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Как я понял: "Вразумляя, не усердствуй!" :D
Не убивайте слишком быстро. Нужно стандартно опустить ХП оппонента до 50%, а там сопутники/соратники убедят.
З.Ы. Работает, как всегда, не всегда, простите за тавтологию. Рандом присутствует. ;)

Quest Name:	Start and description
1 Душа паладина	Start Quest from Тениос 62 25 Korthia. Now You need to go to Torghast and use Путеискатель 37 46. On Floor 3 You need to kill Хранитель Хазадуум then use Портал душ 33 28 to pick up Фрагмент правосудия 40 30. Then leave Torgast and move to Bastion 40 19.
2 Болезненные воспоминания	Press on Фрагмент правосудия 40 20 next to Uther, cinematic will start.
3 Шаг в круг Света	Use Зеркало души 40 20 next to Uther. You will be move to Uther's memory. First If You don't see Extra Bar You need to turn off addone ( mine was Dominos and is just for this quest after you can turn on ). When You have Extra bar press it under Gold mark after ceremony open door then kill 10 mobs and destroy 6 Зараженное зерно ( use extra bar spell ). Skill 1 - single dmg, 2-3 AOE dmg skill 4 to move.
4 Он был моим учеником	Use Зеркало души 40 20 next to Uther. You will be move to Uther's memory. After conversation defeat Артас Менетил to 40%.
5 Я собираюсь жить вечно	Use Зеркало души 40 20 next to Uther. You will be move to Uther's memory. Slay 10 mobs and rescue 5 citizens /way 42 65 /way 41 66 /way 42 68 /way 45 71 /way 45 73 . After that go to fight with Артас Менетил 45 69 ( You can't win xD )
6 Слепая верность	Use Кирия-гонец 40 19 to get to Elysian Hold and speak with Полемарх Адрест 55 42 cinematic will start.
7 Сострадание и преданность	Go to 24 30 in bastion.
8 Возвращение анимы	Next 3 quest together. Get 5 Тронутое порчей ядро центуриона is drop from Mechanical mobs: Автоматическая защитница, Темный часовой and Ненасытный стражник.
9 Возрождение веры	Convince 10 Forsworn to return to the Path. This better to do solo if you kill them to fast you will not convince them, they get convince when low HP by them self.
10 Нацеленная решимость	First press on 2 Передатчик анимы /way 24 22 /way 22 24 then press on 2 Экстрактор анимы /way 22 23 /way 22 22 then on 2 Привратный колокол /way 20 21 /way 20 24 . Return Quest to Полемарх Адрест 20 22 use flying He is floating in the air.
11 Колокольный звон	Defend him by slaying Арсо'ун Узник
12 Триумфальное возвращение	Meet Polemarch Kalisthene 37 61 at Elysian Hold. Use Кирия-гонец 20 22 to get there.
13 Почетный прием	Speak with Polemarch Kalisthene 37 61 at Elysian Hold. You will be teleported. Now speak with Утер, Миканикос, Клейя and Пелагий after that 4 speak with Polemarch Kalisthene 56 30
14 Новый путь	Speak with Polemarch Kalisthene 56 30 you will be teleported, then speak with Kleia 43 67 cinematic will start.
15 Новая печать кирий	Speak with Примас In Korthia. Use Anima Gateway To Oribos 50 71 if need it.

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Thank You i Hope that Help You :).

Комментарий от WhateverName

I'm here to admire the brilliant, brilliant writing. So, after admitting that Forsworn were basically right and it is indeed a good idea to keep the memories, we are trying to convince them to join Kyrian (which admitted to being wrong in the first place) once again, by beating the living crap out of them, or eventually killing them if they refuse. Man oh man, if this doesn't make you feel like a terrorist, I don't know what will.

Комментарий от snivels

Cancer 101.

Комментарий от Mepoc

Your two companions actually deal out quite a bit of damage, so make sure you leave the Forsworn with enough hitpoints, that they have time enough to change their minds, before Uther and Nikolon kill them.

Комментарий от cjane

The quest itself is fine, but the way you have to progress in it is so dumb that on the world competition of dumb things it'd get second place, cause it's too dumb to get the first.

As an unholy DK I've dismissed the ghoul and used autoatack on elite mobs. They live long enough to listen to what Nicolon is trying to tell them. If the mob says something like "I'll never trust Archon again" - kill them, they cannot be reasoned with.

Комментарий от Nightengel

Did anyone else notice some of the forsworn speaking in Demonic? Kind of suspicious on what that's all about.

Комментарий от geekygirlish

Not convinced this isn't random whether they convert or not. Like looting for something. Doesn't seem to matter how long they live having done this on a few alts. VERY difficult to do at rush hour as everyone is tagging everything and multi killing. And some people just being jerks killing your mob on purpose. Best way I found was to find a quiet corner off at the far end and just keep tagging the same respawns

Комментарий от krisCrash

Don't hand this quest in first if you want to keep Uther and Nikolon around for dealing with the centurions. They'll immediately leave when you do.

Комментарий от Naxramas

They still manage to design poor/broken quests. Way to go Blizzard.

Комментарий от Lillystotems

Alright, so, after getting very frustrated with my results I think I have figured out the best way to get this quest done quickly. Give Uther and Nikolon multiple elites/non elites to pound so they stay alive long enough to "choose."

Комментарий от Katorga

Did anyone at Blizzard play these quests?

1. Elite area with Elite mobs that will kill you if you're not careful
2. You also have to damage the mobs enough to get them to change
3. High chance they WON'T so you have to kill them
4. You would think they would give you buffs to not die or DPS more, lol no.
5. If you turn this quest in first before doing the Reclaimable Anima quest, Uther and Nikolon leave and you have to solo the Elite centurions.

Комментарий от robben1243

This quest was designed by a sociopath.

Комментарий от mcquilliams

This quest very well be the reason I quit this game. Nothing fun about it. 30 minutes in and only halfway done. Gross.

Комментарий от ilFrollo

if this is taking too long, you're probably killing them too fast.

The idea is to "convince" them to repent, by kicking their asses. They need enough time to change their minds.
You will see a debuff they get after Uther speaks one of his lines: Seed of Doubt.
Once this is applied, they will repent and count for the quest. You must give them enough time for it to be applied, and don't kill them before they get it.
Aggro them, then have Uther and the other one deal with them. Don't kill them too fast.

This way it should go much faster.

Комментарий от Markoswan

This quest is ultimate proof that the devs don't play their own game.

Комментарий от Elitecookie

Yet another one of these absolutely dogs#%t quests where you get stuck at 8-9/10 and killing more than double the population in these locations. Lazy devs relaying everything to RNG for the 100.000.000th time in a row. Doesnt matter if i dps them slowly either like other suggest. Terrible, horrible, horrendous.

Комментарий от alpanhell

Kind of a stupid quest from a story and just logic sense (not to mention all the wonderful RNG).

We beat them, why would we spend too much effort on ones that want to fight still. They lost.
The whole thing is kind of silly, literally they've been doing it this way for eons and somehow we're supposed to believe that poor Uther breaks the mold?
Why would you want all these forsworn back who are literally traitors and killed your compatriots?

One of the things I originally liked about this xpac, at the beginning at least, is it seemed to put Azeroth in its place (not the center of the universe). But now we're back to Azeroth at the center again.

Edit: After doing this quest on several of my toons this quest gets my vote as the worst one in this xpac so far. This is the kind of quest that you want to force a Quest Designer to have to play themselves over and over again...

Комментарий от donquixote235

They should have called this quest "Until Morale Improves, the Beatings Will Continue".

Because that's basically what this quest is about... beat the $#!+ out of them until they either die or "see the light".

Комментарий от Lightbrand

Kill 100 aspirants to convince 10. Sounds more like a Culling eh Uther? *Elbow jab*

Комментарий от AphelionZero

Attack the elite Ardent Warriors, they live long enough to count. The Assuming Scholars can summon in adds that can make things really hectic.

If there was a book, a guide for game developers to help them make better games, this quest would used as the perfect example of what to NEVER do. Ever. It's horrible. It isn't fun. It doesn't make any sense to the story. It's a useless, frustrating time sink that teeters on the brink of being a reason to unsubscribe completely. Whoever came up with this vomitus mass should feel bad about themselves and worse about choosing to become a game developer.

Комментарий от Rusty5p00n

Garbage quest which is one of many in the Shadowlands Expansion, does question if the Devs do actually play their own game.

Anyway, I found a ring of Aspirants around 27,27, if you aggro them one at a time then let Uther and Nikolon aggro them ( and you stop doing damage), they 99% of the time become convinced.

I had 6 in a row and completed the quest quicker then attacking mobs elsewhere.

Комментарий от Plufproop

This really is the most pisspotical quest I've come upon in a while, among a whole pantheon of pisspotical quests that were designed for Shadowlands.

What on earth were the developers thinking when they made this? I sincerely hope the person who created this quest was one of the Blizzard staff who sent a female colleague a @#$% pic and got sacked.

It really is dreadful, for all the reasons mentioned in this thread. Just terrible.

Terrible concept, absurdly hard, utterly ridiculous, very low chance of getting one of the ten you need, and so on. 0/10. And that's being kind.

Комментарий от Brightlink

This is the weirdest advice i'll ever give but undress before you start this quest. With a lower ilvl they die slower. They died with my ilvl this high even though i wasn't fighting them. The 2 helpers apparently also fight weaker if you're weaker. So STRIP baby!

Комментарий от jatharak

Guide on completing this quest (DO NOT KILL)

Only aggro or pull one mob at a time
Group play won't help here - go solo
As a Prot Pally (or any other toon) - all you have to do here is aggro the mob and then stay behind uther or nikolan --- this works...just keep doing defensives. do not attack. let uther and nikolan take the aggro.

Комментарий от Elizavetta

This has got to be one of the worst quests I've ever done in my 15 years of playing WoW. It's just plain boring and bad design.
As a druid I ended up attacking the mobs initially to tag them but then went into bear form and just sat there while Uther and Nikolon were either able to convince them or kill them eventually. There was nothing engaging/fun about it, just waiting around for RNG and as is the case with a lot of max level RNG based quests, it takes ages.

Not to mention the fact that we're there to convince these guys that everything's all good now and they can keep their beliefs and memories if they join us. But if they don't, we kill them?

As an added side note, the area and the hostile mobs don't change after this quest because it still has to be used as a world quest area. They could have at least added some kind of phasing.

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Раскольники не находят себе места, <имя>. Они скитаются по храму Верности, словно забытые призраки. Им просто некуда идти. У них больше нет лидера, указывающего цель. Мы должны дать им надежду на будущее. Я пойду в храм с тобой. Позволь мне поговорить с ними. Я знаю, что они сейчас чувствуют. Быть может, выслушав нас, они захотят следовать новому пути Адреста.

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