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OMG HAHA! 1 Second Overpower cooldown? Holy *!@#! Couple this with Taste for Blood and you can use OP atleast 4 times within the 5 second buff you get. (keeping the GCD in mind) Omg I don't even care they took out the extra damage buff. 50% crit chance and 1 second cooldown. No longer will rogues pop Evasion fighting a warrior.

Rogue 1 - "It's better to dodge his other attack and get hit with an overpower every 5 seconds."
Rogue 2 - "Overpower has a 1 second cooldown now >.>"
Rogue 1 - "... Uhhhh... DO NOT POP EVASION!"

Комментарий от 5315

Guys ! Dont forget About GC ~ 1.5 Sec. But this talent with "Taste for Blood" = real nice vs all.

Комментарий от Hirotoro

It's also entirely feasible to settle for 1 point in this talent - for in my whole career playing a Warrior i've rarely been dodged twice within two seconds. Even if a rogue plugged Evasion, and you had the Taste for Blood talent, 3 seconds cooldown seems plenty to me as it'd be unlikely to recieve two overpowers almost simultaneously.

*edit* Talent changed, come Ulduar patch the talent is providing an exclusive niche to arms warriors and making overpower more potent.

Комментарий от 182403

People seem to forget that this also works for revenge, witch adds nice to the tanking capabilities of a arms warrior since they have to wait a lot for ms burst threat

but ofc the best results are for pvp

improved op + improved revenge :
when not attacking, go nuts in battle stance hammering them (with the rend stack and @#$%)
if you get focussed, duck into defensive and stunfest

with some addons and macros, you really going to be stance dancing like never before

Комментарий от 144835

My comments before the nerfs...

Unrelenting Assault Rank 2 is also reducing the global cooldown of both Overpower and Revenge to 1 second.

Unlike Overpower, that deactivates after use, Revenge can be spammed every 1 second with Unrelenting Assault for the active duration, or even undefinitly with a string of Block/Dodge/Parry.

With Improved Revenge, you can stun lock with Revenge for the active duration.

Using the Glyph of Revenge, every Heroic Strike will surely have no cost, while spamming Revenge.

Комментарий от kemikalkadet

For Overpower, is it worth going 2/2 in this talent? Since GCD is 1.5 seconds you lose .5 of a second of the benefit.. unless of course it reduces the GCD to 1 second. I haven't tried it out yet so i'm not sure. Even if it does reduce the GCD, i'd think going 1/2 would give you a smoother rotation since a 3 second cooldown would let you use another move while Overpower is on cooldown and allow you to use Overpower again on the second GCD (assuming it's up)

Комментарий от withmyrice

Me: Oh look, a warrior, but dismantle's still on cooldown. LAWL. https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=26669

OH GOD WHY AM I DYING

Комментарий от 255736

Haven't seen it posted yet, so this talent reduced the global cooldown to 1 second.

Комментарий от 182403

ptr version of this talent is eeuhmn NICE

OP and revenge cd reduced to 1 second (this is the regular effect)

damage from OP and revenge increased with 20%...which makes OP come close to the damage of MS

~~everytime you hit~~ ignore, read below, me silly...with OP... healing and spell damage from target is reduced with 50%

Thus a warrior can do a 50% less healing/spell damage debuff and a 50% less healing recieved debuff... (this would be two seperate mechantics) with two burst-abilities he can activate nearly at will, that is wow, even a bit preposterous really

yes I'm a warrior myself and i don't think this is getting out of the ptr, if it is and considering how much arms has been buffed...
(granted, it needed buffing but blizz, like usual, doesn't know where to stop)
the days of "arms = pvp, no questions asked" are back

Комментарий от 199232

I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, But... Reduces the cooldown of your Overpower and Revenge abilities by 4 secs and increases the damage done by both abilities by 20%. In addition, if you strike a player with Overpower while they are casting, their magical damage and healing will be reduced by 50% for 6 sec. Sounds good right? Read this though.

If you strike a player with Overpower while they are casting, their magical damage and healing will be reduced by 50% for 6 sec.

It's this wording, that in my opinion, makes this a fair talent. It HAS to be while the target is casting, so either you pummel it (assuming they give it to us in batttle stance, which would rock!) or you can overpower it or you can ignore it. Otherwise it won't apply this debuff. However, with the new 3.1 Taste for Blood talent change, I expect to see this debuff up as much as mortal strike since it gives a 100% chance when your rend ability does any damage, to allow the use of overpower for 9 seconds with a 6 second CD. Happy caster hunting fellow warriors! =)

Комментарий от 28619

does this reduce magical effect stack with mortal strike. if it does then it would be really overpowered, nightmare of all healers.

From the wording, mortal strike reduces the healing done TO the target while this effect reduces the healing done BY the target. it seems that they can stack.

Комментарий от 301557

Does anyone know what the precedent for overpower is between a dodge proc and a thirst for blood proc?

ie. Your opponent dodges and you get tfb.
when you overpower, does it consume the tfb and allow you to use overpower again for the dodge, or does it 'consume' the dodge proc and leave tfb for a second overpower?

Or, is it not a dominant precedent and just a 'first proc'd, first used' system?

Or, does it consume both procs? (netting 1 overpower attack)

Комментарий от 162006

Note that it says when it strikes a player that's casting.

Комментарий от fiote

Unfortunally, a full prot warrior (61 points min) cant get this talent =(

Комментарий от 182403

After some serious excel fun, I assume that OP will outrange slam and eventually even MS in damage when your gear get's better.

while Slam/MS both are abillities who deal 'weapon dam+X' OP just deals weapon damage

But if you have this talent OP will deal 120% of weapon damage, include the improved overpower with crit-boost

the fact is, that the 20% extra dam from OP and the extra crit (and hereby crit damage from impale and maybe axe spec or gems) will keep benefitting from AP and weapon damage increase and will eventually outrun

slam where X=250
ms where X=380
talented/glyphed ms where X=418
talented and glyphed ms where X=456(this could be a bit higher I don't know how the damage increases stack)

anyway, after some digging in the best possible gear, and counting a lot, OP crits (who are more fequent then ms/slam crits anyway) can deal up to 1.2k higher damage then ms crits

confirm once you have ulduar left empty and/or are cladded in furious gear

Комментарий от 81339

What really makes me wonder is the bonuses this talent awards to Revenge..Why Revenge... perhaps when you switch to Defensive Stance to disarm or to take less dmg in a certain situation,Revenge procs and you use it...but it still dose not have any heavy uses for an arms warr, and prot based warrs (as mentioned above) cannot reach Unrelenting Assault either...
"It's a secret to everybody"

Комментарий от 57826

So, anyone knows if this -dmg/healing debuff is working for only players (as the text reads) or on mobs as well?

Комментарий от RazerMuffin

This, plus Mortal Strike = Lumberjack of Druid Trees.

Комментарий от ColdKiller

Overpower seems to get ALOT of bonuses through talents, some which are general and some which are unique to it. To show a list look at this

Unrelenting Assault + Improved Overpower + Impale + Deep Wounds + Trauma + Wrecking Crew + Blood Frenzy

That combination of talents means that your overpower kicks ass, and serves it on a silver platter if it crits, beacause crit will mean it does (through maths) 264% of the damage untalented AND it will increase the bleed damage the targets takes and give a 6 second bleed and increase alll your damage by 10% for 12 secs and increase your damage against that target by 4%.

Not bad for a single, low cost ability wouldn't you say?

Комментарий от 445376

Does anyone know if the healing reduction effect from this talent stacks with MS to 100%?
E.g. a paladin healing self, having MS up on him, getting hit by OP while casting.
=> Zero healing recieved?
Or maybe it is 75% reduction? Anyone sure about this ?

Edit:
Looks like 75%. Thanks for enlightening me :>

Комментарий от 505931

Sexy, run around in an arms dps spec with this in prot gear... engage group, pop shield block, spam revenge. Hilarious leveling, may or may not be faster, but I like messing around with it.

Комментарий от 534473

In reply to the above comment - this will become even more clear in 3.3.3, probably even overpowered. Hybrid warrior tanks will be able to spam revenge repeatedly on a 1 second cooldown, with it doing 50% more damage from the patch, 40% more from the two improvement talents, and deal 100% of the damage to an additional nearby target. That's insane damage. If your revenge hits for 5k+ with this next patch, you will be able to do over 5k dps as a warrior tank provided you have high enough avoidance (you need to dodge, block, or parry an attack every few seconds to keep revenge available).

So much for shield slam nerfs. Now, if a hybrid warrior dodges your attack in PvP, he will simply be able to two shot you with two 10k+ revenge crits in two seconds. Hmm.

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Сокращает время восстановления способностей "Превосходство" и "Реванш" на 4 сек. Увеличивает урон от обеих способностей на 20%. Если способность "Превосходство" наносит урон персонажу, читающему заклинание, его сила заклинаний и лечения сократится на 50% на 6 sec.

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Эффект #1

Apply Aura: Modifies Cooldown (11)
Значение: -4 сек.
PvP-мультипликатор: 1
Влияет на заклинания:

Реванш	Реванш	Реванш
Превосходство	Реванш	Реванш
Реванш	Реванш	Реванш
Реванш

Эффект #2

Apply Aura: Modifies Global Cooldown (21)
Значение: -500 мсек.
PvP-мультипликатор: 1
Влияет на заклинания:

Реванш	Реванш	Реванш
Превосходство	Реванш	Реванш
Реванш	Реванш	Реванш
Реванш

Эффект #3

Apply Aura: Modifies Damage/Healing Done
Значение: 20%
PvP-мультипликатор: 1
Влияет на заклинания:

Реванш	Реванш	Реванш
Превосходство	Реванш	Реванш
Реванш	Реванш	Реванш
Реванш

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