1: Afaik they stack with anything, and are great when you don't have mana problems (note that it triggers a 3 min cd while managem triggers a 2 min one)

2: I am not too sure about its procrate, but it might be just as good for rogues, since a healthstone is the only thing they can use in the same category

side note: for some weird reason it can be used while mounted

Комментарий от Phelia

The ranged proc rate for these are fairly lousy. Wouldn't bother with them.

Комментарий от 22341

As a rogue, I made a fun macro. It casts Flame Cap, then Haste potion, then Blade flurry. It's pretty simple and a whole lotta fun.

#show Blade Flurry
/use Flame Cap
/use Haste Potion
/cast Blade Flurry

Комментарий от Darsh

There's some incorrect information here. As of patch 2.2.3, these do NOT trigger potion cooldown. The only cooldowns they trigger are Healthstones, mana gems, and other Herbalism items (Fel Blossom, Nightmare Seed, and I'd assume that Blood Elf stuff). Health/Mana potions and elixirs are unaffected.

Комментарий от 67872

they do anything with spelldmg, since it elemental dmg?

Комментарий от 11324

One thing to note is that using these puts your gem/health stone timer on a 3 min. cool down (as opposed to 2 min for using a mana gem/health stone). For a fire mage these are awesome for burst damage when combined with other cool downs like trinkets/combustion/heroism. When 2.3.2 comes I can't wait to try these out with heroism+icy veins+destruction potion+trinket+combustion >:).

Комментарий от 126903

Works in feral forms, unlike most consumables.

Комментарий от 124642

This comes in quite handy as a lock tank in the Leotheras fight as you will usually use searing pain to gain aggro when he switches to demon form.

Usually your healers should be able to keep you alive and a healthstone does not save you from dying so the shared CD is not really a problem.

Комментарий от alfonzzo

typically procs 6 times in a minute when i'm in kitty form doing ~45 damage each time.

That's a total of 270 damage over 3 minutes or 1.5 dps.

All in all, uninspiring...

Комментарий от 59295

Even with a Serpent-Coil Braid, fire mages will see higher dps popping flame caps and mana pots than mana emeralds and destro pots, since the flame cap buff lasts so long.

Комментарий от 84319

As a fire destro lock I've been using these during our timed ZA runs. We generally run w/ a resto shammy in the caster group so on each boss, when heroism is up, I use this along w/ a destruction potion -- very nice burst damage.

Комментарий от Cantras

These are one of very few things that proc for shapeshifted druids.

Sadly you can't eat one *while* shapeshifted, but if, for instance, you have to pop out and heal and shift back, it wouldn't hurt.

Комментарий от frmorrison

This can be used by melee dps to do a little more damage, however it uses the healthstone timer.

Комментарий от 159426

This item behaves exactly like destruction potions in terms of then you should use it.

For fights like Brutallus, M'uru, Shade of Akama, and Felmyst depending on your raid set up, this item is vastly superior over a mana gem for a mage with 4 piece t6. You shouldn't have mana issues, as your evocate will restore 80% of your mana now, and your shadow priests SHOULD be doing around 1200-1400 dps.

For instance, on fights like Brutallus, I use my Icon, combustion, icy veins, destro pot, and flame cap at the very beggining of the fight. I then use destro pots and my icon every time their cooldowns are up. I then save my 2nd icy veins, combustion, and this item for 20-25%. This puts me at about 1900-2200 dps atm (not done gearing) depending on my bloodlusts.

So, of course, this item is very situational, but on any fight where you don't have any mana issues (and have some extra gold lying around, flame caps and destro pots are very expensive on my server), flame cap + destro pot is the absolutely maximum dps you can achieve with consumables.

Комментарий от 158969

being pom pyro mage on curator was pretty fun
my macro was:

/Stopcasting (just so u can get this beuty away even if u got adds left)
/use 13/14
/use destraction potion
/use presence of mind
/use arcane power
/cast pyroblast

i already got the flame cap in
and i reallyed on mana pot
i did also got curse of elemental
and imp scorch on him

just the bad thing is that it never crited :(
but still nasty

Комментарий от Spah

Very handy for any melee class, Warlocks and Mages for fights where a healthstone/mana gem may be exchanged for that extra bit of needed DPS, ie: Reliquary of Souls.

Комментарий от 280141

It looks like wotlk hasn't brought any replacements for this, as the comparable fire seed does not share a cooldown.

So it would seem that in encounters where healthstones or mana gems aren't necessary, that these will still provide an advantage.

This seems rather stupid to me, especially since supply will be almost nonexistent. Or am I missing something?

Комментарий от painezor

Once a mage obtains 2 pieces of tier 7, then this item is negligible at best, as it shares the cooldown with the mana gem. Over a 6 minutes period, 225 spellpower over 15 sec can be used 3 times whilst 80 spellpower can be only be used twice.

This gives basically a choice between 80 fire spellpower for 2 minutes or 225 spellpower for all schools for 45 seconds and about 14200 mana back.

Комментарий от 248959

I still use these as a destro lock, and they are an awesome little dps increase for a minute.

Great when used with Bloodlust, Molten Core proc, and Potion of Speed.

(It shares cd with Healthstones)

Комментарий от Bandcamp

Blah... Was thinking I would compare this to my T7 2 piece bonus. (Mage)

Flame Cap 80 Fire SP * 60 seconds / 3 minute cooldown = 26.666 SP when you even it out.
Mana Gem 225 SP * 15 seconds / 2 minute cooldown = 28.125 SP also evened out.

So, for all you mages, stick with the mana gem. Sending a bunch of these to my Warlock now.

Комментарий от warrigt

Would this increase the dot effect of a Shaman's flameshock?

Комментарий от Jagr

This item no longer consumes your Mana Gem CD. Must have for fire mages.

Комментарий от Quafrinhage

As a matter of interest, is there a WOTLK or Cata equivalent to this item?

I consider these a must-have for my raids (I'm a Demo Warlock), and it comes as a surprise that these are largely overlooked by (or perhaps unknown to) many people.

Комментарий от 138086

in 4.0.3 an ensidia guide for (destro/demo) warlocks states:

Pop Flame Cap on cooldown.

Комментарий от 878376

Me self is still using that thing as Arcane mage linked in a macro with my flame orb.

The extra damage is maby very small but this thing does not share cool-downs with any of my CD and every extra damage even so small is welcome :)

Комментарий от sekunda

The nerf of Fire spec for mages is coming in 4.3.2

Комментарий от kitkat2

I have a question about this herb: I picked it using my herbing profession, it is listed as a herb on this website, but nowhere do I see that it's actually a herb. Can I use it in my alchemy or inscription like I do other herbs? Or is it strictly a buff only? I don't see any use for it listed as an alchemy or inscription mat on this site either.

Комментарий от Negaquark

The new profession system launched 2018-07-17 has made this impossible to gather. When you try, a red message states that you need 335 skill. There is no longer a skill past 300. I tried with my maxed herbalist, with no success.

Комментарий от Lazerz

yeah, it sure heckin does proc Vault of the Incarnate fire damage rings

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