One of my most favourite swords, if you like to take chances in your damage this is the sword for you, if your lucky and get that 200 strength boost you will easy dominate all of the mobs in your path as long as the buff lasts. Although, if you dont like to gamble, you should probably go for another sword in the auction house, but with the strength buff, this sword is legendary, in my eyes.

Комментарий от Mikezila

This sword isn't nearly as "bad" as people make it out to be. It's not gonna one-shot Rag or anything, but at it's level, it's not too bad. It's got built-in Crusader, and what's nice is that the effect stacks with an actual Crusader enchant, giving you massive strength if you catch both at the same time.

It's not worth the prices I usually see it listed for, but I would pay upwards of 40g, 50g for it. It looks cool if nothing else.

Комментарий от 10602

With the speed of the thing I chose a 2H fury build, thinking my gear was good enough for it (twinked out warrior from 40-49 bracket).

Boy was I wrong! Sure you can ratchet your DPS to really high levels but you need trinkets and rage and time to click all the buttons, and the mob is almost dead by then, or you're dead in PvP due to the lack of essential abilities like hamstring.

Honestly, if you've got more brains than me just go for the IBS in AV, arms dominates for leveling, and it allows you to do your fair share of PvP

Комментарий от 34364

Personally, given the BASE math, I think this weapon is great for its level and a few levels up.
I found mine by luck a year ago, and have been saving it for my paladin ever since. I've calculated a few things into the base of this weapon, given no increases through stats or anything, all raw data.

(112+168)/2/2.6 = 53.8 dps .. This is the base of the weapon
200 Str (Proc) = 57.1 damage added (1 str = 2 attack power)
100 Str (Crusader) = 28.5 damage added
Combined = 85.7 damage added

With Crusader
(140+196)/2/2.6 = 64.6 dps

With Proc
(169+225)/2/2.6 = 75.7 dps

With Crusader + Proc
(197+253)/2/2.6 = 86.5 dps

At that level, even if you believe the procs are very minimally seen, that is still a burst of large quantities of damage added to instant strikes and such in 10 seconds. On my paladin, I'd wager an 86.5 dps weapon at 52 (even if for a very short time) would make Crusader Strike hit very hard, regardless of the fast speed of the weapon. That's not my main concern though. As for me as a Paladin, white damage is sadly most of my gameplay, and this thing would kick out a bunch of good white damage due to its procs if Crusader is applied. Would make grinding very nice, in my opinion.

Комментарий от 45334

this sword with crusader is a must for all you paladins out there that crave some decent damage, if crusader and destiny proc thats +300 strength for 8-12 secs, you might get 5 or 6 hits in but you will crit very high

Комментарий от waxxyy

Witch one is better:

Iced Barbed Spear (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19106) - with CRUSADER ENCHANT

or

Destiny (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=647#add-your-comment) - WITHOUT the CRUSADER ENCHAT

I'm with this question in my head, and I'm gathering money to buy the DESTINY in AH, but the ICED BARBED SPEAR is a quest reward, then I can spend the money that i'm saving for DESTINY to put the CRUSADER ENCHANT on it... so I don't know if I buy DESTINY and wait a long more to catch more money 4 CRUSADER CHANT, or get the ICED BARBED SPEAR and put the CRUSADER CHANT at the same time...

what u guys suggest ???

Комментарий от 41236

Also drops off of Manaclaw. An lvl 58 elite dragon in a cave in Mazthoril in Winterspring. The fight wasn't too hard for a BM hunter. The dragon has 17k hp and does a frost attack. Very easy to take down. He does have a partial immunity to arcane spells.

Комментарий от Kefra

I'm not too sure about that. By level 52 a Retadin will have enough talent points to learn Crusader Strike. That ability, and Seal of Command, are dependent on slow weapon speed for maximum damage. Destiny, with 2.60 weapon speed, is one of the fastest 2-handed weapons you'll find. By all means buy one of these and slap Crusader on it if you have the gold (keeping in mind that by level 60, you'll find greens in Outland that make this thing obsolete). Otherwise, hold out for a slow, hard-hitting blue, or even a green.

Комментарий от 97840

I just picked this up for my 54 Prot Pally, for questing/grinding/killingfaster. I thought that JoW or JoL w/ SoC would be my best option for this weapon, but it isn't. Atleast not for me.

I have almost 200str and no Agi to speak of, dps set, and I was only able to do 100dps normal, and 150 ish when it proced.

however, JoC/SoR was yielding 150-180dps, and 200+ when it proced. which is a big improvement over the 50-75dps that i do w/ my tanking gear on. but with 8k armor at 54, you can't go wrong.

I plan on putting crusader on it, just couldn't find any righteous orbs, and can't solo Lstrat W/ my Spriest. I'm sure it will be much better after that.

Комментарий от 111538

IBS to me is nothing compared to this if you want to pvp.

Комментарий от 111538

Well i kinda changed my mind lol =) that comment was while i was still green. Yeah its too fast.. Not worth getting it. Get Blade of Misfortune. Its cheaper and better. Although if you are lucky.. This might be good lol. Proc right after proc.

Комментарий от Moklar

I'd love to get this on my Prot-Pala for killing single mobs.

This item is good for that BECAUSE of the speed since a Prot. Paladin probably has Reckoning and with it procing you'll get 3 extra attacks within the next 10 secs = nice holy damage.

Personally I have specced Imp. SoR so I can do better damage with a two-hander as well.

Комментарий от 126306

Human, MS Warrior Level 60. If acquired at level 52 with the crusader enchant, adding in Sword Specialization and the racial traits for humans and sword. I have to tell you, with the speed of the weapon, it procs so much in a battle (especially in Berserker Stance, with Whirlwind strike) I have had DPS like nothing I have seen. This sword is ideal for leveling, especially if grinding. Ice Barbed Spear is better for Elite mobs due to stat buffs and crits off of Heroic strike. Only slightly mind you. Add in elixirs like the one the moonkin in Winterspring drop on you and a nice Diamond Flask Trinket. You can do wondrous things with this sword. The reason the value is sort of low for an epic is it fairly easily drops, both on the world and in Dungeons; and the fact it is a very specific weapon for only a couple of classes at best. I have used it from 52 until 59 when some of the Greens from Outlands started to take over in my weapon locker. This thing is a meat grinder, an absolute terror in BG between 52-59 in Arathi Basin.

Комментарий от 162166

When i get to Level 60--->
Im gonna use this and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19334 With http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=46917

:P I guess that its gonna look cool =P

Комментарий от 162166

And im gonna put http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20034 to Bought of them and im gonna take some http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28550 with me

Isnt it cool?

Комментарий от danix

wish blizzard could "copy paste" this item with new stats (3.60-80 PLEASE!) in northrend.. such a nice sword.. just the cable looks horrible.. you hold on the middle of it.

Комментарий от 142233

The proc from this sword DOES stack, in case any of you 60 warriors were wondering.

Комментарий от Darthdavo

Titan-grippable!

Комментарий от 223074

Hmm thinking about Dual Wielding two of these at lvl 60 (Fury Warrior) and adding Crusader :-) Has anyone done that ?

Комментарий от 443661

This just dropped for my level 57 Paladin it was my very first epic would of liked to use it but I know when I go to outland I will just replace it so it's getting AH'd.

Комментарий от WoWLaMaO

looking cool

Комментарий от 568685

If only they'd have given us more classic-looking swords like this instead of that many swords made out of purple crystals and those butt-ugly green-quality swords in WotLK.

Комментарий от 326458

I just got one of these running my little bro through Strat off the very first pull of non-elites. I know it's not as potentially killer as it could be due to the speed, but I don't see an epic being completely useless. Anyone have any suggestions on what to do with it? What kind of character to give it to, and what enchant to stick on it?

Комментарий от Happyfaic

You guys are missing the point: It looks &*!@ing awesome. Invaluable RP weapon.

Комментарий от 859996

With the transmogrification feature being introduced in patch 4.3, this weapon could see a spike in interest due to its classic styling.

Комментарий от 885883

Just picked this up while solo'ing Blackrock Spire, think I'm going to hang onto it for a while :|

Комментарий от Agronok

Oh hush this doesn't look that great-

*Checks it on his Warr alt, DWing them with the Rare lv60 Warr PvP set*

*spits tea all over moniter*

Комментарий от Kefra

Let's compare Destiny to a level 51 Alterac Valley quest reward, Ice Barbed Spear.

This comparison assumes you intend to melt faces in the 50-54 bracket. But even if you're just leveling, you might still find the math enlightening.

Assume a character with 900 attack power. I figured, this pally, plus buffs being applied/dispelled/falling off, will average 900 AP running around the battleground. So...

With Destiny equipped, as calculated below, his or her base weapon damage would be 324-381:

Min: 112 + (900*3.3/14) = 324 (rounded to the nearest integer)
Max: 169 + (900*3.3/14) = 381

With a Crusader proc active (granting 100 Strength), you gain 200 AP. This increases the base weapon damage to 371-428. With Destiny’s +200 Strength proc, you gain 400 AP. This increases the base weapon damage to 418-475. With both procs active, you gain 300 Strength, or 600 AP. This increases base weapon damage to 466-523.

Now take the same character and swap out Destiny in favor of Ice Barbed Spear. The 13 Strength on the Spear grants 26 AP. Your base weapon damage, according to the calculations below, is 373 – 451.

Min: 155 + (926*3.3/14) = 373
Max: 233 + (926*3.3/14) = 451

With Berserking active, you gain 400 AP. This increases base weapon damage to 468-546.

Here is the above wall of text condensed into a few easy-to-compare lines:
Destiny: 324 – 381
Destiny + Crusader active: 371 – 428
Destiny + Destiny proc active: 418 – 475
Destiny + Crusader and Destiny procs active: 466 – 523
Ice Barbed Spear: 373 – 451
Ice Barbed Spear + Berserking active: 468 – 546

The Ice Barbed Spear wins mostly because it only needs one thing to proc in order to reach its maximum potential. Destiny won't have both procs active very often, and even when it does, IBS with Berserking up edges it out.

TL;DR If the price of Berserking < the price of Destiny + Crusader (or you have the mats and an enchanter handy), Ice Barbed Spear is a no-brainer. If AV is tough to win in your battlegroup, Destiny is honestly not half-bad.

Комментарий от 971257

could anyone tell me where this drop the most and on which creature?

Комментарий от 950049

It droped today in Sunken Temple, i was doing a run with my lvl53 hunter, all ready won a couple 1 and 2 hand swords. Dont really need them because I'm RDPS. Killing some trash it drop i thought pass the melee guy's can probebly use it, i saw the proc +200 Strenght. Then i got a bit qurious because an epic sword of some trash? I looked here and found out it's a pretty rare one.
Iff onley i knew that before i passed on it! -_-

Комментарий от PradelHD

Found this sword once, but couldn't sell it..

Комментарий от stickshift

Been farming on this transmog for two months now. Now I understand Dr. Frankensteins torment.

Комментарий от Romullus

Just got this off a Shifting Mireglob in SoS while pet hunting. Didn't even know they dropped it. o.o

Комментарий от 1214405

I've been searching for this damn weapon for months now, does anyone have it? Does it still exist in game? If someone does have it can I buy it off you please?

Комментарий от 1457847

for 90s mop capped warrios, this is potentialy BiS
the procs scales to 1.5k str, and the DPS provided is higher than WoD 4/4 crafted gear
since its not unique-eq, you can use 2 of these, but they are quite rare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJBedNv700w

edit: Неукротимый клинок 1.8k strength, the warrior on the video was using one of each

Комментарий от Wyr3d

It's not in the "dropped by" list, but I got this from a Scarlet Commander in the DK starter area just a moment ago.

Комментарий от lrust

Just got this beauty off of a Hive Regal Slavemaker in Silithus - You can still pick it up in game - I love how this one looks

Комментарий от jediwump

This just dropped for me from a Stonelash Flayer in Silithus. Random drop off of random mob.

Комментарий от Azkani

8.0.1 Dropped from Orcs in first section of LBRS

Комментарий от buffmepls

just dropped for me off trash mobs while clearing near Bannock Grimaxe spawn points in lower blackrock spire, 12/28/2018 total pleasant surprise.

Комментарий от fleischwolf

New Avalon DK starting Quest just dropped today :-)

Комментарий от MoiMori

this dropped of a nethergarde miner for me today, very cool sword.

Комментарий от Snarfroth

Purespring Elemental in Swamp of Sorrows for me today. Sweet deal!

Комментарий от Rozz22

dropped for me on my daily 10 runs of zul'farrak today as well as the searing golden blade pattern I have never seen. luckiest 10 runs of my life

Комментарий от xufoxpikmin

Dropped from the Auction house for 50k gold

Комментарий от xEllimist

Was looking at picking this up for my go at the Mage Tower on my Ret Paladin but.....does it drop any higher than ilvl 36? That's what's on the AH and all I've ever seen on the AH but if I understand the MT scaling, an ilvl 36 Destiny won't scale up.

Is it that strong at ilvl 36 to be useful for the challenge?

Комментарий от PunishedLeeches

Dropped from trash in Blackrock Depths.

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