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У берегов Восточных королевств расположен остров Тол Барад — земля с богатой историей, которой домогаются вожди лидеры Орды и Альянса. Благодаря выгодному положению — Тол Барад отрезан от материка — остров представляет собой идеальный плацдарм для военных вылазок. В World of Warcraft: Cataclysm за эту стратегическую территорию развернется битва, которая принесет победителю неслыханные награды. Предлагаем вам обзор этой новой площадки для PvP и заданий, которые вы можете здесь получить.
В эпоху Второй войны между орками и людьми тол-барадская крепость Стромгард выступала в качестве форпоста Альянса и служила отправной точкой для боевых операций. Затем остров был захвачен Ордой, а крепость разрушена. Несколько лет спустя Тол Барад заняли выходцы из Кул-Тираса. На развалинах древней цитадели они возвели магическую темницу, где держали вражеских магов, демонов и прочих особенно опасных преступников.
Большинство обитателей Азерота до сих пор не подозревает о существовании этой тюрьмы. Но после вселенского катаклизма, когда соперничество между Ордой и Альянсом обострится до предела, все изменится. Тол Барад снова станет ключевой площадкой — местом сбора смертоносной флотилии, которая отправится осаждать вражеские крепости в Восточных королевствах. И Орда, и Альянс готовы заплатить за владение ею кровью. Какой фракции достанется победа на истерзанном войной острове?..

Битва за Тол Барад
Тол Барад — территория для PvP под открытым небом, по аналогии с Озером Ледяных Оков. Кроме того, на полуострове Тол Барад выделена зона, где обеим фракциям будут предлагаться ежедневные задания. Попасть на Тол Барад можно будет через порталы для телепортации в Оргриммаре и Штормграде, а также через порталы, которые смогут открывать маги 85-го уровня. В ожесточенном сражении смогут принимать участие до 80 игроков с каждой стороны. В отличие от озера Ледяных Оков, на Тол Бараде не будет эффекта «Упорство». Вместо этого вводится система очередности, которая призвана оптимизировать состав участников с обеих сторон с точностью до одного игрока. Битвы, в которых нападающая фракция получит возможность отвоевать остров у защитников, будут проводиться раз в два с половиной часа.

Механика игры на Тол Бараде выстроена вокруг захвата точек. Оборону острова обеспечивают три крепости и три башни: их удерживают защитники. Когда атакующая сторона уничтожает одну из башен, к стандартной продолжительности боя — 15 минут — добавляется еще 5 минут. Фракция объявляется победителем, когда захвачены и удержаны все три крепости. Если нападающим не удается овладеть всеми крепостями, победа достается защитникам острова. Как и на поле боя «Око Бури», захват крепости на Тол Бараде определяется количеством игроков, которые находятся в ней. Однако есть и новое правило: каждый раз, как представителя вашей фракции убивают в непосредственной близости от крепости, индикатор преимущества смещается в сторону противника. Таким образом, имеет значение не только количество игроков в крепости, но и то, сколько союзников вы потеряли в ходе атаки.
Чтобы разрушить башни защитников, нападающим понадобятся новые приспособления — «брошенные осадные машины». С них можно вести обстрел башен. На территории острова будет размещено 6 таких машин. В отличие от осадных машин на Озере Ледяных Оков, когда эти агрегаты находятся в движении, с них нельзя атаковать игроков или здания. Чтобы провести атаку, нужно подогнать машину на необходимое расстояние и перевести ее в режим осады: игрок будет катапультирован, а обстрел башни начнется автоматически и будет вестись до тех пор, пока защитникам не удастся разрушить машину.

Все трофеи — победителю
Игроки, одержавшие победу в битве за Тол Барад, получат очки чести, а также рекомендательные значки Тол Барада. Эти значки можно будет использовать наряду с новыми репутациями для приобретения редких и эпических предметов, средств передвижения и т.д. у особых торговцев. Кроме того, победителю предоставляется доступ к дополнительным ежедневным заданиям. Как и в Склепе Аркавона, фракция, удерживающая Тол Барад, может проводить рейды в крепости Барадин.

Комментарий от 555914

Теперь самое моё нелюбимое бг. Если на стороне защиты сидят не люди без клавиатуры, то шансы нападения выйграть сводятся к 0,1%, т.к. защите достаточно просто всей толпой держать одну точку. В то время как нападающим нужно держать все три. UNFAIR!

Комментарий от 733483

Эту Бараду крайне сложно выйграть для атакующей стороны.Дефить легче в стопятьсот раз.

Комментарий от Lotty

Очень негативно-угнетающая локация, крокодилы, тюрма, заключенные, подземелья. Собиру на дракона медалек и больше туда ни ногой. Оло было более позитивным и интересным.

Комментарий от 743126

Сервер Ткач Смерти, выигрышь орды составляет 1%,аликов 99%...редкий случай когда орда выиграет хотябы раз в день(((в основном раз в неделю...и то не всегда)))

Комментарий от 738016

скажите, как долго на тб чекается точка?

Комментарий от Ymaxa

У нас на сервере договорённость между Ордой и Альянсом. Сначала мы возьмём,потом они.

Комментарий от chekushka

Награды:
Поражение - 75 хонора.
Победа в дефе - 180 хонора, 3 значка и 250 / 263 / 289 репутации.
Победа в атаке - 360 хонора, 3 значка и 250 / 263 / 289 репутации. (Ранее давали 1800 хонора. пофикшено).

Комментарий от 571633

Довольно глупая локация: с одной стороны атака просто нереально сложна, а защиту можно выиграть тупо клацая любые кнопки на клаве - это первое, а второе это то, что чтобы сделать дейлики надо отбиться от кучи орды/альянса которые стоят на респе нужного моба по 5-8 человек, причем помогать никто никому не собиратеся - его пытаются ударить и свои и чужие. Далее ты умираешь, ждешь до 30сек пока тебя оживит дух, потом наземным транспортом отбиваясь от мобов 1-2 минуты опять бежишь ловить удачу и получаешь за эти мучения 1 значок. А их на дракона надо 200шт, а на триньку около 125. Если бы не дракон и не тринька, я бы туда ни ногой, пвп иногда превращается в тупо ганканье всех кто рядом. В свое время арати и альтерак были гораздо более забавными вещами.

Комментарий от 688191

Очень бесит очередь на барад, становлюсь находясь на самом полуострове и прожимая место где должна быть кнопка занять очередь, в итоге то ли из за пинга (омг 0.1с) но уже 200 человек до тебя нажали раньше, даже в 5 утра нельзя встать в очередь спустя такое время

Комментарий от win32

При выполнении дейликов, Третий офицер Кронкар, когда берешь у него задания, бафает Скольжение по воде

Комментарий от 893928

А сколько надо кв выполнить чтоб получить маунт

Комментарий от Kardiff

Тол Барад = Только Борода. Потому что нереально сложно получить то, зачем пришел в эту локацию...

Если Вы собираете репутации с фракциями на ачив, то приходить на Тол Барад за ними лучше только в крайнем случае и в последнюю очередь, потому что мучений будет много.
Если Вы делаете дейлики на ачивы, то опять же это будет очень нелегкое и довольно нервное занятие - постоянные ганки и бег от реса до нужной точки очень сильно изматывают.
Если собираете знаки на маунта/спутника/табард/и т.п. для ачивы, то лучше сначала постараться выполнить эти ачивы в других локациях, потому что в этой локации вы будете выполнять свои планы очень долго...

Комментарий от koteatake

Азурегос-орда.Проигрываем уже 7 раз !Пипеец !

Комментарий от Kaleset

Очень грустно видеть эту локацию мёртвой.

Комментарий от VeroKlubNika

После 85 уровня портал из Штормграда

/way 73.23 18.34

Комментарий от Simferia

Для тех кто никогда не играл в катаклизме:

Чтобы попасть сюда, игроки за Орду могут воспользоваться порталом в Оргриммаре, что над Аллеей Мудрости, рядом с распорядителем полётов, а игроки за Альянс — порталом в Восточном Святилище Земли, что на северо-востоке Штормграда.

Комментарий от Ernold

Я не знаю, совпадение это или нет, но на синдарине (языке темных эльфов из "Властелина Колец") "Тол Барад" означает "Остров-крепость", что отображает суть сего острова (крепость Барадин и все такое). Вот так вот.

Комментарий от Tiris0

С патча 7.0.3 Тол Барад стал кроссерверной зоной, и перерыв между битвами составляет всего 15 минут

Комментарий от Gtaz

Очень грустно видеть эту локацию мёртвой.
10,0,0

Комментарий от FleenShift

Очень жду когда близзард оживят Тол барад как ОЛО и добавят в систему поиска бг.Хорошая локация для замесов.

A different take on Wintergrasp. There are 3 buildings that the controlling faction starts with. The objective for the opposite faction is to capture these buildings by standing around a flag, like the vehicle workshops in Wintergrasp.
There are 3 "spires" that also belong to the controlling faction. Scattered across the zone are siege engines that members of the opposite faction can hop into and use to blow up a spire. I've yet to see one destroyed, but my guess is that once one is blown up, the opposite faction gains more time to try to get control of the buildings. Maybe a buff too. I'll update if I ever see one destroyed.
Something else to mention is that the tanks have a "siege mode" ala Siege Tanks from Starcraft. Once you get a tank within range of a tower, if you put it in siege mode it automatically attacks, leaving you free to hop out and defend it or whatever.
If you die within the zone (whether during the PVP event or while questing/whatever), you are taken to a spirit healer like in Wintergrasp or any battleground.
You can queue for Tol Barad at level 80 (or perhaps even lower). The quests in the zone are moderately difficult for an 85, so outside of a group, lower level people probably don't want to try the quests.

Whoever wins gains access to a hub of 12 quests in the center of the zone. Some notes on these:

Of the 12 quests, there are 3 that can be completed at any time within the zone:
1. The Leftovers is a quest asking you to kill 12 members of the opposite faction that are hanging around the buildings you fight for control of during the PVP event.
2. Swamp Bait is asking you to collect 8 hides from Crocolisks in the swamp next to the center area. Hides were a 100% drop when I did this quest earlier
3. A Huge Problem is a group quest tasking you with killing an 85 elite that patrols around the zone named Problim. He's huge and hard to miss. He carries a tree, and has a buff that says so.
Beyond those 3 quests, there are 3 cell blocks with 3 quests each.
The zone rotates through which cell block is open at a given time. So, in essence, you can only do 3 quests (beyond the 3 listed above) until the block that's open rotates.

The quests for each of the cell blocks are more or less the same, just in a different area with different mob types.
One quest will ask you to kill a certain number of the mobs you'll find in that block.
Another will ask you to collect items from within that cell block. These are clickable items found on the ground within the block you're in
The last one will ask you to kill a named mob within that block. For all three, you have to loot the mob in question to complete it. The mobs in the way of the named all hit pretty hard and are pretty densely packed together. You don't want to have to run back through because you forgot to loot the quest item.

D-Block: This cell block is occupied by demons. It's northwest of the central hub. The named you have to kill is a core hound named Svarnos. He can be found by following the right path in the block. There are quite a few shackles (the item you need for this block) in the room behind him too, so be sure to look around in there for those once he's dead.
Cursed Depths: This cell block is occupied by undead. It's directly east of the central hub. The named you have to kill is a skeleton mage named Archmage Galus. He can be found by following the left path in the block.
The Hole: This cell block is occupied by human prisoners. It's southwest of the central hub. The named you have to kill is Warden Silva. He can be found by following the right path in the block. There are pairs of orc warrior Warden Defender mobs guarding gates in the hall that leads to the Warden. They both Blood Rage and hit quite hard. This cell block in particular it's almost necessity to group to get through, just because how closely packed the mobs are and how hard they hit.

In this build of the beta, the NPCs you turn the quests into appear to be stuck in a different phase. Some people in general say they only spawn on occasion. Regardless, each of these quests rewards about 17 gold and a Tol Barad Commendation.

Комментарий от Domina

As of the date of this posting, you can find a (the?) portal to Tol Barad on the island in the lake in the far Northeast corner of Stormwind.

When you click the portal, it informs you that you must be level 85 to enter.

Комментарий от homer115

anyone know if there going to be mining nodes in this zone like wintergrasp?

Комментарий от Qessu

From winning a battle you get 250 reputation with Hellscream's Reach or Baradin's Wardens. You also get 3x Tol Barad Commendation.

Комментарий от 713155

Has anyone died while in Tol Barad then had their character teleported to the graveyard in Westfall? Just came across this weird ass glitch.

Looks like my corpse is in Hillsbrad, right below where Dalaran used to be. That's 48 gold down the toilet.

Комментарий от smalls103179

Why more gold for Ally on "The Leftovers" and "Learning From The Past"? Is this right?

Комментарий от 501448

its like your team will only win AB if you hold all of the nodes at the same time.

Absolutely incomplete. Correct version should be:

it's like your team will only win AB if you hold all of the nodes at the same time, with the opposing team starting with all the nodes at its possession. Furthermore, the map is at least 3 times bigger. Finally, you only have half of the time you have in WSG and if you want to extend the time -which you could read as attacker's agony- you have to spare a good portion of your team for destroying the towers, which makes the balance even more favorable for defenders

Yay!

Come on Blizzard, you don't even need to test this BG with users to see the fault in the logic.

Комментарий от 227157

Has anyone found a way to determine which factions controls Tol Barad without having to actually go there? Thought there might be something similar to the little faction icon over Wintergrasp, but so far haven't seen anything.

Комментарий от Pronkey

The expansion has been out for just over a week. The fight for this place has been happening for just shy of that. Most people's initial experience in any PvP battleground is something along the lines of, "What the hell am I supposed to do?" Let's all give it a little longer than everyone here seems willing before we start passing judgment on the 'impossibility' of something.

For the record, I agree that attacking seems to be the tougher of the two.

I've played in five and here's what I've learned:
Attacks, 2-2; Defense, 1-0

Attacking:
1. Towers
Getting towers down gets your team more time. It also forces the defenders to allocate resources to getting sieges down.
The more time you have, the more the place seems to swing to the attackers' advantage.
As of today, I'm a fan of getting towers knocked down.
2. Capturing bases
Same mechanic as the EotS node capture, the more players you have there, the faster the flag turns. Clearer the tougher part of the BG. Attacking one means not defending another. Effective communication will probably need to ramp up a bit in order to manage a good attack. ("You suck", "Fail Alliance/Horde", and "F'ing noobs" does not qualify as effective communication.)

Defending:
1. Towers
Keeping towers from falling means the attackers have less time. I believe the siege engines have a million health. As the siege engines only need to be set up and left in order to attack, they often are.
As of today, I'm a fan of not allowing siege engines to knock down our towers.
2. Defending bases
I haven't been on the losing side of a defense yet but I've been close (and I'm pretty sure if they had managed to get a tower, it would have been more than close). Again, effective communication is going to be key here. I think there are a bunch of different ways to approach the defense (as well as the attack). Zerg, split, different groups responsible for different areas (individual base defense, tower defense, roving defense).

Overall though, I think it's going to be an interesting battleground and I'd like to see Blizzard leave this one as-is for right now.

Edit: I've played many, many more since this post. I haven't kept an accurate track but I'd guess that the current record looks something like this:
Attacks 4-10; Defense 7-1

I'm still a fan of killing towers on offense, no longer a fan of protecting them on defense.
Contrary to popular belief, turtling on defense can net your team a loss (with less than two minutes to go, turtle away).
While not impossible to win on offense, it is far more difficult to mount a successful attack than it is to mount a successful defense (I would anticipate that Blizzard will adjust something here. I hope it's not a 'Tenacity' deal but I would be happy with: Making a capped keep irreversible, adding a bonus to capping power when towers are destroyed, giving the 3/5 of the bar that is currently grey to the attacking team...as it stands, that grey might as well be the defense's color.)
Effective communication is still key.

*It is my understanding that you cannot turn the flag while mounted, can anyone confirm/deny?

Edit 2:

Before the Blizzard 'fix' my record finished somewhere along these lines:
Attacks 5-22; Defense 14-1

That's not indicative of one faction being stronger than the other, it's an indication that the victory conditions for the attacking side were/are far more difficult to achieve than those for the defense. To believe otherwise is, well...you pick a word.

Anyway, I'll be interested to see how Blizzard decides to try and correct this, until then, everyone enjoy your Blizzard-sponsored, win-traded Tol Barad.

Side note: Being mounted does not appear to affect the capping power of the player. There are spots inside the keeps that will not count toward capping for whatever reason.

Комментарий от stormhaze

Given that this place is like Wintergrasp, how do you get to it by way of travel, or is there a portal that gets you there from Org/SW?

Комментарий от Coldbear

Kinda sad how they had to resort to making this an instanced BG instead of a zone and part of the rest of the world. But I guess it might have turned into another Isle of QQ.

Комментарий от Denial

Make sure you /love Sassy Cat and Wharf Rat on Tol Barad Pennisula. Then Baradin Fox Kit on the actual PVP island while you're in the area.

Counts towards the To All the Squirrels Who Cared for Me achievement

Комментарий от GovtGeek

If you're like me, you wanted to know the raid you can run after you win. You're looking for Baradin Hold. Currently, Argaloth is the demon you want to kill.

Комментарий от Lidmo

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1232869
Blizzard said:
~~Tol Barad - Winning as an attacker now rewards players with 1800 Honor Points, up from 180. Winning as a defender still rewards players with 180 Honor Points.~~

~~This pretty much facilitates the trading of TB possession every battle, which is a decent solution that I proposed early on, first week of Cata.~~

EDIT: It's obviously not a permanent solution by Blizz, TB needs a proper lookover for balancing and this hotfix is so most people will be able to access the dailies and raid. Only people whining at the moment are those who enjoyed grinding BGs for gear but don't have the skills to match the gear.

EDIT 2:

As you’re probably aware by now, an update was applied to Tol Barad shortly before the holidays which granted the attacking side 1800 Honor Points for a victory. While the goal with that change was to provide more incentive for the attacking forces to claim victory, it ultimately led to an undermining of the spirit of competition in Tol Barad. We’ve just applied a hotfix which has lowered the attacking faction’s gain to 360 Honor Points for a victory. The defending faction will still earn 180 Honor Points for a victory.

We appreciate all of your feedback regarding this change. We'll continue working to make Tol Barad a fun and engaging PvP environment.

- Bashiok on the US forums

Комментарий от 598280

Anyone know how they determine who will get to enter the battle? Seems to be purely random since I signed a second after it was possible and didnt get in while a guildie signed 2 min before the battle and got in.

Комментарий от Terbovus

Just a separate note on the dailies. Is it just me or are they pretty much undoable solo?

I find that you pick up adds so incredibly easily, and they all hit pretty hard, so basically if you don't have a group then its painful drudgery with frequent deaths and repair bills, particularly given the presence of hostile folks from the other faction. Tough mobs I can deal with, but multiple tough mobs who start attacking you before you can even see the buggers is a bit too much.

It might be okay when the gear improves, or for plateys, but given that I play for fun, then this isn't good. Might end up just leaving Tol Barad to the ghosts and crazies.

Комментарий от 88677

A little story about going to Tol Barad:

There's a portal in Orgrimmar near the portals to the new cata zones, that will take you to Tol Barad. I assume it's similar in Stormwind but I don't have any ally toons high enough to verify it.

You must be level 85 to go there, and you HAVE to use the portal.

I tried going there on my level 81 horde hunter, flying on my drake (280%+10% guild perk) from Sandy Beach in Vashj'ir, but first you go into deep water which triggers the fatigue, then when the fatigue bar is about 25% left, you hit an invisible wall right as you hit the south edge of the Tol Barad zone (you can actually see the colours of the mountains by then - if your graphic distance is on high or better). By this time it's too late to turn around or head for shore, and death is unavoidable.

I assume there's invisible walls on the other sides as well, I didn't try because of the much greater distance from land, plus I ended up dead in the graveyard Northern Barrens, and had no choice but to take rez sickness.

Комментарий от delaydackel

Regarding daily quest rotation: I got told that after every successfull defense they rotate but after attacking they stay the same as the last time your faction helt tb. Can anyone confirm/deny this?

Комментарий от Crazyshockz

>>>>>TOL BARAD WIN-TRADING IS NERFED<<<<<

A post on mmo-champion confirmed that the faction on offense now only recieves 360 honor and 30 honor for each tower controlled, instead of the old 1800 honor per offensive win. This is Blizzard attempting to nerf the win-trading, however 360 honor is still a very good amount (about 3 battlegrounds) So if you got your PVP blue gear while the fun lasted, good for you, if you didn't, tough luck ):

Комментарий от 392844

So, am I the only one around here who thinks the whole Tol Barad zone looks a lot like Shutter Island (The Movie)? Or has this already been mentioned? If so, excuse me :).

Комментарий от Chifen

Yeah... you cant fly to this place from Vashj'ir, incase you were wondering

Комментарий от 537397

WHAT A JOKE :(

Have tried to get in to the last 4 battles, only to see them end without even getting an invite.
Previous to that, pretty much same as all you other poor buggers who have tried attacking. wtf

Am seriously starting to regret buying Cata :(

Комментарий от 253465

If you are a hunter you are able to watch the battle from your respective starter town. Using the center tower you can jump your eagle eye to each of the towers/capture points and back.

Комментарий от 760488

Does anyone know how queueing works for this?
My server is mostly horde and I am indeed one as well...

But its almost impossible to get queued and not because the raid is full...

My friend got in and said there were only 5 horde in the raid the entire time... but it was against 3 alliance

Im wondering if this is blizzards way of leveling the playing field? So it's not 40 vs 3 like it use to be in wintergrasp.

Either way its rediculous and un fair for us just because of the competition to get in.

Комментарий от 333328

A few weeks ago, this BG was giving the amazing amount of 1800 honor if you win while attacking... obviously everybody made kind of a "pact" so all you had to do is watch the other side pwnning you, so next battle you gonna be the attacker and you will win lot of honor.

This was hotfixed, and this is the new honor recieved:

360 Honor Points if you win attacking.
180 Honor Points if you defending.
75 Honor Points if you lose, attacking or defending doesnt matter.

Also you will get 3 Tol Barad Commendation when winning, and 1 when losing.

Hope this helps, correct me if I am wrong with anything.

Комментарий от 771164

The problem that I have noticed, and a few others as well, is that in our Horde dominated realm, Area 52, the BG is nowhere near balanced. There are times when it is a fight of 6v3 at each cap location. This IS taking in consideration that noone is dead or farming. Also, being that we hardly ever have control over the area, maybe twice a week, hardly anyone on our side has raid gear yet, compaired to the other side that already has full sets of raid gear. So what we are looking at is a large grp versus a small grp, and raid gear vs non raid gear. There is no way for 20 people with non-raid gear to compete with 29 with full raid gear. Until Blizz makes this an iLvl vs. iLvl match, I see no balance. 1v1, iLvl v iLvl; 20 avg. iLvl 347 players versus 20 avg. iLvl 347 players will be more balanced and actually make it a skill fight.

To mstightmami:
From my understanding, the BGs are set in intervals of 10, so if one side has 11 the other side can have a full 20. 1v10, 11v20,... Makes it very frustrating when the dominant side is 9 greater than your side, very unbalanced and an almost unfair advantage. And you know as well that the dominant side will be better geared than the other, another unfair advantage. Makes it no longer a fight of skill, but a burial of the smallest team with the lowest grade of armor.

Комментарий от 616859

i have been "removed from group" 3 times while in tol barad. the first two times, i was standing still for a short while, so i figured i must have triggered some afk flag setting and got booted.. thats a problem in itself that blizzard needs to fix, but thats another story. so the third time, however, happened after a long post in raid chat. immediately after the post i began moving around and fighting.. about 45 seconds later i was removed from group..

so the question im leading up to is: does the person designated raid leader in tol barad actually have the ability to boot people? if that is case, dont you think there is something wrong with that? im fighting for up to 25 mins to get denied an honor bonus at the end of the fight based on the whim of some individual who doesnt like the way i post in raid chat..

Комментарий от Dreamender

This zone is a complete failure, don't bother with the dailies as you need literally HUNDREDS of hours of effort for a mediocre non-BiS trinket. And if you're outnumbering the other side on your realm, don't bother going there at all.

Комментарий от bkevol

Please blizzard, for the sake of all the realms that are un equal horde/alliance make a system like wintergrasp was.
this is rediculous how unbalanced factions are in this game

http://www.wowhead.com/blog=145516/patch-3-3-3-upcoming-wintergrasp-balance-changes

Комментарий от PonyHawk

I've noticed that certain areas where dailies are supposed to take place are closed off. I don't know why. I got quests for 'D-Block' and I went there not being able to get in. I went back at a later date and was able to complete the quests but went to the 'Cursed Depths' and couldn't get in there.

What gives?

Комментарий от 758633

Truly Tol Barad seems not to be all its cracked up to be, if your on a high population server it becomes a daily thing. Larger side (in my case Alliance) vs smaller side. it usually works out like this "side 1-attacking" "side 2 defending" "side 1 attacks and wins" wait 2 hours "side 2 attacks and wins". Tol Barad seems to not be determined by the intelligence of the players, but just pure chance and luck

Комментарий от Fiyasoldier

Not sure if its dragon mounts in general , but Proto-Drakes cannot be summoned here , even if your only going to walk while riding it

Комментарий от droodspeaking

Here's what i'do if I was designing this battleground,althought that would make it more like wintergrasp.The three bases would be able to get captured only by the attacking force (like the strand of the ancients graveyards) and not be able for recapturing by the defenders. After that the demolishion tanks would be available for the attacking force (spawning inside the bases) to attack and destroy the towers.Destroying a tower would give them 2 more minutes to attack, destroying all of them would lead to the last phase wich would be: destroying one of the entrances to the keep.That would be where attackers and defenders would give all they had, maybe in a last man standing contest (respawns would stop until either the attacking force kills all defenders inside the base and visible winning tol barad or until the defenders kill all attackers inside the base and visible).If the defenders managed to defend the keep attackers would have more chanses based on the time left.Or maybe a last boss like alterac valey and isle of conquest.That's what i'd do anyway no one has to like it, thanks for reading.

Edit: i would like to say that in my server usualy the attackers win no matter the faction.On other servers maybe a capture in which one attacker counts as two defenders would help.

Комментарий от bmoc65

I wonder if Blizzard has kicked around the idea of having one of the BGs be cross-faction. I think the most interesting twist in that scenario is communication....both alliance with horde and O with D. All of the BGs so far you haven't been able to communicate with the opposition...it would be interesting if you could.
"Hey bastards, we are coming down the something-something road to kick your butts!" :-)

Комментарий от 745466

There are no lists that keep track of wins etc. like in WG, as of i know. That'd be nice

Комментарий от 808531

The new tol barad raid like Vault of Archavon Baradon hold is the new raid, and like wintergrasp you must control Tol Barad.

Комментарий от 348807

I used to hate Tol Barad, I thought I'd never get that damned drake or that wolf, and used to QQ like'a baby in TB Gen chat and when I got back to Orgrimmar, I'd QQ some more lolz ...I hated Tol Barad.

I vowed never to return after I got the mounts. Doing daily after daily and getting ganked constantly, was taking it's toll on me. Tol Barad was giving me a headache because I'd get angry at Ally for gankin' me constantly, and the mobs in TB are totally relentless and far too annoying, with their constant grunting and yelling with each blow, totally relentless. So, I found that within one day of not doing TB, I was almost missing it, I Que'd, went in, we lost it, I gathered a group and we went ally hunting!, as it was about time they got some "come-uppin's" lol ...now? I so love Tol Barad, that I often times try to keep the fights going, no matter WHO gains control. Also, I have found that you may think you are losing Tol Barad when you are in control, and all of a sudden, Vwahla!...we won! and kept control!
...on the other hand, Horde may be attacking, and the whole time, thinking they are not going to win and all of a sudden WHAM we've taken TB and are in control. Personally, I could care less who's in control anymore, all I wanna do is kill my enemy! :) I have a macro that really, really pisses them off, it's a sort of raid yell, that is in their language and can actually read it, it says: "you are the son of a pig, and weak, you will lose!" (lol)laugh --> Dogg kagg mog Ruk'ka'ha Kil ogg Lok'mogul re'ka kek

Комментарий от moocow

Trivia: Tol Barad means Island Tower in Sindarin.

Комментарий от 754387

It's on your map dude

Комментарий от 363646

When it comes the PVP and Battlegrounds Blizzard sucks big time. I never have done a battleground or PVP with a nice relaxing feeling what you should have playing a game, i assume.
All i experience is frustration, angry and regret. the only reason i do pvp is too get stronger with the stupid resilience armor that you need for not be ganked like a sitting duck. If you ask me, loose the level ranges so that a lev 10 can beat up u level 85, move the resilience so that a pve gamer got equal chances against a pvp gamer and put it more up too accomplish targets instead of fighting eachother only.

Комментарий от 170114

Don't know if there was a change or something since I wasn't playing for some time but last 2 weeks i'm on tol barad about 6 times every day and on my realm (Stormreaver-EU) defense never ever wins.Not even close to win actually without even 1 tower destroyed and the game is already over so the faction that controls it switches every 2.5 hours.

Комментарий от SylvanElf

a nice relaxing feeling

What? Are you kidding? Battlegrounds should never, EVER feel "nice" or "relaxing" That's why I rolled on a pvp server to begin with, to add the edge of danger lurking around every corner!

OK, that said... I'm just starting out in this zone, whats the objective of this battle? Is is a node/resource based one like AB? Or more like a "Defeat the commander" a la AV?

Комментарий от Argondr

Isn't there any equivalent to Дневник Аркавона? D:

Комментарий от ParisAvenue2011

On a NORMAL (PvE) realm, players are NOT automatically flagged when entering this zone. So it's rather different than Wintergrasp in that respect. Worth noting for non-PvPers out there (like me!).

Комментарий от 765496

how it is decided who gets in? I quee at 14:59 and 90% of time I dont' get in. random just hates me or? there is no way I will get 100 wins when I can't even get in once a day.

Комментарий от z3r0gamer

OK, first off, I havent played since the jousting tournament was implemented. We moved and I'm posting from a library. After reading these comments, I'd like to say something. To all those who think TB is broken due to lack of communication, There are several free VOIP clients that allow you to run your own server. I recommend Mumble. To you people who say that you can't split the attacking force, you don't get the power of Hunters, Druids, and the Blackened Worg Steak. Sense Humanoid. Give the steaks to 3 people who mastered running like all hades is chasing them. Have them count the people at each base, just a rough estimate, and split your forces accordingly. And, to everyone, make SURE that before you jump off that platform, you know EXACTLY what you have to do. Popping slowfall before you jump, and using a movement-boost, like Sprint, or a mount, lets you get pretty far. Finally, never underestimate PVE tactics. Polymorph is still premier CC, if popped at the start of the fight. Get people to respect the sleep, and Wyvren Sting hurts. Rogues, if you havent, try subtlety. Contrary to popular belief, at least when I left, it works for PVP IF you actually think about the buttons you push. Shadowstep confuses the crap out of people, and gaining a combo point every time ANYONE IN THE RAID crits helps with damage output. Even if you don't kill them personally, you make casters a little happier with easy targets. Basically, throw them off. Pop talent skills that noone expects in PVP. Feign Death, hunters, when you really ARE about to die, and then pop up and use the aforementioned Wyvren Sting on a priest. You're dead anyway, so annoy them. Most importantly, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF ENEMY RAGEQUITS.
Sorry for the long post, but I had a lot to say.

Комментарий от Mantrhax

ITs really weird that anyone can join the fight at 29:30 and with 10 sec get 165 honor for loosing, or 300 honor for wining without even fightin anyone ....something wrong with this design ?

oh im not sure if i can say bad design here O_o

Комментарий от chekk3

How many times you can do the tol barad PVP (not the quests) in a single day?

Thank you

Комментарий от insaneblade

if your under 90 atm be warned no one under 90 can que TB its either bugged or strickly made 90 only now and this is coming from alot of servers atm and blizzard has yet to give a response

Комментарий от togahsisoka

I am 85 (never bought MoP) and can currently not only que, but with the lack of TB interest, I've been able to hold TB single handed for the past 3 battles even when my opponent(s) are lvl 90!

Capturing TB is near impossible unless you outnumber the enemy now since you usually have only a handful of people in the raid.

If you control TB, you can reacquire the flags faster than attackers can. So as long as you avoid confrontations (i.e. stealth) and they aren't too coordinated, it is easy to defend solo.

Комментарий от Aurorasflame1

As of the new patch today (11/28/12) Tol Barad is now a level 90 PvP area. I am an 89 and went to join the battle and was kicked and told I am not a high enough level to join the battle. This is terrible especially since I have been doing the PvP in Tol Barad for at least a few months.

Комментарий от Gaelen

I've just turned level 86 and can't queue for this now,
I get kicked with the message "too low level".
Does this mean I won't be able to get in until I'm level 90?

Комментарий от frakbt

Is there any way to queue other than physically being on the island?

Комментарий от Rforn

So, tol barad has been raised to lvl 90 but the quests and mobs for dailies are still for lvl 85?
they need to make a point to TB again, as nobody wants to do it, maybe some conquest for a win, otherwise this and WG, will just stay empty and pointless, which is a pity as server v server was fun

Комментарий от KingdomKnight

I never had trouble getting in before but now that I boosted my Lock to 90 and am trying to get Honor for a transmog set I can't get in at all. It seems so strange to me, Blizzard's ideas.

Комментарий от elstohn

Ignorant, poorly conceived, and annoying.

No idea why bliz takes a lvl 85 xpac zone and makes it lvl 90 only. All 'world' pvp zones should auto scale to the lvl for the xpac (ie, wintergrasp can allow anyone in, but they de-level to 80) bliz already has (the reverse of) this capability for regular battlegrounds (wsg, ab av etc).

At least people could enjoy the content that was designed for their level.

Комментарий от riker

After solving WoW's greatest mystery... how do you enter Tol Barad after its been removed from the PVP queues. Well here is the answer.

First get to Stormwind city
Go to the cataclysm portals above the Dwarven district
Take the Tol Barad portal
Wait for the battle to begin (Hint: countdown should be at the center top of your screen)
Cross the big bridge that connects the two Tol Barad islands, once you do this and the battle has started, a message will pop up on your screen asking if you would like to join the battle. Click Accept!

NB: you don't have to wait for a battle to begin to join the queue, you can go there any time, cross the bridge and a message will pop up asking if you'd like to join the queue.

Комментарий от Lucilite

I just tried to solo TB. I mean I tried to do TB, and I was literally the only Alliance player in the ENTIRE BG. It probably would have been an easy win except that there was one Horde player there too, and he was higher level than me. (Though even if he was the same level, I probably wouldn't have had a chance in hell because Horde players are automatically better at PvP always & forever.

Since Just Another Day in Tol Barad requires doing the dailies sometimes when Alliance controls the BG, any chance I had of getting that achievement was probably gone 2 years ago :(

Комментарий от Xiberion

Is there anyway to do the raid in this zone if your faction NEVER controls it?

Комментарий от Alvtron

You can use Перо Авианы if you need to go far. Saves a bit of time.

Комментарий от Mystterious

To reach this place, there is a portal in Stormwind, with other portals, outside Dwarven Dist.

Комментарий от Shogol

Currently there's only 15 minutes between Tol Barad battles instead of 2 hours and 30 minutes, and Wintergrasp is only 10 minutes. Not sure if intentional or bugged. Hope it's intentional.

Комментарий от debbyberry

Today's interesting trivia: I'm picking up some reputations I never finished at the time, so I'm working on Tol Borad. Not a lot of traffic, as you might imagine; tonight, it was just me and a Horde rogue. He won, so I hearthed out of the zone. As I resolved, I saw that I had a new item in my bag.

Apparently, every PvP activity, including puny little Tol Borad, now drops AP. I just got 125k AP for losing in Tol Borad. I'm not sure how I feel about that, but I'll take it.

Комментарий от Litebrite

Are lvl110s unable to do tol barad dailies anymore? I cant see any of them, havent for a while now

Комментарий от BlueDragyn

For anyone looking for the portal to Tol Barad on the Horde side, you'll find it on the top level at 47.40, 39.30. You'll see two orc NPCs with a portal between them.

If you don't have a coordinate add-on, fly up/take the elevator to the level where the flight master & zeppelins are. Pull up your map and head over to the area between the I and S in Valley of Wisdom.

Комментарий от Stormcan

Ok this BG is getting ridiculous. Either it's 20-1 to alliance of 20-1 horde. Blizzard needs to fix this one so it's an even BG.

Комментарий от Elitecookie

So one faction has had control over this for what seems like forever now. Re-capture a point whenever one is taken.

What is even the point of defending it? Or am i missing something? Does defending it count as a win?

GIVE ME MY GODDAMN DAILIES YOU GREEDY A-HOLES

Комментарий от lithium91w

Hello from 2020.
For those who either didn't play this during the expansion or are just forgot, like me ----
To get into the battle go SOUTH - across the bridge that looks like it leads to a larger land mass. Puts you into the battle automatically (if it's going on).

Комментарий от badgehunter

i was smuggled in here with my f2p account to get the tabard, so i can get here myself without help of a party. its always funny when i am here alone, and then suddenly i see alliance no longer has control of ironclad garrison. i head there and soon lvl 50? account attempts to chase after me as i am preventing his victory and we start rotating the building for couple of minutes and then they hearth away as they realize that they literally can not win as i am there. level 20 account which gets one shot from like 90% of the abilities of lvl 50 successfully defends against lvl 50. so if you are here alone and you have only 1 enemy, if your defending, your gonna most likely win as you can just waste their time and not even kill them once.

Комментарий от badgehunter

if you manage to get in here as low level, and your side is controlling this place... even if you would be lvl 10, i would say that you have 90% chance to win as defender. just mount up and take over the place that most likely single horde took over 10 seconds ago as they most likely just get barely to say that horde is now controlling slagworks. also usually the first place that goes is ironclad garrison as this is closest to attacker spawn location. and ironclad garrison is probably best place to waste enemy's time by just running around the place, queue Yakety Sax

this following guide is more directed to said low lvls but can be used by anyone: if you arrive here and the next round is soon to begin and your side is holding island, try to die and then escape the spirit healer automatic revival. this gives you ability return to center after your 30s of inactive timer has ran out. so you are only losing 1 minute at max of action, but low level players can skip more easily those elite guards by the bridge.

Комментарий от Atomicpumpkin

35.

If you're curious what level the dailies unlock now (Shadowlands), like I was, it seems to be 35, if you're not in Chomie Time at least. Not sure if Chomie Time is the same or different.

Комментарий от Metoda

------------------------------------------------------------- HORDE -------------------------------------------------------------

You can use portal to get into Тол Барад. You can find it at Valley of Widsom in Оргриммар.

HOW TO GET THERE?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwzCjq1bjB8

------------------------------------------------------------ ALLIANCE ------------------------------------------------------------

You can use portal to get into Тол Барад. You can find it near Dwarven District in Штормград.

HOW TO GET THERE?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRQWN8m4rnE

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Комментарий от LazyLaeth08

So, you're able to use the portal in Stormwind below level 30, however once you're there you cannot use the portal to get back to Stormwind. Just a heads up to any low level characters who might have clicked on the portal and are curious to see where the portal leads to, don't. Unless you have a hearthstone.

Комментарий от Tyrsenus

You can (usually) pick up a few extra daily quests by toggling war mode.

Enter Tol Barad with war mode on
Pick up all the dailies
Take portal back to Orgrimmar/Stormwind
Turn off war mode, re-enter Tol Barad
Pick up any extra dailies

Then complete all the dailies. You do not need to turn war mode back on to hand them all in.

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