Grabbed one the other day as no one else wated it, really should have had it DE'd for the group in hindsight.

imho a near worthless gem. Spell penetration is of limited use for either pvp or pve. The biggest problem with this gem is not so much that its bad, as that there are much more desirable gems for any purpose. For PvP you'll want Solid stars of Elune, and for PvE spell penetration is not really necessary at all.

If you need a little spell penetration, put a +20 chant on your cloak. theres not many other options out there that are better anyway, except for possibly 120 ac on your pvp cloak

Комментарий от Obsidian

Let me explain to you guys, why this gem shines. True enough, +5 spell critical is less than +8 from a Gleaming Dawnstone and true enough that spell penetration blows nuts in most cases.

However! +5 spell crit is only 3 less than +8 spell crit and this baby counts for a BLUE gem.

Why is that significant? Well, the Metagem with +14 spell crit requires at least 2 blue gems (and 2 red and 2 yellow). There are only 3 non bop gems ingame that counts as a blue gem, this is one of them. The other one being from hellfire peninsula pvp and the third dropping in shattered halls.

Комментарий от 45405

For the oddest reason, this gem dropped from Hungarfen in Heroic Underbog. At first i was excited i got it, but then i checked Atlas and realized it drops from the last boss, Black Stalker.

EDIT: I found out that Atlas isn't entirely right. This has dropped from any of the bosses, but Atlas says it drops only from the Black Stalker.

I SAID GOOD DAY

Комментарий от 42135

Its confirmed that all the Heroic gems now drop off all the bosses. This was updated in one of the recent patches and likely Atlas hasn't been updated yet.

Комментарий от 92757

Spell penetration isn't that useful a stat in pve, so for that (and for pvp aswell) I'd take Glowing Nightseye (+5 Spell Damage and +6 Stamina) over Radiant Cryosphase for those blue slots. For almost any setup and class it would yield a higher dps boost.

Find it here http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24056

Комментарий от wingsofscion

Spell penetration isn't very useful in very many situations, but it is usually one of the types of attributes that a warlock, shadow priest or mage can generally use (moreso than shamans or druids) in PvP situations, due to Mark/Gift of the Wild and Shadow/Frost Resistance Auras as well as Shadow Protection. It sees less value for shamans and druids, because nature and arcane are their primary damage schools (excluding the minimal frost/fire that shamans use), and only MotW, Aspect of the Wild and Nature Resistance Totem are the only things that mitigate damage from those schools, and almost guaranteed, a Shaman will use Grounding Totem, a hunter will use either Hawk, Viper or Monkey (depending on the situation) and MotW is easily dispelled.

Spell penetration is (currently) generally not considered a stat to stack for PvE in any situation, so this is not a gem for PvE casters to use.

Overall, it's a rather situational gem that is one of those "grain of salt" things; probably should be used by a warlock, mage or spriest if they're coming across a lot of resistances due to comps in arenas. This gem by itself negates all of a Blood Elf's racial resistances, or half of an Undead, Tauren, Night Elf, Draenei, Gnome or Dwarf's resistances.

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