Huzzah! I'm still A-tier and don't need to swap to Outlaw \o/
I feel like Beast Mastery is very underrated. I'm really curious to see if the scaling and corrupted effects will change that list
How about you play what you wanna play. Play with your friends. Work on what you enjoy most instead of switching to some FoTM class that you might not have fun on. This game is about you loving what you play. So, do that. Be merry. Like I said, play with your friends, they wont' care what you play. This whole fascination with "meta" comps, needs to go right out the %^&*ing window. Just like raider.io. Anyone can learn dungeons and become a better player with leadership and time. So, like I said, play what YOU, as the player, want to play. &*!@ lists like this.
Instant combat when entering nzoth realm, so vanish.... huzzah....Agree meta does exist for a reason, to be super effective while not being able to excel at other things
I only play Fury, Beast Mastery, and Balance, so I'm happy with my standings. Solid picks all expansion, take zero effort for excellent outcomes (Don't deny it, you know I'm right!), and are always fun. I feel bad for warlocks though. My favorite purple friends only exist as cookie vendors and taxi drivers now. I'll always see you guys as fun companions, even if you're useless outside of your utility!EDIT: +1 to hating on Raider.io, I've been denied runs from as low as +2 by literal one man party carries. Scum promoting scummy practices is what it is.
from my experience (former world 500 tank / atm chilling 800 solo via PUG keys) + watching several streams... i would like to add some things + explain my view of some choices Dratnos made here.S-Tier: is fine so far. But the double Hard CC via Sap and Blind is a mandatory in several skips / tactics. Cage is nice too.A-Tier: Balance druid i would not fit here. Utility wise YES. but the dmg 95% of player bring in keys with this class is a downgrade to them tier wise.B-Tier: Elementals i would say is as Strong as Balance. Dratnos missed here to mention that the Earth Elemental is very strong + Skips via Ankh ress / or wipes via Ankh could reduce the time in a key by very a high amount! Boomie utility/CR vs a Elemental Kick / anti fear is Tier-wise seperated by group / key / affix. BM hunters are C Tier they dont bring anything good thats needed (bring back CR) except theyre kick/class is ranged. summarized rest B-Tier except Fury the classes arent a Save choice vs the tiers below this .. not all played bring the dmg and use all their utility given here of this B-Tier.C-Tier: the 2nd biggest Pool of Classes... nothing Special here to say. Frost-DK could be as good as a Fury but super rarly seen. Shadows are as good as Elementals / Boomies .. but bring less Utility so there like C+ or B- Tier. Retri brings alot Utility in terms of Buffs/Blessings/Bubbles/Burst but often a S-Tier are choosen over them and they very common but rarely that good played .. the other 2 Pala speccs are a safer choice for m+. we will see if they will rise more with the Vision buff.D-Tier: Demo WL for me is a C-Tier .. it was the S2 Firemage ^^ sadly no Kick and m+ wise not often seen. Destro could be C-Tier too.D / E tier is removed ^^F-Tier: insert buffs / reworks here: Arcan / Affli / Survival Hunt / Arms .. (yes as Ex-Arms main i know he deals good dmg.. but tool-kit.. surivalbility theyre a hard class to help in m+ and the pulls arent that good to help him dps wise thx to cleave he can pull huge dot numbers .. Burst AoE build with warbreaker / Bladestorm is dead because u die in under 3 seconds to aggro in any cases. )closing words: as you can see .. S-Tier needs nerfs in terms of utility / survivalbility.. Scrolls needs removed ( maybe DH / monk buff too).... Battle Ress needs a comeback on all healers.. or at least on BM hunt. shroud should added for Hunters too Camouflage grp wide maybe mage too via talent! Rest of my words you can see in upper explanations
"play what you wanna play" is basically the first paragraph of this article.Yes and after the rest is what you should play if you want in a group for +2...Im playing enha, and literally destroyed every elemental shaman dps with the same gear as i am, so dunno who did analize the classes but rly someone probably outlaw or dh 3 button champion wannabe guy.
There are many good points made within this article but I am outraged you created a D & F tier list. Arcane Mage and Affliction Warlock are not the best and it's hard to stress that point within a list but just put them into a "needs reworks" tier list; additionally, placing Demonology/Destruction Warlock in the D tier puts even a bigger target on their back in combination with the already existing distaste. Essentially what I am trying to get at is you created two tier list's and with your reputation and knowledge of the mythic plus scene have just expanded the ripple effect that the MDI had created for those specs. Now, clearly this might not have been your plan and you were just trying to be the good guy; however, putting forward your two cents so you don't have to repeat this question ten million times during a stream, in my opinion, has just hurt every warlock in the pug life and, increasingly I might add, chances of key pushes with higher io players. Granted the article does mention "play what you want" but coming from a Warlock main you really should have added more information to some of the panels. For example, I am a Demonology player, so let us look at that panel: "Demonology is generally the strongest of the Warlock specs in Mythic Plus, as they are less cooldown dependant and their damage ramps up more quickly. They are happy about the Vision of Perfection buff, but they will continue to suffer from their inability to interrupt without losing damage, and the fact that their damage profile, without a DH or Monk or both, still compares poorly in Mythic Plus to the non-Warlocks." Many players don't realize that Demo Locks gain what Monks bring to the table but this is just one of many small thing's that could have been mentioned within your article to not just through an entire class right under the bus. All in all don't create a D/F tier list that will put ripple effects into a system that already hates that class and Arcane Mage. This is all my two cents though =).
so basically play rogue/dh from legion cause its still OP, feel like im in cata/mop version of the hunt but with more consistency for them am i wrong ?
"Fury is a Spec that I believe to be underrated, and one of the ones I'm most hopeful will outperform its C Tier ranking this season. With good damage at many pack sizes, and the unique strength of Death Grip, this is my sleeper pick for Season 4."Frost* not fury
This is really sad article. People should play what they enjoy playing, and not stopping playing Warlock just because some random article said so. I am sure people who actually gonna do competitive M+ do not need this article, and others just will get confused. Not to mention party leaders that will be declining chars, just because they're not A+ tier...