does however influence the main catch, so I recommend using it to maximize your profits!
* Buffs to fishing skill (enchants, lures, poles, etc.) DO influence the catch rate (changed in 6.1). So far Ive managed to get to 1089 skill and the drop rate has increased to 5-6% (average 100 casts/5 lunkers)
* Can be caught from fishing pools (as of 6.1)
* Can be caught while in a raid group. If you aren't catching one, it's just bad RNG.
* Use it to get Счастливая монетка Ната and purchase pets, a mount and other fishing goodies!

Комментарий от WascoTTE

total 3h farming and nothing

1100 skill

Комментарий от 346630

20 min with Ephemeral Rod and Worm Supreme. Skill > 1000. No Catches.

Having JUST fished up 100 fish from each zone, I can say with clear memory and decent data that I fish about 45 fish per 10 minutes. Lures make great timers.

If drop rate is 1% then 20 minutes per Lunker is a fair estimate. It is probably on the low side, so 30, 40 minutes is statistically likely. Worse still, the nature of the RNG is that you can easily expect to go an hour, and 3 hour spells WILL occur. So unless this gets nerfed, expect AT LEAST...

Hat/Pole = 25 Coins = 8+ hours each
Shark Pet = 50 Coins = 16+ hours
Mount = 100 Coins = 32+ hours

All four items above = 64 hours.

I think Nat is trying to be the new Winterspring Frostsabers.

Комментарий от glycereth

Here's what I found out about catching lunkers:

1. You don't need 1000 skill to catch lunkers.(I've been fishing them up at 880-905), not sure if it helps with the droprates if you get higher.
2. Nat Pagle has to be assigned and working in your garrison fishing shack.
3. El said the bait doesn't affect lunker droprates.(so use it anyway to avoid catching 70% junk fish)
4. Don't fish in pools.

Edit: When 6.1 hits, the higher your fishing skill will also increase the chance of catching lunkers.

Комментарий от Magestical

Королевский червяк + 100 fishing
Fishing pole bonus + 30 fishing
Наживка на глубинного угря-мешкорота

2 x Королевский червяк
1 x Заостренный рыболовный крючок
4 x Наживка на глубинного угря-мешкорота
2 x Мясо рыбы-сабли
29 x Огромная рыба-сабля
5 x Глубинный угорь-мешкорот
75 x Огромный глубинный угорь-мешкорот
5 x Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот

Roughly 4% drop rate. Much better than the listed 1%
In addition, I was getting at least one lunker every 10min (the time it took for the lure to wear off).

Комментарий от 503532

Abashera’s Lunker Fishing Journal

I noticed a few people have said they averaged approximately three fish per hour. Others have lamented that "the drops are dismal," pointing out that they've been at it for an hour or two with no catch.

Rather than take guesstimates of how many lunkers drop per hour, I decided to turn on my Blizzard UI Stopwatch and record the amount of time that had past between each lunker catch, so as to get a more accurate idea of DROPS-PER-HOUR - which I believe is what the average person wants to know: “How long is it going to take me to get my mount and/or pet?”

This is the purpose of this journal, to get an accurate idea of how long it takes to get 100 lunkers for Nat’s mount. This way players can plan their fishing schedule accordingly. (Note: This journal is not however to figure out the drop-rate of lunkers, which is determined by the number of lunkers per cast, which percentage wowhead has already data-mined).

I also notice some debate on wowhead as to whether or not “BEER really brings in the big catch” as Nat Pagle suggests in his dialogue. I have to admit, when I read that, I too thought Blizzard may have added a “beer mechanic” into the game that increases the chances. Therefor, along with logging my catch times, I also split my lunker catches in half: 50 lunkers with Светлое пиво капитана Ромси, and 50 without.

Regarding Sample Size: 100 Lunkers may look like a small sample; but consider too that I caught 10,408 Enormous fish, along with hundreds of smaller fish, bait, lures, etcetera—so the 100 lunkers represent well over 11k casts.

If others want to duplicate this experiment and add their numbers with mine to further increase the accuracy of catches per hour, , please do. However I’m off to fish up 75 more lunkers for pet and the fishing pole; but I personally won’t be continuing this experiment, the grind is GRUESOME!

I applied bait, while casting, using the following macro:

/use Плот рыболова
/use Sea Scorpion Bait
/use fire Ammonite Bait
/use Jawless Skulker Bait
/use Blackwater Whiptail Bait
/use Abyssal Gulper Eel Bait
/use Blind Lake Sturgeon Bait
/use Fat Sleeper Bait
/cast Fishing

I hope you will benefit from my records.

LUNKER LOG

Here’s my log of . I rounded each catch to the nearest minute (however I rounded all catches under a minute, up to one minute).

50 LUNKERS WITH RUMSEY BUFF:
a) 13 / 13 / 28 / 1 / 65 / 12 / 64 / 47 / 12 / 6 / 43 / 7 / 2 / 4 / 119 / 26 / 26 / 4 / 8 / 66 / 33 / 77 / 18 / 9 / 15 (= 718)

b) 18 / 27 / 10 / 75 / 11 / 71 / 2 / 131 / 44 / 9 / 3 / 16 / 9 / 52 / 9 / 54 / 2 / 45 / 26 / 45 / 5 / 11 / 22 / 1 / 66 (= 764)

1482m / 50L = 29.65m per Lunker
Approximately two Lunkers per hour.

50 LUNKERS WITHOUT RUMSEY BUFF:
c) 72 / 32 / 61 / 47 / 9 / 1 / 36 / 1 / 12 / 1 / 1 / 8 / 27 / 138 / 34 / 4 / 24 / 30 / 21 / 26 / 47 / 46 / 1 / 5 / 13 (= 697)

d) 50 / 11 / 14 / 8 / 49 / 15 / 1 / 24 / 6 / 12 / 5 / 4 / 28 / 90 / 15 / 51 / 55 / 1 / 61 / 6 / 28 / 23 / 46 / 38 / 39 (= 680)

1377 min. / 50L = 27.54m per. Lunker
Approximately two Lunkers per hour.

GRAND TOTALS - 100 LUNKERS
— 2859min / 100 = 28.59 min. per Lunker
— Approximately two Lunkers per hour = Plan approximately 50 fishing-hours to catch 100 Lunkers

CONCLUSIONS

Светлое пиво капитана Ромси didn’t make any difference. In fact the drops were better without it, though marginally, likely due to RNG.

Because Captain Rumsey’s Lager didn’t make a difference, I recommend not using it for the simple reason that 1) obviously, it makes no difference, and 2) you have to stop every three minutes to drink, and that only interrupts your fishing rhythm. For the same reason, I also didn’t apply lures, hooks, or Королевский червяк, it makes you have to stop fishing to apply them, and lures and bait have a cast time to apply. The less time you spend applying buffs that don’t increase your lunker chances, the more times you can Cast & Catch, the more catches you can pull in per hour… the faster you’ll get your booty! (mount/pet/etc)

So what about Nat’s mention of drinking beer to bring in the big catch?

Nat also says “Don’t EVER go fishing without a cooler.” Are we to conclude that we need to have a Переносной холодильник in addition to drinking Captain Rumsey’s Lager? And what about the Выброшенная счастливая монетка, which bears more than a remarkable resemblance to Счастливая монетка Ната? …I mean, it’s the same icon, and the name is only one word off.

But I would expect a lush to recommend beer and a cooler. Truth is, I don’t think Nat’s a good fisherman (or he’s just too drunk to fish), which is why I have to catch his food for him.

But go ahead and drink the lager if the placebo effect makes you feel good… or for the actual +10 fishing bonus.

THE CATCH

3 Шляпа со щупальцами
6 Шляпа главного рыбака
20 Горерыбка
31 Эфемерная удочка
100 Lunkers
157 Заостренный рыболовный крючок
174 Королевский червяк
193 "Благоухающая" феромонорыба
204 Улетная рыба
10,408 Enormous Fish

NOTABLE (favorite) FISHING SPOTS

(These are spots where you won’t be interrupted by hostile NPCs)

Хребет Ледяного Огня
36, 38 (Jump to island in middle of lava)

Горгронд
61, 55 (I prefer darker places)
40, 76 (This spot is the quickest to access for Horde)

Награнд
72:15 (on raft, under rock overhang)

Долина Призрачной Луны
36, 48 (BEAUTIFUL ZONE! Path entrance @ 41:53)
33, 36 (Deep, clear pool)
53, 77 (Drop down waterfall from lvl 100 zone)
For Гигантский морской скорпион I usually fished just above Temple of Karabor. Note: The NPCs on the boat are friendly to Horde unless you attack them.

Пики Арака
60, 13 (Note: seems to be the greatest chance for fishing pole and hat - easy to catch 5 poles in one session.)

Таладор
72, 63 (By waterfall)
57, 41 (Under bridge by waterfall)

FISHING FACTS

— ~~The Nat Pagle Follower must be assigned to your Fishing Shack to catch Lunkers~~.

— Lunkers are unique - only 5 of each type can be caught and owned before needing to return to base to turn them in.

— The addon Fishing Buddy is nice, and helps pass the time.

— I fished up between one and six Эфемерная удочка per day, and just kept equipping the newest pole.

— My fastest lunker catch was 3 seconds after the first cast; My longest time between catches was 2 hours and 18 minutes (ETERNITY). If you go over two hours, it’s just bad RNG. It evens out when you catch two or three within a few minutes or seconds.

— I alternated fishing spots (zones), catching equal amounts of all “enormous” fish types, mainly so I could send them to alts to level fishing through the Fishing Shack dailies.

— Saberfish are the best way to level cooking, I leveled up the cooking skill on four toons, and have more than enough Огромная рыба-сабля for the rest of my toons (if they were all lvl 100). I’m even sending some to friends so they can level cooking.

— I did the Pandaria Нат Пэгл dailies at the same time, and got my rep from buddy to to Best Friend (exalted) in just four days!

— Nat Pagle is a real putz. Oh, and “GET THE HELL OFF MY RAFT NAT!” If you ever fish in the 1st person view, Nat WILL make you lose a few fish! They should have named him Gnat.

This complete post, along with screenshots and discussion, can be viewed here: http://www.warcraftpets.com/community/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12997

HAPPY FISHING

Комментарий от GeertJan

I caught one! At a droprate of 0.12%, and average time of 15 seconds between two fishing casts, it should take (on average) three and a half hours to catch one. If my calculation is wrong, please reply.

From my chatwindow, while fishing an Косяк глубинного угря-мешкорота:

You receive loot: Огромный глубинный угорь-мешкорот
Nat Pagle says: Greetings Huon!
Nat Pagle says: Seriously? I think I would actually just throw that one back.
Nat Pagle says: See ya!
You feel a little tipsy from the Светлое пиво капитана Ромси
You receive loot: Огромный глубинный угорь-мешкорот
You receive loot: Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот
You receive loot: Огромный глубинный угорь-мешкорот
You receive loot: Огромный глубинный угорь-мешкорот

Комментарий от 1427948

Appreciate all the effort people put into this. I'm absolutely sure now, though, that Ive wasted my time. Seems like another "a lot for a little," or at least, "a lot for ... too late." I don't find anything practical that doing this achievement really added. What good does it do me to be able to catch enormous fish in my garrison after Ive caught 700 enormous fish. Its like the bonus for your Trading Post. What good does it do me to have a Trading Post that gives me %20 buff rep gain.... after Ive already raised a couple reputations? Or the search for the lost Auctioneer parts? Don't get me wrong, I think this expansion is by far my favorite and the time Ive not had to spend in Sholazar Basin doing circles around a mountain because all of it is in a cave right next to me, is much appreciated, but sometimes the bonuses for the most time consuming quest lines in your garrison are underwhelming. I get to spend hours catching 700 fish so I can spend over 50 more hours to get more Fishing items to never use because .... I just caught 700 enormous fish. I feel like Blizzard just doesn't play certain parts of this game. Just my opinion take it or leave it.

Комментарий от critney

How many lunkers can be turned in on a daily bases?

Комментарий от 937612

Now with 6.1, the higher your fishing skill will also increase the chance of catching lunkers!

Just caught 2 Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот within 6 catches (sure the Gods of RNG were pleased, submitted ss). Less than half hour for all five with 1100 fishing, using Шляпа со щупальцами , Эфемерная удочка and Королевский червяк

Also, they now can be caught from pools.

Thanks, Blizzard!

Source: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/17561381/61-ptr-patch-notes-february-13-2-13-2015

Комментарий от 1466651

I decided to analyze how many casts it would take for me to get 5 Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот

My base skill was 700.
For fishing skill buffs I used:

Шляпа главного рыбака which give +100 fishing skill.
Эфемерная удочка which give +100 fishing skill.
Королевский червяк which give +200 fishing skill.

That made a total of 1100 fishing skill. I also used Наживка на глубинного угря-мешкорота during this test. This item will not improve the catchrate of the lunker tho.
I fished in Spires of Arak at (61.16),(13.51).
I didn´t drink anything to increase the catchrate.
I got 5 Гигантский глубинный угорь-мешкорот in 16 minutes.
On my 15th, 25th, 27th, 62nd and 101st cast.
My catchrate this try was around 4,95%. (Math: 5/101)

If you have any questions about this, feel free to leave a comment.
If any of this information is incorrect, please let me know.

Комментарий от Maeseck

Some information that needs to be confirmed.

Fishing from pools greatly increases the chance to catch lunkers.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh229/pollux82/WoWScrnShot_052215_131755.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh229/pollux82/WoWScrnShot_052215_114806.jpg

If you find it to be true upvote this so more people can work on Nat Pagle's Friendship.
I can't find the time to do millions of casts to crunch the numbers so I am outsourcing it :)

Комментарий от pipes

You can now have more than 5 Abyssal Gulper Lunker at you at any time.
This also concern the others, such as:
Blind Lake Lunker, Fire Ammonite Lunker, Fat Sleeper Lunker,
Sea Scorpion Lunker, Jawless Skulker Lunker, Blackwater Whiptail Lunker,
and the new one Felmouth Frenzy Lunker.

Screenshot as proof if anyone needs it.

Комментарий от Kerghan869

FYI, these now stack to 20, and there does not appear to be a limit to overall number in your inventory. I did a mass turn-in of almost 50 today and bought myself a nice new Sea Calf.

Also highly recommend Easy Lunker TurnIn addon from curse. Hotkey your "Interact with Target" and target Nat for super-speedy coin earning awesomeness.

Комментарий от hmrhead

Tips for catching lunkers....As if we still needed to prove to ole Nat that we're still best friends. ;-)

1. Leave Nat working in the fishing shack. You can't turn these in if he isn't there. But bring a follower with you on the trip. If no players are around, you can throw the "Благоухающая" феромонорыба to get an extra 100 skill.

2. Spend a little time fishing in your garrison for Ледоспинка студеных глубин. Throw them into your garrison's waters and kill the cavedweller that spawns. Among other things that are less likely, he will drop things like Эфемерная удочка, Королевский червяк, Шляпа главного рыбака, or Шляпа со щупальцами.

3. Use the Эфемерная удочка and put a Королевский червяк on it. Assuming you are at max level fishing, your skill level is now at 1100 as a base. "Благоухающая" феромонорыба is simply a bonus at this point as skill level affects drop rate now.

4. Pandora, Spotify, or whatever provider you choose, make sure you have some sort of noise in the background to regulate your sanity while enduring the sport that is known as fishing in WOW. ;-)

I have approximately 6700 casts in various locations across Draenor since starting to use this method and my current average on lunkers sits just shy of 6%. It still isn't for the week at heart but I find that in two hours, I generally go back to Nat with 20-23 of them. (There is no longer a limit of 5 that can be carried.)

Hope this helps oh fishing pals of mine! Enjoy your fishing excursions and remember to always bring a cooler. ;-)

Комментарий от 436846

Hand-in macro
If you need to turn in a lot of lunkers, paste this in a macro:
/script SelectGossipAvailableQuest(X)
/script CompleteQuest()
/script GetQuestReward()

Then replace 'X' according to which type of lunker you're handing in:
1 - Fire Ammonite Lunker
2 - Jawless Skulker Lunker
3 - Fat Sleeper Lunker
4 - Black Lake Lunker
5 - Blackwater Whiptail Lunker
6 - Abyssal Gulper Lunker
7 - Sea Scorpion Lunker
8 - Felmouth Frenzy Lunker

It'll work like this:
Right-click Nat Pagle, spam macro 3 times, and you've handed in 1 lunker.
It'll go faster than handing them in manually, and you won't have to download some addon either.
Happy fishing!

Комментарий от woheadbest

Fished from Spires of Arak 60,17 with no fishing pools
300 casts with 750 + 235 Fishing
206 (68.7%) Enormous Crescent Saberfish
51 (17.0%) Enormous Abyssal Gulper Eel
15 (5.0%) Abyssal Gulper Lunker
9 (3.0%) Crescent Saberfish
4 (1.3%) Abyssal Gulper Eel
4 (1.3%) Bladebone Hook
4 (1.3%) "Fragrant" Pheromone Fish
2 (0.7%) Worm Supreme

Комментарий от mychatposts

So you're here, not because you fish, but because you're sick of watching other toons skitter around Lost Isles and the dungeons on their Crimson Water Strider (Поводья багрового водного долгонога), while you slowly swim to keep up, right?

So you decide to level up fishing, (I started at zero) by doing stuff like getting Королевский червяк and fishing Черная барракуда at Lost Isles, getting to 700 quickly. You do Draenor Angler and get to 800, get your level 3 shack, recruit Nat Pagel, get about 70 Королевский червяк from the auction house, Эфемерная удочка , the fishing hat, and now you're ready to go at 1200 (800+400). Bait is not necessary unless you want to avoid getting junk fish, but it doesn't apply to getting lunkers.

At level 1200, give or take a buff, I got one abyssal lunker every 5 minutes under the bridge at Spires of Arak, flight path Akeeta's hovel, and the area around Spires of Arak 60, 17. Considering I would have to spend 500 minutes to get the mount, I really didn't have the patience. Then I tried fat sleeper lunkers in Nagrand, and got 3 to 4 lunkers every ten to twenty minutes from pools. But then you're spending time running to pools which seem to despawn after 4 casts. I'd try a few different fish if you feel like you're not getting results. Gorgrond just west (40,77) of the Deeproot flight path has some bursty spots (I got 9 lunkers in first 20 minutes but that never happened again) But honestly, even the fat sleepers were spotty after a while. Other favorite sweet spots dried up too. I think some sweet spots just 'go dry' because someone was just there fishing before you, courtesy of sites like this one.

The abyssal lunkers at the above Spires of Arak location around the bridge off Akeeta's Hovel seem to be the most consistent and you don't have to run around finding pools. Just stand there and cast into any water. Boring, but consistent.

To get 100 lunkers and my mount at level 1200: I fished up 2200 fish total for a 4.5% drop rate. I figure my total actual fishing time was about 7 to 8 hours, plus about 2 hours running around when I should have just sit tight at spires.

Oh. If you're hoping your first 100 lunkers from getting Nat Pagle in your garrison will get you the mount, beware. You need to be BEST FRIENDS with the dude. Your first 100 lunkers will get you halfway through GOOD friends.

To get quick rep with Nat Pagel in Draenor, I got 8 Гигантская бешенка-сквернорот from Tanaan around the POOLS in the water at 54,57. MAKE SURE you can quickly equip your weapon if you are lowish level because this is a mob ridden zone.

I turned them in. Just shy of best friends now.

I went back to my spot at Spires and got 4 more Abyssal Lunker and went back to my garrison and turned them in. So 12 more lunkers on top of the 100 I already turned in. DING! Best Friends now. Got my mount.

All the while I was drinking Natural Light Beer in real life. At Nat's 30th annoying visit, I finally made the connection that I was drinking 'NATty Lite'. Coincidence?

Комментарий от Xabbusan

Now that WoD is over, Worm Supreme are in very low supply. So I was trying to figure out if it was worth it to use all these expensive baits to boost my fishing skill or not. I did a quick experiment (I only did a 10 minute session for each which equaled between 35-40 casts) and these are my findings (This would apply to all Lunkers in all zones.):

Summary: Fishing skill from 800 - 1195 made NO difference on Lunker drop rate. It seems there is a cut-off somewhere between 860 and 1035 where you will stop getting Crescent Saberfish and Jawless Skulker. In my opinion, it is not worth it to boost your fishing level more than whatever gear you happen to have if all you are going for is Lunkers. The cost of the baits (high) vs the market price of the Enormous fish (low) makes it not worth worrying about.

Fishing Skill 800 (Using only Jawless Skulker Bait)
12% Crescent Saberfish (5)
5% Enormous Crescent Saberfish (2)
53% Enormous Jawless Skulker (23)
5% Fragrant Pheromone Fish (2)
14% Jawless Skulker (6)
2% Jawless Skulker Bait (1)
9% Jawless Skulker Lunker (4)

Fishing Skill 860 (Using Underlight Angler and Jawless Skulker Bait
9% Crescent Saberfish (4)
9% Enormous Crescent Saberfish (4)
51% Enormous Jawless Skulker (22)
2% Fragrant Pheromone Fish (1)
16% Jawless Skulker (7)
2% Jawless Skulker Bait (1)
7% Jawless Skulker Lunker (3)
2% Sharpened Fish Hook (1)

Fishing Skill 1035 (Underlight Angler, Jawless Skulker Bait, Nat's Drinking Hat, Tuskkar Spear)
2% Bladebone Hook (1)
0% Crescent Saberfish (0)
18% Enormous Crescent Saberfish (8)
64% Enormous Jawless Skulker (29)
4% Fragrant Pheromone Fish (2)
0% Jawless Skulker (0)
2% Jawless Skulker Bait (1)
9% Jawless Skulker Lunker (4)

Fishing Skill 1185-1195 (Underlight Angler, Jawless Skulker Bait, Tentacled Hat, Tuskkar Spear, Captain Rumsey's Lager, Trawler Totem, Worm Supreme)
0% Crescent Saberfish (0)
15% Enormous Crescent Saberfish (6)
74% Enormous Jawless Skulker (29)
3% Fragrant Pheromone Fish (1)
0% Jawless Skulker (0)
3% Jawless Skulker Bait (1)
3% Jawless Skulker Lunker (1)
3% Sharpened Fish Hook (1)

Комментарий от Rudyone

I just started fishing Nat's Lucky Coin with max Draenor fishing skill and
Hightfish Cap
Dragon Fishing Pole
Sharpened Tuskarr Spear
in Spires of Arak 64.30, 21.93 under the bridge.

I fished by 10 min segments on CD of Sharpened Tuskarr Spear and using Worm Supreme or Sharpened Fish Hook if catched. I made +- 50 casts per 10min.

1. run Sharpened Tuskarr Spear + Worm Supreme = 6 Abyssal Gulper Lunker
2. run Sharpened Tuskarr Spear = 4 Abyssal Gulper Lunker
3. run Sharpened Tuskarr Spear + Sharpened Fish Hook = 3 Abyssal Gulper Lunker
4. run Sharpened Tuskarr Spear + Worm Supreme = 1 Abyssal Gulper Lunker
5. run Sharpened Tuskarr Spear + Worm Supreme = 5 Abyssal Gulper Lunker
6. run Sharpened Tuskarr Spear + Worm Supreme = 4 Abyssal Gulper Lunker

So after 1 hour of fishing i got 23 Abyssal Gulper Lunker ; 1 after 13 casts. Looks like Iam very lucky or drop rate is little higher.
You will be able obtain enough Nat's Lucky Coin to get Crimson Water Strider in up to 5 hours of fishing with this "basic" gear bought from Nat in Mists of Pandaria for gold. Good Luck.

Комментарий от Jacmacthepirate

Wanted to type up a guide of my experience on Nat's Lunkers as of Shadowlands patch 9.1

Nat Pagle in this incarnation has 6 friendship tiers
Stranger
Acquaintance
Buddy
Friend
Good Friend
Best Friend

Each friendship level is 8,200 reputation, and each lunker gives 385 reputation per turn in. It takes 22 lurkers for each friend tier. As of patch 9.1 you can carry all 22 lunkers required for each friend tier in your bag at a time (assuming your fishing up the same one as I did) and each Lunker has a less than 2% drop chance (I don't want to say 1% because I feel like fishing items and level play a huge part in this, When I would forget to apply my lures and other fishing items it would take ages to get a lunker until I reapplied everything and started getting them more frequently, so don't forget your lures and lagers!). 1 lunker turn in gives 1 "Nat's Lucky Coin" and the 385 rep and the coins can be used to buy rep based items.

Nat's Drinking Hat - Purchased at "friend" status, it increases your fishing by 8 and has the ability to attach a special lure to your pole increasing your fishing by another 10 for 10 minutes
Cost 25: coins

Draenic Fishing Pole - This pole is purchased at "friend" status and increases your fishing skill by 13, and can also apply a special lure increasing your fishing by 10 for 10 minutes as well. This pole is Alliance only
Cost: 25 coins

Left Shark - Shark pet purchased at "good friend" status
Cost: 50 coins

Sea Calf - Sea calf pet purchased at "stranger" status (couldn't find on him where it said any status of friendship required so I'm assuming it's at stranger but if not please let me know and ill edit)
Cost:50

Angler's Water Strider - Mount equipment that doesn't require a friendship tier, gives your mount the ability to walk on water
Cost 47 Gold 58 Silver

Reins of the Crimson Water Strider - Mount purchased at "best friend" status
Cost 100 coins

Nat's Draenic Fishing Journal - Permanently increase your skill in Draenor fishing by 25 up to a max of 100
Cost 25 coins

All in all, it takes about 110 Lunkers to get all the way to best friend status with this Nat Pagle. When you have reached "best friend" you also receive the famed "Nat's Fishing Chair" in your mailbox as well! it is essentially a mirrored copy of the TCG fishing chair.

As always the level 3 fishing shack is still gated behind the achievement "Draenor Angler" which is still essentially the same, catch 100 enormous fish for each area, which unlocks the blueprints to the level 3 fishing shack. If you have already achieved this on another character and want to get the hat on an alt, this is not required a second time, and as of patch 9.1, you only need Draenor fishing skill level 80 for the quest "Luring Nat" to show up instead of max level like before.

Really hope this helped, new to Wowhead so sorry for any mistakes.

9/14/2021

Комментарий от biekdafreak

Just an idea if you're spending a lot of time fishing for lunkers. Do it around Sildhide spawn locations in Talador and try to get that mount while you're fishing for lunkers. I spent about an hour and a half there fishing. Got 13 lunkers and if I didn't take breaks to fly over the spawn locations would have had more. I ended up getting a Silthide spawn at 63,46 was able to one shot and get the mount. Now I'm looking for different places to farm lunkers as I need about 80 more.

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