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This talent is somewhat addictive; a 4 second cooldown on Stealth is very easy to get used to, thus hard to let go of. Very useful in PvP situations where you'll often be clacking your teeth while glaring at the remaining cooldown - especially if the enemy is heading towards you at the same time. Also good in PvE situations to avoid getting caught by patrols.

Комментарий от FailTrain

This talent is somewhat addictive; a 4 second cooldown on Stealth is very easy to get used to, and hard to let go of. Very useful in PvP situations where you'll often be clacking your teeth while glaring at the remaining cooldown - especially if the enemy is heading towards you at the same time. Also good in PvE situations to avoid getting caught by patrols.

Комментарий от FailTrain

Комментарий от Tuffrox

does this stack with night elf elusiveness? which increases stealth movement speed by 5%?

Комментарий от Heaj

Does Quickening's speed buff negate Nightstalkers'? They obviously don't stack, but if I max Quickening, will that give me a 15% increase in unstealth AND stealth speed?

Комментарий от guatafu

I know the names changed but before Cata the name of the talents were Fleet Footed and Camouflage; unless blizzard made nerf here Nightstalker and Quickening should still stack.

Комментарий от Yakeshi

They nerfed our stealth effectiveness too... </3

they took our proverbial rogue balls...

Комментарий от ExperimentX4d2

In 4.1, this will increase speed by 10% and reduce CD by 4 seconds

What it doesn't say is that Stealth in 4.1 will have no speed penalty (i.e. running speed = stealth speed), and will have a 4 second cooldown.

So…… no cooldown and u run faster stealthed than running……

Is blizzard bloody serious…

Комментарий от Leonin

So what? Rogues now get stealth that doesn't cause any sort of movement issues? And on top of that a 10% movement bonus? Talk about ninjas! Let's see how long this one lasts...
One more thing, did I mention that it's tier 1 sub. So it's available to all rogues.

Комментарий от ExperimentX4d2

Well in that case, a message to all the none-rogues out there……

Enjoy the Buttrape! I know I bloody will!

Комментарий от Drain7

At the moment, with talents, it's 96% speed in stealth. If you want the formula:
70(Base) x 1.15(Move affects multiply) + 15(Nightstalker adds a flat value while in stealth), which = 95.5%.(Quick+Night STACK. Quickening won't stack with any other normal move speed buff, ie move enchant, but Nightstalker has its own special slot.) So with both talents you currently run at 96% in stealth, almost normal.

After the patch, the penalty for using stealth is being removed, and Nightstalker is being nerfed to 10%. This changes the formula to:
100(Base) x 1.15(Quick) + 10(Night), which= 125%. You'll be at 125% while stealthed, while running without stealthed will still be at 115%.
125% move speed while stealthed, faster than NORMAL RUN SPEED? LOL. I'm lvling my Rogue right now. It's going to be awesome.

So this is 96% pre change(Almost normal), and 125% after.(FASTER than normal) Keep in mind that normal run speed, for most people, is 108%. (100 x 1.08)

Комментарий от gorden23

Wonder if this means they'll remove the speed buff from shadowstep? This is just gonna be an awesome talent, I really can't wait.

Комментарий от Brasso

With 2/2 in this talent and 2/2 Quickening, my rogue moves at 115% unstealthed and 126% stealthed. After stealthing, you cannont unstealth immediately (aside from using abilities) and restealth as Stealth has a 2 second CD.

Комментарий от NightmareMJ

Actually this talent stacks multiplicatively, not additively so take your movement speed with buffs and multiply it by 1.1, if you are a worgen take that final new movement speed and multiply it by 1.1 with a swiftness pot you move faster during worgen sprint than any movement speed buff available(Aside from engineer's boots).

EDIT: strike that worgen sprint is the top most multiplicative speed enchance and will trump nightstalking while active but you will still move at 210-220%

So a holy paladin using aura mastery is sill the fastest class, but rogue evens with the other fastest(while stealthed!)

Комментарий от VindicoSolus

Yes, Скороход and Ночной ловец stack.

EDIT: For some reason, this post is showing Скороход when using the MoP domain but is showing the correct spell, "Quickening", in Wowhead's default domain: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=31209. Sorry for the confusion ^-^

Комментарий от VindicoSolus

Yes, Скороход and Ночной ловец stack.

Комментарий от BlueRobe

I remember when a Stealthed Rogue moved at a painfully slow crawl.

Now, with this talent, Stealth is the optimal means of movement for pre-mount levels. And the increased movement speed provides a lot of utility for those hunting EFCs/bases and running bombs in BGs.

Комментарий от Grozgrr

Does the damage increase apply to Shadow Dance?

Комментарий от Qoko

Though slightly weak for both PvE & PvP, Nightstalker shines during soloing in combination with Внезапный порыв. Explanation given on the BoS page.

Комментарий от slyrus

Named after the greatest game ever made on one of the greatest console build back in the days. Nightstalker on Intellivision. Enjoy the easter egg, cheers!
http://gamerinvestments.com/video-game-stocks/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/intellivision-night-stalker.jpg

Комментарий от MartinX60

Any DoTs still on the target before Vanish, are they increased when you turn stealth? I can't really tell.

Комментарий от Leoji

Ok guys a little update on this talent for 5.4 and some clarification.

Firstly the speed increase stacks with night elf racial, Скороход and even the shoe enchant.
Note: Once you gain Скороход this overwrites any shoe enchant speed increase so you can't stack all 3 together.

The damage increase portion of the talent is straight forward. Despite what most info says from old patches and other sites this does actually work with all damage from stealth that I have tested. Ambush, Garrote, Rupture, Fan of Knives, Crimson Tempest, Throw, Evicerate/Envenom and your specs combo builder.

This is great use for single target and AoE situations and the speed is a nice utilty. For single target just use your normal priority attacks, but a tip for AoE is FoK from stealth build up to 5 combo points vanish then crimson tempest from stealth and carry on doing what you do :)

Комментарий от Carionom

Speccing this talent will make you hold your weapon upside down in stealth when your weapons are unseathed to make it pierce instead of shank.
Funny to have it have an animation. Or it could be a bug, who knows

Комментарий от bjornbjornbjorn

This Enchant Cloak - Gift of Versatility with Tuskarr's Vitality is the only way to fly. On my worgen rogue, I have Darkflight, Sprint, Glyph of Sprint, Nightstalker (despite Subterfuge having more utility when you're not running to and fro), and finally I gather enough Swiftthistle and Briarthorn to have virtually unlimited Speed Pot available for a grand total 188% increase, or rather 288% speed whenever some guy/gal on a mount thinks s/he's all that (Darkflight does not stack with sprint, just use it when sprint runs out of gas). This does not begin to take into account Fleet Footed and Preparation. I ALWAYS get the first flag, or even when I'm feeling generous get halfway to the next flag first before having to stop and pop Running Wild (again no mount necessary) to finish my way to the second flag well before any smelly horde gets there. Rogue ftw. /grin /cackle

Комментарий от rodalpho

The devs told us exactly how Rogue abilities work in PvP at the link(s) below.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747314610#2

I'm pasting it here as they typically delete the beta forums after release.

Crimson Vial heals for 50% in PvP
Death from Above increases the effect of Envenom, Run Through and Eviscerate by 25% (down from 50%)
Nightstalker increases ability damage by 25% in PvP (down from 50%)

Комментарий от Egeiro

Not sure if there's a bug or a data-mining error, but the Stealth damage bonus looks like it is only 12% (not 50%). The tooltip I see in game says that you deal 12% more damage, and when I test on a target dummy, 12% is much closer to the actual damage bonus I see in my Combat Log, so the in-game tooltip seems correct, and the ability tooltips that I am seeing on Wowhead & Icy Veins are incorrect. (Icy Veins even put 12% in its talent selection guide write up, though its tooltip still says 50%.) I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this.