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Комментарий от Sielinth I haven't raided seriously since MoP and I never really understood the draw to be at cap ASAP but hats off to those who will hit 120 in 24hrs or whatever break neck speed the community manages to archieve Комментарий от mybelovedchaos This is a nice quick rundown. GJ dudes, I do feel more prepared now! Комментарий от Walkerfin Time to get exp titanbar back it is great lvling addon it shows how much Xp to neeed to lvl up and how many mobs to kill and how many hours left time lvl up. Комментарий от TheWildebeest I haven't raided seriously since MoP and I never really understood the draw to be at cap ASAP but hats off to those who will hit 120 in 24hrs or whatever break neck speed the community manages to archieve\r
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try 6 hours Комментарий от 68doc I haven't raided seriously since MoP and I never really understood the draw to be at cap ASAP but hats off to those who will hit 120 in 24hrs or whatever break neck speed the community manages to archieve\r
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try 6 hours\r
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Few people were able to get cap at 5 hours and some change. o.O Комментарий от Walkerfin My plan is to get 120 lvl least 1 character in day 1 in 24 hrs. I hear stories some of players may get lvl cap in 6 hrs but i think they mostly use exploit and game glitches methods. Комментарий от AlakeiThancan My plan is to get 120 lvl least 1 character in day 1 in 24 hrs. I hear stories some of players may get lvl cap in 6 hrs but i think they mostly use exploit and game glitches methods.\r
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No, they simply get assisted by people and know their way by heart through playing the beta Комментарий от onvyr good stuff! as a returning player, i didn't know master loot is no more. Комментарий от gunsotsu what is wow doing about the community? i have not been able to raid since mists of pandaria due to the crumbling community. literally went from doing mythic raiding when it was current in MoP (heroics) to not even getting a raid tier completed at all for 2 whole expansions (at least on heroic). tired of it. the game is populated by nonsense people. IS BLIZZARD DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? how many times do i have to spend money to change servers every time i join some dead end guild over and over again?\r
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can someone provide me a list of servers and guilds that are actually good? \r
or am i going to spend all of bfa yelling at everyone in trade chat for ripping people off and gquitting guilds becasue i dont want to talk about the size of my junk all day? Комментарий от JolietJerry what is wow doing about the community? i have not been able to raid since mists of pandaria due to the crumbling community. literally went from doing mythic raiding when it was current in MoP (heroics) to not even getting a raid tier completed at all for 2 whole expansions (at least on heroic). tired of it. the game is populated by nonsense people. IS BLIZZARD DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? how many times do i have to spend money to change servers every time i join some dead end guild over and over again?

can someone provide me a list of servers and guilds that are actually good?
or am i going to spend all of bfa yelling at everyone in trade chat for ripping people off and gquitting guilds becasue i dont want to talk about the size of my junk all day?

Sorry, man, but this is on you and has zero to do with Blizzard. Stop staying in non-heroic dead-end guilds\/raid teams filled with "nonsense people" if that's not what you want to do.

I LFR'd my way through WoD because I didn't feel like joining a guild after jumping in half-way through an expac. That was my choice and I was happy. In Legion I was in a Normal difficulty guild for the first few tiers and then decided I wanted to challenge myself more but understood I got exactly what I signed up for up to that point. I realm switched, joined a mega-guild, and searched through the dozens of raid teams made up of quality people to find one that was a good mutual fit. We got AotC Antorus within a few weeks of the raid opening and ended up 5\/12 Mythic. Also, went back and knocked out several other achievements from Legion as a team. Good people by far outweigh the bad in the WoW community based on my experience over the last 3 years (unless you decide to immerse yourself in the negativity and become a part of it.)

Unless you are one of the top .01% on Wowprogress nobody is gonna come looking for you; if you want it you have to go get it yourself. I'd also suggest a change of attitude because based on your post who wants to give you a list of realms\/guilds that you can get into and infect with your abrasive behavior? Комментарий от Vanory what is wow doing about the community? i have not been able to raid since mists of pandaria due to the crumbling community. literally went from doing mythic raiding when it was current in MoP (heroics) to not even getting a raid tier completed at all for 2 whole expansions (at least on heroic). tired of it. the game is populated by nonsense people. IS BLIZZARD DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? how many times do i have to spend money to change servers every time i join some dead end guild over and over again?\r
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can someone provide me a list of servers and guilds that are actually good? \r
or am i going to spend all of bfa yelling at everyone in trade chat for ripping people off and gquitting guilds becasue i dont want to talk about the size of my junk all day?\r
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Depends on your region and faction. I can tell you from personal experience for EU that Kazzak, Draenor and Ragnaros are the best for horde ( also Tarren Mill although people are leaving that server for some reason so y ) and Silvermoon and Ravencrest for alliance. But if you expect blizzard to do anything bout it, they wont. The people you're complaining about are the very people the company caters to. And to be really honest, if you want to raid seriously you don't even need a guild anymore since the "guild" concept was abandoned in favor of communities this expansion, so you're better off finding a raiding community and raiding that way. Its not like you're losing out on essential raiding features like Master Loot since Blizz did away with them as well.\r
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just my 2 cents. Комментарий от culinund what is wow doing about the community? i have not been able to raid since mists of pandaria due to the crumbling community. literally went from doing mythic raiding when it was current in MoP (heroics) to not even getting a raid tier completed at all for 2 whole expansions (at least on heroic). tired of it. the game is populated by nonsense people. IS BLIZZARD DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? how many times do i have to spend money to change servers every time i join some dead end guild over and over again?\r
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can someone provide me a list of servers and guilds that are actually good? \r
or am i going to spend all of bfa yelling at everyone in trade chat for ripping people off and gquitting guilds becasue i dont want to talk about the size of my junk all day?\r
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People like this made me a little sad, it's like their completely oblivious that they are the problem and go life through expecting people and game developers to change everything just to suit them. Here's a tip. Learn how to make your own fun in the game and stop relying on others. If you can't, maybe quit and find another game? Комментарий от zazhuu what is wow doing about the community? i have not been able to raid since mists of pandaria due to the crumbling community. literally went from doing mythic raiding when it was current in MoP (heroics) to not even getting a raid tier completed at all for 2 whole expansions (at least on heroic). tired of it. the game is populated by nonsense people. IS BLIZZARD DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? how many times do i have to spend money to change servers every time i join some dead end guild over and over again?\r
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can someone provide me a list of servers and guilds that are actually good? \r
or am i going to spend all of bfa yelling at everyone in trade chat for ripping people off and gquitting guilds becasue i dont want to talk about the size of my junk all day?\r
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Have you ever thought that maybe YOU'RE the reason you can't clear the content? It seems like you're the common denominator here. Комментарий от gunsotsu what is wow doing about the community? i have not been able to raid since mists of pandaria due to the crumbling community. literally went from doing mythic raiding when it was current in MoP (heroics) to not even getting a raid tier completed at all for 2 whole expansions (at least on heroic). tired of it. the game is populated by nonsense people. IS BLIZZARD DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? how many times do i have to spend money to change servers every time i join some dead end guild over and over again?

can someone provide me a list of servers and guilds that are actually good?
or am i going to spend all of bfa yelling at everyone in trade chat for ripping people off and gquitting guilds becasue i dont want to talk about the size of my junk all day?

Have you ever thought that maybe YOU'RE the reason you can't clear the content? It seems like you're the common denominator here.

my complaints are legititmate. any serious wow player knows this game is not the same it used to be back in classic, that it has been declining. any serious good player knows the reasons behind this. so you can contnue to mock me, or you can answer my serious legitimate questions as to how it is blizzard is going to promote people doing content together as guilds as a community and put an end to the trollish nonsense that populates this game.. any serious player knows this is because blizzard gravitated towards lfr\/group finder\/dungeon finder and random premades - and that this has been the sole reason behind wow's declining community which is basically just full of people demanding stuff and receiving rewards for not even diong anything.

my question is legitimate and deserves a legitimate answer. if you don't wish to provide one, than don't. to be quite frank you can just ignore me and not comment and reply at all. Комментарий от sinangelus what is wow doing about the community? i have not been able to raid since mists of pandaria due to the crumbling community. literally went from doing mythic raiding when it was current in MoP (heroics) to not even getting a raid tier completed at all for 2 whole expansions (at least on heroic). tired of it. the game is populated by nonsense people. IS BLIZZARD DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? how many times do i have to spend money to change servers every time i join some dead end guild over and over again?\r
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can someone provide me a list of servers and guilds that are actually good? \r
or am i going to spend all of bfa yelling at everyone in trade chat for ripping people off and gquitting guilds becasue i dont want to talk about the size of my junk all day?\r
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Sorry, man, but this is on you and has zero to do with Blizzard. Stop staying in non-heroic dead-end guilds\/raid teams filled with "nonsense people" if that's not what you want to do. \r
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I LFR'd my way through WoD because I didn't feel like joining a guild after jumping in half-way through an expac. That was my choice and I was happy. In Legion I was in a Normal difficulty guild for the first few tiers and then decided I wanted to challenge myself more but understood I got exactly what I signed up for up to that point. I realm switched, joined a mega-guild, and searched through the dozens of raid teams made up of quality people to find one that was a good mutual fit. We got AotC Antorus within a few weeks of the raid opening and ended up 5\/12 Mythic. Also, went back and knocked out several other achievements from Legion as a team. Good people by far outweigh the bad in the WoW community based on my experience over the last 3 years (unless you decide to immerse yourself in the negativity and become a part of it.)\r
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Unless you are one of the top .01% on Wowprogress nobody is gonna come looking for you; if you want it you have to go get it yourself. I'd also suggest a change of attitude because based on your post who wants to give you a list of realms\/guilds that you can get into and infect with your abrasive behavior?\r
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This is a very good reply post, while it's really hard to find a "perfect" guild because people aren't perfect so you'll never find some form of virtual paradise when people and their imperfections are involved, I can attest if you do your research, you can climb the ladder decently high. I had a 2 year break from raiding due to IRL at some point and I went all the road back, from pugging normal through finding a guild raiding heroic, then when we cleared heroic I told them I want to try mythic and we parted ways. I've been through several mythic guilds since then, some disbanded, some went the direction I didn't like, some had drama - it's not perfect anywhere, but if you keep going, you'll usually find something at your level in the end. \r
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If anyone is wondering what is required: \r
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1. Do your research. Check websites like wowprogress, realm forums and so forth. Check how long a specific guild is around, even some casual guilds hang around for many expansions while others are like shooting stars. Don't join a guild created last week unless you're up for an adventure and possible disband. \r
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2. Start humble and go upwards slowly but steady. No one likes that guy who ditches a guild after 1 week. No one is also gonna believe you deserve to be in world top guild if you have no prior raiding experience, have very low level of it or it's quite old. So plan your route that you get necessary practice and experience in the process, but won't appear as a fickle guild hopper that always thinks grass is greener over the fence. You're helping the guild as much as they're helping you. Be respectful wherever you go. \r
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3. Define your goals clearly. Know what's important for you and what isn't. Sometimes you have to make compromises. If you know for example you're a person with lots of irl commitments or who often "doesn't feel in a mood to raid", committing to a guild might not be something that would fit you. In that case for example finding a community that casually raids could be a better option than trying to progress through complete pugs. \r
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4. Don't expect anything to be handed on a silver platter. This applies to both sides. Both to guilds that struggle to fill the roster but sit there waiting until someone suitable passes by, and to players who expect guilds to come to them and invite them. Also it's a good idea to talk with potential recruits (and recruits with the guild) to make a good impression. This is something I see a problem with from both sides - recruits have the pug mentality (hey I have x ilvl and curve can I get inv?) and guilds are often dismissive (if you're gonna treat recruits as "sigh yet another timewaster" don't expect anyone to be encouraged, even if 90% of the time you're right you're losing the potential 10% of players who you scare off with your unfriendly attitude). Комментарий от lwfpower what is wow doing about the community? i have not been able to raid since mists of pandaria due to the crumbling community. literally went from doing mythic raiding when it was current in MoP (heroics) to not even getting a raid tier completed at all for 2 whole expansions (at least on heroic). tired of it. the game is populated by nonsense people. IS BLIZZARD DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? how many times do i have to spend money to change servers every time i join some dead end guild over and over again?

can someone provide me a list of servers and guilds that are actually good?
or am i going to spend all of bfa yelling at everyone in trade chat for ripping people off and gquitting guilds becasue i dont want to talk about the size of my junk all day?

that's not on you (as other comments seems to blame you) this is on blizzard politics about having a end-game unique difficulty, most of my friends stopped playing WoW because of 20-Man raiding groups when we were used to have 10 to 15 people to raid, and now they just hate the game above all else even going to play some MMOs (IN MY OWN OPINION) that are really awful like FFXIV or B&S...

(don't bother waiting for me to read any comments saying "but FFXIV is good and all" i don't like it, I've played and just...well you know...hated it) Комментарий от Caras I haven't raided seriously since MoP and I never really understood the draw to be at cap ASAP but hats off to those who will hit 120 in 24hrs or whatever break neck speed the community manages to archieve\r
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The leveling's not super-interesting to me after the first few levels give me a feel for the new expack. For me, the game 'begins' at cap, hence the rush. That said, I can't just ignore RL, so capping by the weekend will have to be good enough this time around. Комментарий от Pandaabear what is wow doing about the community? i have not been able to raid since mists of pandaria due to the crumbling community. literally went from doing mythic raiding when it was current in MoP (heroics) to not even getting a raid tier completed at all for 2 whole expansions (at least on heroic). tired of it. the game is populated by nonsense people. IS BLIZZARD DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? how many times do i have to spend money to change servers every time i join some dead end guild over and over again?\r
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can someone provide me a list of servers and guilds that are actually good? \r
or am i going to spend all of bfa yelling at everyone in trade chat for ripping people off and gquitting guilds becasue i dont want to talk about the size of my junk all day?\r
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Have you ever thought that maybe YOU'RE the reason you can't clear the content? It seems like you're the common denominator here.\r
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my complaints are legititmate. any serious wow player knows this game is not the same it used to be back in classic, that it has been declining. any serious good player knows the reasons behind this. so you can contnue to mock me, or you can answer my serious legitimate questions as to how it is blizzard is going to promote people doing content together as guilds as a community and put an end to the trollish nonsense that populates this game.. any serious player knows this is because blizzard gravitated towards lfr\/group finder\/dungeon finder and random premades - and that this has been the sole reason behind wow's declining community which is basically just full of people demanding stuff and receiving rewards for not even diong anything.\r
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my question is legitimate and deserves a legitimate answer. if you don't wish to provide one, than don't. to be quite frank you can just ignore me and not comment and reply at all.\r
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Simply because you feel like this doesn't mean it's true tho. You seem to have had a very negative experience and at least some of it seems to be on you, from the way you act \/ write \/ behave.\r
And simply sayin' "Any serious player" as if that would convince anyone you know what a serious player is.. is pretty obnoxious.\r
While I agree that in the past there was more common that you could join any random group and people were more involved within the community, but I don't agree that most players now days are "trollish nonsense", whatever that means.\r
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If you are actually serious about finding a Serious or Good guild, then do your research. \r
You got wowprogress and there are discord servers dedicated to this kind of stuff.\r
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But I can tell you right now.. No serious guild will keep people with an "My opinion is better than yours"-attitude. \r
Weather you think it's better or not is irrelevant btw, that's the vibe you are giving off. Комментарий от Zombby I haven't raided seriously since MoP and I never really understood the draw to be at cap ASAP but hats off to those who will hit 120 in 24hrs or whatever break neck speed the community manages to archieve\r
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The leveling's not super-interesting to me after the first few levels give me a feel for the new expack. For me, the game 'begins' at cap, hence the rush. That said, I can't just ignore RL, so capping by the weekend will have to be good enough this time around.\r
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The new zones and story lines are always worth following and enjoying properly. Some will be better than others but they are all worth exploring fully first time out. Then you know what to skip or rush through because it didn't work for you.\r
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I never really get why people rush through everything as fast as possible: it has a negligible impact on end game "progression" (where we'll spend 99% of the expac anyway) and no one needs to hit max level to get crafting or making many golds on the AH any more. \r
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I for one am looking forward to the Kil'Tiras and Zandalar experiences, both stories and visual splendours from the excellent art team, not viewing them as a restriction to be bolted through asap to get to the shinies and the golds. Комментарий от IceCracker I haven't raided seriously since MoP and I never really understood the draw to be at cap ASAP but hats off to those who will hit 120 in 24hrs or whatever break neck speed the community manages to archieve\r
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The leveling's not super-interesting to me after the first few levels give me a feel for the new expack. For me, the game 'begins' at cap, hence the rush. That said, I can't just ignore RL, so capping by the weekend will have to be good enough this time around.\r
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The new zones and story lines are always worth following and enjoying properly. Some will be better than others but they are all worth exploring fully first time out. Then you know what to skip or rush through because it didn't work for you.\r
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I never really get why people rush through everything as fast as possible: it has a negligible impact on end game "progression" (where we'll spend 99% of the expac anyway) and no one needs to hit max level to get crafting or making many golds on the AH any more. \r
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I for one am looking forward to the Kil'Tiras and Zandalar experiences, both stories and visual splendours from the excellent art team, not viewing them as a restriction to be bolted through asap to get to the shinies and the golds.\r
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It depends entirely on why you play the game and what you find interesting.\r
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Personally, I enjoy the challenge of playing my class to its full potential and doing so with\/against other people in dungeons\/raiding\/pvp. The story doesn't interest me one bit, leveling content has always been tuned to the lowest common denominator, and I don't find the art to be anything particularly compelling.\r
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So for me, the "Kul'Tiras and Zandalar experiences" are absolutely a restriction to be bolted through ASAP. It's not about maximizing progression, it's about getting to the part of the game that I actually enjoy as quickly as I can. Optimizing my build\/route to level as quickly as possible is the only thing I find challenging, interesting, or compelling about the leveling experience.

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