Возможно, есть объяснение, но этот предмет вообще пропал из лута или награды после первых недель старта дополнения. Попадаются предметы сразу с активацией на очки знаний, но этот камень категорически не появлялся уже три недели подряд.
В английских коментах аналогичное негодование. С камнем явно что-то сделали.

Комментарий от MrNo

То что сдается Кхадин после выполнения компании хотя бы на одном персонаже до Лазурного простора и прохождения цепочки с задания Работа по призванию уже сказали. С 10.1 на твинках выполнять В Лазурный Простор больше не обязательно: достаточно цепочки на профессию. Мало того, из сумок за недельное задание даже без цепочки профессиональной твинкам пару раз осколок выпадал после выхода Запретного края.
Основные источники - редкие существа (особенно в Запретном краю и Пещере) и объекты вроде Потревоженная почва, сундуков и сумок. К сожалению, из самого массового из таких объектов Клыкаррские рыболовные снасти мне ни разу не выпадал. По крайней мере, копая почву для прокачки репутации с экспедицией, выпадало и твинкам, и основному персонажу не часто, но на сотню вскрытых 1-2 шарика получалось. По наблюдениям сложилось впечатление, что пока падают предметы на конкретную профессию эти "шарики" не выпадут. Но это может быть обманчиво из-за их чрезвычайной редкости в выпадении, а привязанные к профессии предметы в начале недели валятся практически отовсюду.
Сумки за недельные задания, репутацию и т.п. тоже могут выдать осколок, но в сравнении с количеством рарников по миру - это малый шанс и их можно рассматривать лишь как приятный бонус.

Комментарий от Isidro

Сдача Драконий осколок знания становится доступной после квеста Мастер своего ремесла.
Координаты квеста:
/way 71.76, 81.19

If you wanna unlock these on an alt, literally all you have to do is finishing the "To the Azure Span" quest starting in Forkriver Crossing (It should be displayed with a big exclamation mark on your map). After that, you should be able to get back to Forkriver Crossing and start the "That's my Specialty" quest, which ultimately unlocks the Dragon Shards of Knowledge.

Комментарий от RazorB1adeHNT

One of my guildies had Azure Span compain completed and "That's My Specialty" quest was not available
What we end up doing is:
I logged in on a toon who did not did "Into the Azure Span" quest
We used quest synchronisation feature
Accept "Into the Azure Span" quest
Completed "Into the Azure Span" quest
Turn back to Forkriver Crossing
And did "That's My Specialty" quest chain together

Комментарий от Andrikats

The only quest you need to do beforehand is To the Azure Span which starts from Forkriver Crossing in Ohn'ahran Plains (southeast). Then you can pick up the quest That's my Specialty from Forkriver Crossing and complete the short questline that leads up to Khadin.

Комментарий от DoomDIDamn

I've just got it from the purple bag you get for completing the Clan Aylaag event (when they change their position on the map). Wonder if the chance it high there, since you can do just about 2 of them per week.
Also got 2 of them in one day from M+ chest.
Judging by the comments here though, it appears to be a simple rare world drop. Play the game, do content and.... hope?

Комментарий от semismurf

Saw one of these drop from the last boss of a Mythic+ Azure Vaults. I believe they are attainable there as well just very rare. I have not seen once on my main or my alt since i turned in the ones from the quest.

Комментарий от Bodomi

Got one from a Mythic+ dungeon.

Комментарий от Mattsta

Got one of these from the daily loot of the mini-rare Bisquius that spawns at the end of the Community Feast event.

Комментарий от eleakim

If you're trying to get the passive Мудрость Кхадин to find Драконий осколок знания as a rare drop from all kind of content and Мигель Брайт is not offering you the quest that starts this chain i think i've found a possible solution:

After completing the entire Ohn'ahran Planes campaign i talked to Меритра , she finally gave me the quest В небеса (which is tecnically a prerequisite for В Лазурный Простор, this sent me back to Forkriver Crossing, where Miguel Bright finally gave me the quest Работа по призванию to start with these Драконий осколок знания.

Комментарий от LiriusMagi

For as rare as this is and considering it's an epic item, the fact its only worth 1 point is disappointing. Make it like at least 5, come on. Even 3 would be better.

Комментарий от Henceforth

I definitely didn't get a single Драконий осколок знания on my main this week, and I have opened more than 400 Dirt+packs.
I logged on my alt, and I've got this on the very first dirt I opened.

Blizzard should clarify how the drop works and why it is capped like this and WHY it wouldn't drop at all.

EDIT: I'm getting one every two weeks or so.
It saddens me that people were able to "benefit" from the pre-hotfix drop of Драконий осколок знания and able to get like 300 knowledge points and it will take like the whole expansion for us to get that normally.

Комментарий от k4ne

Managed to grab 2 on my main very quickly the first week i started farming my knowledge for professions but now i am barely able to get 1 per week even if i farm everything i see during my donjon queue time. Is there some kind of hidden buff for fresh 70 character ?

Комментарий от colda242

Its limited how many knowledge points you can get from it? Getting zero points on alchemy from this and didnt find an answer for this. Thanks

Комментарий от huldu

I've been gathering random treasures(packs) for over a week now just to get some actual "numbers". I've probably spent over 50+~ hours by now JUST gathering packs across the world. I've got *1* single Dragon Shard of Knowledge through this. What I'm suspecting is that there is some sort of a hidden cooldown or cap on how many you can get per week, *regardless* of what you do.

It's hard to trust the numbers because if people haven't done the quest chain then they won't get any at all. This is what makes it very tricky to try estimate the chance of getting these. I'm sure there are better ways to get these like killing rares or whatever, but this week I've only got 1(from a pack) and I've killed a lot of rares too. It just baffles me.

Комментарий от Lavisaur

Haven't seen a single drop in two weeks and today I get two within an hour from expedition satchels

Комментарий от Diamir

I confirm you can get more than 1 per day. What I couldn't confirm is if you can have more than 1 in your bags

Комментарий от pinatafreak

Considering how rare these seem to be, it makes no sense that they give just one measly profession knowledge.
I haven't seen one in weeks.

It should give at least three. One knowledge is barely worth the trip to the NPC.

Комментарий от Heroicveni

I thought the max was x2 per week until I got x4 in one week. However I've had 0 drops since and I raid/m+ a lot; side note: feels like there are much fewer expedition packs lately as well

Комментарий от drpimento

for skinning and LW, you can turn in the shards to Khadin at 51.8, 33.03 Ohn'ahran Plains.

Комментарий от Mypciscraze

Hi all

I present You Quest Chain Наверстываем! but with 8 quests not 6. That Quest will unlock for You Мудрость Кхадин. Making Quests You will get reputation for Консорциум ремесленников – филиал на Драконьих островах, to get to Консорциум ремесленников – филиал на Драконьих островах Quartermaster see Рабул /way #2112 35.51 58.98 Rabul/

See My Video if need it - https://youtu.be/M9fHewGixeU

Quest chain:

1. Курьер - Start From Гефеста /way #2022 57.93 68.22 Haephesta/ You need to see Томас Мак-Брайт /way #2022 60.22 72.16
2. Подарок для Мигеля - First speak with quest giver, then Fly /way #2022 68.79 64.48, and slay Fire elementals to loot 3 Пламенный дух.
3. Особый напиток - Open any Crafting profession and make Подарок для Мигеля. Then Speak with quest giver and take gift to Мигель Брайт.
4A. Профессиональная экипировка - Speak with Мара Мощь Древа /way #2022 61.43 70.14 Mahra Treebender/ ( I pick 1-4-2-7-1 ) then wait 10 sec to finish quest.
4B. Работа по призванию - Speak with quest giver ( I pick 1-4-2 ) if you cant speak with him just moveout from him and back can be buged. When You finish This Quest Чудеса света will up.
6. Чудеса света - Speak with Томас Мак-Брайт /way #2022 60.22 72.16, Then Fly to /way #2023 46.13 59.90, and press on Странное гнездо then wait few sec to finish quest. YOu will get Драконий осколок знания and Обрывок древней мудрости драконов.
7. Мастер своего ремесла - Speak with Кхадин /way #2023 52.11 33.53 cave enter Khadin/
8. Достойная охота - Slay Горизонт walking around /way #2023 50.18 36.67 Thousandmile

After This Story line You will get Мудрость Кхадин and 3 Драконий осколок знания. Драконий осколок знания You can exchange at Кхадин /way #2023 52.11 33.53 cave enter Khadin/ You will get 50 Рвение мастера and 1 Dragon Isles ( depending on the profession ) Knowledge and 50 rep. for Консорциум ремесленников – филиал на Драконьих островах.

Hope That Help YOu :)

Комментарий от fleezy

1 dropped from Тикарр Морозный Коготь for me today.

Комментарий от Krysteen

Wowhead,this:

in fact, you can't even collect these

is not correct. I have not completed the quest on any of my characters, and I have received two of these Dragon Shards to date on a character I am levelling. Either your original post was made during the PTR when perhaps that was the case, or it was changed at some time since.

It is true I cant hand them in yet, but it appears I can certainly get them.

Комментарий от TigonIII

I thought these were used by Blizz as a catch-up mechanic, or am I wrong about that, since nobody else has mentioned this?

Have anyone levelled an alt several weeks into the expansion, and have you noticed an increased drop rate of these, as you are literally missing several weeks worth of weekly quests which gives regular knowledge?

Комментарий от Madness2112

Been able to turn these in the entire xpac on my alts. Since 10.0.5 two of my alts no longer have turn in options (alchemy/herbalism and enchanting/mining). All my other toons can turn in fine. Any ideas?

Комментарий от DirtGod

I've been farming these all day every day for the last couple of months or so and have just maxed out the entire engineering profession, so they are not capped, but are just very rare

see:
https://www.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/10u7i6e/i_100_maxed_out_the_entire_engineering_profession/

Комментарий от Nereide

I don't understand why the cave to turn these in is not marked on the map. I've to go back to this page everytime I have a few in my bags. It's just annoying

Комментарий от tgranger85

Despite having a sell price of 200g, you cannot vendor this item.

Комментарий от Raincloud

The right location is /way #2023 52.11 33.53 Cave Entrance for Khadin in Ohn'ahran Plains

Комментарий от Wowvocate

There are two main methods to 'farm' this. One is treasures, the other rares. Treasures (dirt, chests, packs etc) are sporadic, a low drop rate but are essentially infinitely farmable. Rares are one a day but the drop chance is reasonably higher. Personally, by doing 'sweeps' of the rares in the following order: Tyrhold, Primalist Future, Imbu, Brackenhide, Nokudon Hold and Obsidian Citadel, I generally get about 10-20 a week. Mileage will vary, of course.

Комментарий от Razzabass

For those who can't figure out why they can't turn them yet but can talk to the NPC make sure to complete The Wonders of the World first and it will unlock the ability to turn them in.

The script for whether it is completed is

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(67298))

It requires killing a mob that drops Esoteric Dragon Shard of Knowledge which you turn into Khadin in the cave at

/way #2023 51.78 33.02 Khadin Artisan Master

Then you can turn in Dragon Shard's of Knowledge to him from there on out.

:)

Комментарий от Trippygg

I was able to unlock this on an alt simply by selecting the skip dialog on this NPC. Гефеста

Комментарий от Khatun

They did... something... to the drop rate. Idk what. But I used to get them until I got a crafting profession. Now I get maybe 1 or 2 a week. Very odd

Комментарий от tooltip

Although Драконий осколок знания had the "Crafting Reagent" removed from the tooltip, Blizzard must have forgotten to remove an internal flag—I can still store this item in the reagent-only bag.

Комментарий от Diapergenie

Pretty reliable way to farm them now seems to be Dawn of the Infinite heroic via group finder as there is no lockout. I net about 2 shards per hour by queueing with 445 tank. I'd say it's around 0.75 shards per run. Your results may vary depending on how long you have to sit in queue and how fast you can clear it.

Комментарий от Paperclips

The merchant doesn't want that item.

Edit:
Item has a vendor price of 200 gold, but vendors don't want it.

Комментарий от Khatun

Used to be able to get them somewhat reliably from a round of treasure hunting. Haven't seen one in days, though. Killed about 10 rares, opened 15 Expedition treasures, and 45 buried treasures and got 0 (today)

Комментарий от Nesthion

Wish these were account bound. Can't sell them to a vendor and can't trade them. My main's professions are 100% maxed out so no use for them.

Комментарий от Calandron

Can confirm as of 1/14/2024 that these drop very frequently in Dawn of the Infinite: Murozond's Rise Heroic. Completed 8 times, and have recieved 8 so far.

Комментарий от chaiquan

should make it account bound

Комментарий от Logan500

Why does it say vendor 200 gold if no vendor buys it for money? Is it worthless?

Комментарий от Qoko

Some limited mileage in 10.2.5 on a newly dinged 70 on which I'm trying to max out Potions:

Dawn heroic:36-40 bosses: 3
Dreamsurge rares: ~10 kills (not sure if these count if repeated): 1
Forbidden Reach rares: ~40 kills (not sure if these count if repeated): 0
Treasures: across Reach and regular treasures (~200): 1

This was over the course of about ten hours, so about 0.5/hr... obviously very low sample sizes, but the drop rates are not great. Pretty sure the intention is that these aren't farmable. I'd advise you make a clear cut choice what to get with a new profession (you get about 100 Knowledge from one-time sources) and get the rest by weeklies. Fall is about 12 minutes per run, mileage varies. Farm at you own risk, I'd advise queuing for the dungeon (Fall is definitely faster) whilst doing rounds on the Reach or in the Dreamsurge area.

Комментарий от Tohuvabohu

Dear Blizzard,

At this point in the expansion, these should be account bound. I know you spouted off some rhetoric early on about you wanted to be more alt friendly, yet you really screwed the pooch when it came to alts and professions. Let's make these account bound, and perhaps add in a few more catch-ups for professions.

Sincerely,

Everyone who plays this game.

Комментарий от Dragonseeker

This is not fun, i have 40 in bag and cant sell them to vendor........

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