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интересно будет ли урон от этого удара сам игнорировать броню или только последующие удары.
и 6 сек маловато... по сравнению с тем что раньше можно было набрать кап пробивки в пве или около 50% в пвп

Комментарий от g0dl1ke

в 4.3, на PTR есть новые изменения:
теперь использует новую анимацию атаки у персонажа.

Комментарий от 979942

в 4.3 по игрокам снимает 50% брони, 100% только по NPC

According to my math, not considering the procs from Sudden Death, Colossus Smash has about a 33% uptime, which equates to 33% ArP over time (Correct me if i'm missing some equation). Most WotLK DPS Warriors, have more than twice that as Passive ArP, if not hard capped on ArP. Colossus Smash seems to be a poor substitute for the removal of ArP. Especially to the most ArP dependant class in the entire game.

Комментарий от 660647

No armor too tough!

EDIT: Too bad they changed the icon, I liked the one before -_-

Комментарий от 146438

I've noticed that my attacks hit nearly twice as hard with this ability while i'm questing, but haven't tested much against player targets. Generally my rotation is charge, rend, CS, MS, OP and I try to throw in a HS if i have the rage to spare. If I get a sudden death proc, I wait until CS fades from the target before reapplying CS unless it would delay a MS or OP.

Комментарий от 310390

Finally, I go through tauren paladins like gnomish mages.

Комментарий от 694494

Interestingly enough this is a debuff instead of a buff on the warrior. Id love it to work for all players attacking the target, but i assume it only works for the warrior using the spell.
This ability is what warrior will be based around in arenas.

Комментарий от cmppayne26542

They remove armor penetration and give a ridiculous buff to it =/

Комментарий от Amante

Does this make all of your attacks bypass armor for 6 seconds, or just autoattacks?

Комментарий от 736095

Well i think all your attacks bypass armor not just the autoattacks

Комментарий от 480252

The question everyone should be asking is: Does this bypass enemy bubbles?
I wanna see the face of the enemy.
The last 6 seconds a mage should be worried about living

Комментарий от 179111

REAGAN SMASH
REAGAN SMASH
*not enough rage*
REAGAN...sleepy.

Комментарий от 743180

Wondering if anyone else has noticed it does not show for just the warrior using it in a raid setting with more the one warrior using it it may be possible for warriors to have near 100% upkeep if communicating. Anyone have data to show that?

Комментарий от 716135

I must say that "smashing through their armor" sounds a little brutal on clothies. I can imagine a plate armor being "smashed through" but a simple dress? Auch.

Комментарий от Merylyan

Warriors, the only class that strips naked its foes before hacking/bashing/cutting them.

Комментарий от Maelwys

I'm trying to understand why Defensive Stance doesn't have access to this.

"Best defense is a good offense."

Комментарий от 660647

I'm trying to understand why Defensive Stance doesn't have access to this.

"Best defense is a good offense."

Tank Destroyer any1?

EDIT: Spelling

Комментарий от elitearthas

any tanks out there think it is a good idea to use this?
since it hits hard, makes target have 0 armour and can be used immediately after changing stance.

Комментарий от 660647

I guess not, even if tank does swim in rage during the fight, it is pretty pointless, as you simply could generate at least 4 times the threat you do w/ this move simply due to not being in def stance.

Комментарий от 620131

Lowered to 50% penetration against players, but remains 100% for PVE in patch 4.1
An overnerf in my opinion.

Комментарий от 469691

The difference between CS and ArP is CS doesn't seem to be cap limited, according to some beta testers. 100% ArP really only means a 100% reduction in a portion of a targets armor, which is actually less then the targets total armor. In other words, if you had 100% ArP, the target would still have some quantity of effective armor mitigating your attacks. With CS, it appears to ignore the total armor, meaning there is no residual armor mitigating your attacks during its uptime. So, if this is indeed true, its inaccurate to say 33% CS uptime is equal to 33% static ArP - its actually more valuable then that, depending on target level.

By Necronom on 10/10/2010 (Patch 3.3.5)

ArP will always have a diminishing effect.

when dr≤1/3(A≤C/2)，ARP=arp;
when dr>1/3(A>C/2)，ARP=arp/(dr*3).

DR=A*(1-arp/MAX(dr*3,1))/(A*(1-arp/MAX(dr*3,1))+C).

We calculated (in Pathch 3.3 when ArP still existed) when you had 100% ArP,there was always a 2.026% dr cap (or more,depanding sunder armor, faerie fire and boss level ) .

And CS is "to bypass armour",which is simply to set the target armour = 0.

This is the meaning of the difference mentiioned by Necronom.

Now I am very curious about this 100% to 70% nerf. This nerf would make CS work nearly the same way as Arp----------A*(1-sunder armor)*70%. (nearly: CS has no diminishing effect).

Need some tests to prove I guess.

Комментарий от 252897

Well, blizzard did what a lot of people have been waiting (or dreading) for 6 years: Balance a skill differently for pve and pvp with different effects. Whether this trend will continue or whether will it be just a PTR test remains to be seen, but at least I am excited that blizz finally gives in on the fact that some skills just have to be balanced differently for pve/pvp.

Комментарий от 340239

FOS RU DAH

Комментарий от WyvernVJ

Buffs and debuffs map (5.4.2)

Buffs

Stats
Effect: +5% Strength, Agility, and Intellect
Brought by: Any Друид (Знак дикой природы), any (), and any Паладин (Благословение королей).

Stamina
Effect: +10% Stamina
Brought by: Any Жрец (Слово силы: Стойкость), any Чернокнижник (), and any Воин (Командирский крик).

Attack Power
Effect: +10% melee and ranged attack power
Brought by: Any Рыцарь смерти (Зимний горн), any Охотник (Аура меткого выстрела), and any Воин (Боевой крик).

Spell Power
Effect: +10% spell power
Brought by: Any Маг (Чародейская гениальность/Чародейская гениальность Даларана), any Шаман (Тотемная ярость), and any Чернокнижник ().

Haste
Effect: +10% melee and ranged haste
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Рыцарь смертиs (Цепкие ледяные когти), any Разбойник (), and Enhancement Шаманs ().

Spell Haste
Effect: +5% spell haste
Brought by: Balance Друидs (Аура лунного совуха), Shadow Жрец (Облик Тьмы), and Elemental Шаманs (Клятва стихий).

Critical Strike
Effect: +5% ranged, melee, and spell critical chance
Brought by: Guardian and Feral Друидs (Вожак стаи), windwalker s () and any Маг (Чародейская гениальность/Чародейская гениальность Даларана).

Mastery
Effect: +3000 mastery
Brought by: Any Паладин (Благословение могущества), and any Шаман ().

Debuffs

Weakened Armor
Effect: -12% armor
Brought by: Any Друид (Волшебный огонь), any Разбойник (Ослабление доспеха), and any Воин (Раскол брони).

Physical Vulnerability
Effect: +4% physical damage taken
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Рыцарь смертиs (Ослабление костей and Разносчик черной чумы), Retribution Паладинs (), and Arms and Fury Воинs (Удар колосса).

Magic Vulnerability
Effect: +5% spell damage taken
Brought by: Any Разбойник (Мастер ядоварения), and any Чернокнижник (Проклятие стихий).

Weakened Blows
Effect: -10% physical damage done.
Brought by: Blood Рыцарь смертиs (Лихорадка), Feral and Guardian Друидs (Взбучка and ), Brewmaster s (), Protection or Retribution Паладинs (Молот праведника), any Шаман (Земной шок), any Чернокнижник (), and any Воин (Удар грома).

Slow Casting
Effect: -50% casting speed (-25% on players)
Brought by: Any Рыцарь смерти (Некротический удар), Arcane Магs (Замедление), any Разбойник (Дурманящий яд), and any Чернокнижник ().

Mortal Wounds
Effect: -25% healing received
Brought by: Arms or Fury Воинs (Смертельный удар and ), any Разбойник (Быстродействующий яд), any Охотник (Токсин черной вдовы), and Windwalker s ().

Note: Buffs and debuffs provided by pets, profession perks, items and any other NPC are left out on purpose.

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Удар колосса

Удар колосса

Ярость: 20	Дистанция ближнего боя

Мгновенное действие	Восстановление: 20 сек

Наносит цели 150% урона от оружия плюс 120 ед. урона, а также ослабляет защиту цели; в течение 6 sec ваши атаки игнорируют 100% ее брони. Процент игнорирования брони уменьшается, если цель – другой игрок.

Символ удара колосса
Накладывает на цель эффект "Раскол брони"

Аура

Удар колосса

Защита цели ослаблена, что позволяет воину игнорировать 100% брони.
Осталось: 6 сек.

Свойства заклинания

Длительность

6 сек.

Школа

Физический урон

Механика

нет

Тип рассеивания

нет

Категория ГКД

Обычный

Стоимость

Ярость: 20

Радиус действия

5 метров (Combat)

Время прочтения

Мгновенное действие

Восстановление

20 сек.

ГКД

1.5 сек.

Форма

Боевая стойка, Стойка берсерка

Эффект #1

Normalized Weapon Damage
Значение: 121
PvP-мультипликатор: 1

Эффект #2

Apply Aura: Ignore Armor %
Значение: 101%
PvP-мультипликатор: 1

Эффект #3

Weapon Damage - %
Значение: 151
PvP-мультипликатор: 1

Метки

способность
Не может быть использовано в облике друида
[Do Not Sheath]
[Initiates Combat (Enabled Auto-Attack)]
[Discount Power On Miss]
[DoT Stacking Rule]
Необходимо оружие для правой руки
[Aura Points On Client]

Удар колосса

Аура

Свойства заклинания

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