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Comment by cybernoid

5 minute duration on a 30-minute cooldown.

You carry a lava bucket on your back, plus you have an active ability, Lava Toss, with which you throw balls of fire around. Applies a slight burning effect to people!

Does not wear off in combat.

Sadly it gets you pacified/silenced for the duration.

Comment by Wuod

This toy may be bugged for some accounts or require something to unlock. I've recently passed 600+ kills of Invoq and have not seen it yet. If we assume wowhead drop chance is correct, my odds of seeing it 0 times are 1-( ( 1 - 0.03 ) ^ 600 ) = 0.0000000115, or about 1/100 mil. All counted kills were 1 kill after reset (i.e. mob having silver portrait and dropping other loot)

After contacting some collectors on WoW Achievements and WoW Secret Finding & Collections more people with unreasonably high kill counts were found (some went up to 850 kills before stopping, i.e. 0.0000000006% probability of not seeing a single drop)

Contacting blizzard support led to nothing but "grind our stuff more":

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Thanks a lot for getting in touch with us about this, I am really sorry to hear luck hasn’t been favourable to you recently, but such is the nature of the game when it comes to drops and loot. I absolutely understand the frustration though!

The ingame systems have been designed to drop loot randomly, based on a number of factors of chance. In short, this basically means there is never a guarantee of any particular item dropping, even after many attempts.

Take heart however, as the law of averages does mean eventually it will be gained, and this truly is a case of persistence pays off! I encourage that you keep trying and I am sure you'll get better items to drop for you.
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Please comment here if you've had some insane lack of luck too. And make and ingame bug report. The only way to get this fixed is to get some proof for devs

UPD: finished 750 kills, no toy in sight. Bug seems similar to black hair manuscript, and that one took 6 months to fix
UPD2: seems to be finally fixed in 10.1.7. Finally got it after 900+ total kills. Dropped at 23 kill after patch dropped

Comment by Murbastic

I had this x2 times before my manus script dropped, i had loads of kill before i got manus script.

I feel it's just low drop becouse it can even drop if u used one, compared to manus script it stops drops after it's used.

Comment by twixtedsisted

I've seen this toy drop many times. I saw one drop yesterday (6/23/2023) but it almost seems like it drops easily for some people and doesn't drop at all for people like me. Ive been farming this since the first week of patch. It cant be just rng. I feel there is a bug but not sure why certain accounts are affected. Please report bugs if you are in the same boat as me. I dont know how else to get Blizzard's attention.

Comment by Neyon

Rarity string:
AV4xXlReU2l0ZW1zXlReTjReVF5TZXhwb3J0XkJeU21ldGhvZF5TTlBDXlNxdWVzdElkXlReTjFeTjc1MzM2XnReU25hbWVeU01vbHRlbn5gTGF2YX5gUGFja15TbnBjc15UXk4xXk4yMDM2MjdedF5TY2hhbmNlXk4zMC43NjleU3R5cGVeU0lURU1eU2luc3RhbmNlRGlmZmljdWx0aWVzXlReTjBeQl50XlNpdGVtSWReTjIwNTc5Nl50XnReU3NpZ25hdHVyZV5TUkZJMlBENGpPakowTm50Z0luYy9aQT09XlNidWlsZF5ONzE4XnReXg==

Comment by Andarist

Please send in bug reports. Mine was answered with a generic "I don't know of any bugs in regard to that item" - of course, dear support guy, you don't know of any bugs in regard to that item when you and others just ignore reports, instead of at least creating an internal note that this MIGHT be bugged.
Seems like they haven't seen enough reports, so please help bringing the issue to their attention!

Comment by Soeroah

It feels like groups for this rare have really dropped recently. Harder and harder to get kills. I hope everyone is at least reporting the bug.

Comment by Natheedo

After farming that every 4 days with 24 alts for weeks/months now, i've decided to give up on that.

Got nearly 400 kills and i'm burned out. Its the only thing i miss in zaralek caverns. But it wont drop, i dont know if its bugged like suggested here in other comments or the drop rate is so low, like to begin from world bosses. Either way, something is broken here.

Finding groups is sometimes a test of patience meanwhile.... I can only hope that will be fixed ASAP and not in months/years like other bugs :/

Comment by Ellezanor

To add to the theory that this is bugged if you have the manuscript. I have over 250 attempts post manuscript on this rare and no toy drop. A friend without the manuscript came and joined me, got the toy first kill and was nice enough to trade it to me.

Comment by SaSkIn

Edit: 21.09.2023 it dropped for a dude in my party, he gave it to me. Good luck guys

Comment by Nocfolic

I will add my voice (and tickets) to this toy droprate. I have been farming this since zaralek was released. So i farmed this rare everyday before it became what it is today which is every 4th day. The addon rarity updated recently showing the killcount and on this addon i have 55 kills. That number must be closer to 400+ as i farm this rare almost everytime it is up with all my alts. I currently have 8 that i use to farm this, and that number grows as i level more. I have the drakewatcher manuscript.

Right now im testing this theory about no drops after youve learned the manuscript with a friend who hasnt learned this and we are doing it with 3 of his characters every 4 days. No drop for him so farm and he has killed invoq 18 times now. He had the manuscript drop twice.

This must be bugged. If not this is extremely unlucky for some of us!

Edit: I got the toy on my first kill after people here said it was fixed. Great :D

Comment by Tsok

I just looted it after all this time... I'm farming it from day 1 of the patch with more than 5 characters every week. I am not counting kills but i believe i easily have more than 100 kills in total. At some point i visited the comment section here, read about the possible bug with the manuscript and and i decided to open a ticket asking a gm about it. He answered me this:
"From what I have gathered, you would like to know the drop rates for Molten Lava Pack as this item is being quite stubborn to drop.
As of right now, there is no confirmation if there is a bug with the drop of Molten Lava Pack, and for now we believe the item just has a low drop rate.
I understand your frustration as you try to farm this item and it keeps not dropping, since this particular item has a lower chance to drop due to its rarity. Keep in mind that us Game Masters do not have information on drop rates nor can we alter the drop chances for our players."
I got tired and discouraged with this so i stoped farming it after the last reset. Today i got my Monk at 70 and i brought him to caverns to farm some gear. Passing by Invoq i thought lets give it one last try. He was the first rare kill that i did with this character (don't know if that matters) although it is in the same account that have learned the manuscript, but it still droped! It happened 14 days after 10.1.7 released. I'm not realy sure if they hotfixed it or something but it seems to drop even with the manuscript collected now. I thought sharing my experience, to answer to people asking if there is someone that looted it after learning the manuscript. All i can say is im glad im done with this and wish everyone that is still farming it, good luck with this!

Comment by Wuod

Good news everyone! Molten Lava Pack toy from Invoq seems to be stealth-fixed recently. Just got it on a 70 character with 50+ kills, on an account with 900+ kills total (some were with addons turned off, but I've seen him up a total of 1278 times). I had the manuscript for like 4 months so that theory no longer works.

It was my 23 kill after 10.1.7

All in all only took blizzard just 4 month to fix.

For those of you, who can't find a group and want to solo Invoq while he's current. You can do it at around 410 ilvl on most classes (rogue slightly higher, hunt and tanks - lower). Just look up a single target build, and swap some talents to have self-healing. After that, just try to avoid getting melee hit / frontal and do not interrupt. His cast deals like 5 times less damage even with a fully stacked dot, than his melee swings. On casters - you can infinitely kite him, and most melee have ways to passively heal.

Comment by KazzakMonk

The bug related to this toy was that IF you get the manuscript first - you will NEVER get the toy 2nd. Opposite was fine. It is now stealthly fixed, and all the people (like me) who have hundreds and hundreds of kills get nothing.
Normally when such things happen you boost the drop rate to 10-15% so everyone will get very, very fast. Anyway after 20-30kills it should be yours now, so having 3-4 alts would not take more than a week.

Comment by Kanai

Just dropped for me also, had been farming this toy with 20 alts before spawn nerf. Really had given up on this upon spawn nerf. Invoq was up while farming gold quest and said: What the heck, lets give it a go! AND IT DROPPED!

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Molten Lava Pack

Item Level 1
Binds when picked up
Toy

Use: Equip the pack, allowing yourself to toss fast-cooling lava at your "friends". It won't hurt, but is still hot! (30 Min Cooldown)

Dropped by: Invoq

Drop Chance: 3.38%

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